paintball

  Join pbreview.com  |  Log In  
pbReview.com - Paintball Reviews and Paintball Fields

Search:

  
Home     |      Paintball Articles     |      Paintball Videos     |     Paintball Gear     |     Paintball Fields     |     Paintball Stores     |     Hot Deals     |     Paintball Forums     |     Chat
pbReview.com / Comments on foughtwolf's Review / Comments on foughtwolf's Review / Comments on foughtwolf's Review / Comments on foughtwolf's Review / Comments on foughtwolf's Review

Comments on foughtwolf's Review

Jump to the Comments  |  Post a Comment  |  Dispute this Review  |  Return to the Reviews

foughtwolf Saturday, June 12th, 2010
The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion below.
Period of
Product Use:
Only tested5 of 29 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
More than 5 years
Similar
Products Used:
This is my first venture into the .50 calibre(And my last.)
Marker Setup: Punishers built Unibody Phantom.

Rainmaker with many modifications(Punishers frame adaptor, Palmers LPR, UTB, Lapco Autospirit, Freeflow 90* frame.)

Nelspot Challenger II.

2003 Viking(Blind.)

K-framed PGP2.

PGP.
Recommended
Upgrades:
Buy it in a six pack, one wont last a day of play.
Strengths: Its strengths include, frankly, very little. More about this later on.
Weaknesses: Terrible build quality, More on this later.
Review: When I think Kingman, I generally thing low-end entry level markers, its what they have always done in a consistent and good manor. This Mr4, as it is called, is a terrible excuse for a marker. When I saw how the bolt is also the cocking knob, I had hope, as the old spyders used this setup, and was hoping maybe the build quality had returned, but I was wrong.

Build quality(Or lack thereof.): First Looks.
Under a mediocre milsim stlye coating, you will find a purebred piece of scat not word the name Kingman. Anywhere it was possible, its injection molded, where its not, it looks more like cast metal than anything. The valve stem looks very weak, and the cupseal was begining to deform after a single 200 round hopper.(200 .50 cal paintballs that is.) The hammer on this one was not finished, and had a number of burs down in the oring groove, which in turn shredded orings very quickly.

Test firing the Mr4:
After a look into this marker, we decided it was time to shoot it. Keep in mind that this was a brand new MR4, never used, just unboxed earlier that day. Topping off a 13ci tank for use with this(To test some of the mythical better efficiency theories.) we ventured out behind the shop with 200 rounds of Premium grade .50. I was not shocked to see this had zero accuracy after about 30 feet of travel downrange upon firing, I was, however, surprised when I saw that is velocity was a hair over 370 FPS. Knowing high FPS can create erratic paint flight, we chronoed it down to a usable 300. This took a while because of major fluctuations in the FPS, sometimes 30-50 FPS variances. Eventually we had it working, at 300 FPS, we averaged a flight distance of about 1/2 to 3/4 that of a .68 caliber marker at the same FPS, again, I was not surprised. What really surpirsed me was that by the end of the test, the cocking knob had bent itself forward, because when the marker recocked, it slammed into the back of the body from overpressure in the valve. But by this time the test had ended thanks to the cupseal deforming so far it leaked badly.

The Aftermath:
Returning inside, we degassed and took the paint out of the marker, cleaned the breach of gobs of paint(Yes, it chopped a number of times.) and started taking it apart. It took a while to get the bent cocking knob out, and then the rest of the dis-assembly wasnt to hard. I was shocked to find, after 200 shots, that the hammer had a nice amount of wear on it, and the sear was already dulled, this may have been the way it came, I do not know, I didnt check the sear before firing. The valve cupseal was trashed, Ive never seen something like this from a brand new marker.
Conclusion: Steer clear of this marker, Steer clear of .50 caliber. The smoke Milsim GI tried to blow up everyone's ass is utterly and entirely false. If you have a brain in your head you will not fall for it.
Rating:
3 out of 10
 

Review Comments
Splatzballz99 Saturday, June 12th, 2010 | 12:20 pm PST
i think you meant the stormer. The stormer is 50. cal, the mr4 is .68 cal. other than that, nice review.
   

foughtwolf Saturday, June 12th, 2010 | 9:03 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by Splatzballz99
i think you meant the stormer. The stormer is 50. cal, the mr4 is .68 cal. other than that, nice review.

Oh my goodness, you are correct, thank you for pointing this out.
   

Daniel :) Thursday, June 17th, 2010 | 12:38 pm PST
I added the Stormer as a product. Could you delete this review and put the info on the stormer?
   

JBemus Thursday, June 17th, 2010 | 4:38 pm PST
Dispute:
You used .50 cal? No wonder you got such bad results: ITS A .68 CAL MARKER. That's way up there as far as stupid mistakes go, compounded by flaming it on pbreview.
   

nb2paintball Friday, June 18th, 2010 | 5:32 am PST
quote:
Originally posted by JBemus
You used .50 cal? No wonder you got such bad results: ITS A .68 CAL MARKER. That's way up there as far as stupid mistakes go, compounded by flaming it on pbreview.
   

nb2paintball Friday, June 18th, 2010 | 5:34 am PST
JBemus is exactly right. so you should've wrote your review on spyder's only .50 cal gun, the stormer.
Last edited on Saturday, June 19th, 2010 at 2:43 pm PST
   

DanM708 Friday, September 17th, 2010 | 8:07 pm PST
Dispute:
The spyder mr4 is a .68 caliber marker not a .50 cal. foughtwolf must be talking about the spyder stormer which is a .50 cal marker.
   

telnaur Monday, September 27th, 2010 | 7:28 am PST
Dispute:
I do not believe his reviews are accurate due to the fact that the Spyder Mr4 is not a .50 caliber marker and he keeps referring to using .50 cal paint.. if this is the case, he would by all means run into trouble continually--though this would not accurately reflect the quality of the gun. Other than that, from the sounds of it, he used it way too far on igh velocity--and then complained the equipment did not function well... using it at such high velocity for more than just a shot or two (to adjust) will most definitely cause some damage and thus--performance issues with the gun.

Good detail he provided but not exactly how the product should be represented to someone if they take care of it properly (anyone can damage or misuse (putting .50 cal paint in a .68 cal marker) a marker and it will NOT perform properly ;) )

   

Post a Comment
Please log in to your account to post a comment.

Not a member yet? Sign up now for free!

Return to the Reviews

Help / FAQ  |  Contact Us  |  About Us  |  Advertising Info  |  Link to Us  |  Privacy Policy  |  Terms of Use
Top

Paintball Review

Copyright © 2000-2014 Hillclimb Media