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JiuJitsu500 Wednesday, January 19th, 2011
Period of
Product Use:
Less than a month2 of 2 people found this review helpful.

More than 5 years
Products Used:
Older Spyders of all kinds (especially my Imagine), Nothing quite like this though.
Marker Setup: Custom ION - 14" SP Linear, Fasta, NitroDuck 68/45 w/Guerilla Reg, The only remaining stock part after 4 years or so is the breech, everything else is maxed upgraded.

Psycho Ballistics Superbolt - TechT Ifit w/ stock barrel, PMI 68/3000, Halo B Victory and other upgrades, Lots of small upgrades.

Back-up/Project marker '09 Spyder Pilot - LP Setup (320 psi @ 300 fps) w/CP Shorty Reg and Maddman Rocket Valve, Vlocity Jr w/Dynasty Kit, Geurilla Air, 12" J&J S2
Low Pressure Conversion since you didn't buy an electra (I like to tinker though, so just an opinion... but LP is always easier on the marker and paint, among a slew of other benefits)
Barrel later
Feed neck clamp (no need to replace the entire thing unless you like the super low-pro, but the screw just won't do for me)
Cosmetic as you choose, like a drop, etc...
Strengths: Cheap, reliable, eyes, Trigger (opinion), Accurate, price, looks (opinion)
Weaknesses: Feed neck clamp, For a little more, you can get an electra, Kick
Review: I got this for my girlfriend originally in a package deal online, but fell in love when I hooked it up to a machine at a local park to see if 25 bps was true, and took it from her. As it turns out, it hit over 20 without the eyes on, and with paint the Vlocity Jr became a prize of mine as well when it fired (on video) at 20 bps without any issues. However, it was HPA, I'm sure CO2 would cause a lot of trouble that fast. Since I can't shoot anywhere near that fast (unless you're ramping, neither can you), about half while actually playing.... we'll skip the crap and say it is DEFINATELY capable of 20 bps, not so sure about 25, but it held it's own. CO2 is fine, for the not-so-speedy casual shot, you won't have any issues.

So, it's fast. Very fast, beat out the ion in speed (semi).

Accuracy though, was nothing compared to the high-end EP and Cockers we had of course, but it's stock barrel did a very nice job. Hit a pumpkin with every ball at 20 meters or so at 10-12 bps. No need for a new barrel at the start, but it would never hurt. With my J&J S2, it kills...

The eyes worked flawlessly. No chops at all with decent paint (DXS basic training or better), ever. Not ONE, which shocked me because my Imagine with eyes still chopped from time to time. 3 or 4 cases later, not one.

For a beginning marker that's pretty upgradable and a very nice price tag, there is not one on the market that will do what this one can I believe. For the intermidiate player as well, I'd take this thing to you and beg you to outshoot it, just to watch the competition. It's a damn fine marker.

The PSP and Mil ramp crap is stupid, I hate ramping. It's around 12-13 bps (after reaching 6 or so) I think on PSP, and Mil is slower, 10 or so at 4 or 5 trigger pulls per second. Since I hate anything but semi unless it's legal on the field (haven't been to one that is except a pro field in California), I won't comment on it. It works though, very well. Just a little slow without a chip compared of course to higher. But if you like ramping, go ahead, this thing will take you on a long date and never give up.

I can't be harsh on it, Kingman is always a favorite of mine, regardless of my Primary weapon. I have a Low-Pressure '09 Pilot as my back-up without a doubt, and I won't change for a long time.
Conclusion: Buy this if you like upgrading your own stuff. Get an electra if not. Simply put, you're not going to find a better gun for under $140, period. With some mods/upgrades, this thing is still a spyder, but it will rip with the best of them. The kick will always be there in a blowback marker, but go LP and lighten the springs and it is hugely reduced.

GREAT marker
9 out of 10Last edited on Friday, April 15th, 2011 at 2:12 am PST

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