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KWGPaintVeins Wednesday, June 22nd, 2011
The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion below.
Period of
Product Use:
6 months0 of 1 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
3 years
Similar
Products Used:
Spyder Pilot ACS
Proto SLG
Any Tippman Marker
Sling shot
frying man
my hands
Mud
Marker Setup: Spyder Pilot ACS:
-Dye sticky
-low profile clamping feedneck
Proto SLG 09 Basic:
-CP Clamping Feedneck
-CP Sling Trigger
Dangerous Power G4:
-Proto 2 piece barrel w/ 12-14" tips
-No upgrades needed for G4 really :)
Recommended
Upgrades:
Every single thing needs to be upgraded
Strengths: Color kits are cool idea, but those cost money
Weaknesses: Trigger
Barrel
Body
EVERYTHING (See review)
Review: Okay so before you guys, and lovely ladies, who JUST got this gun today call me out for BS or anything like that, please take into consideration that I have been playing paintball for 3 and a half years tournament style, and 6+ overall in the woods and such along with tournament style. I have been tech-ing markers for about 2 and a half years and I have confidence that I know a thing or two about paintball guns and how they work.
That being said, onto the review:
This marker by no means was a "Piece of crud" that is a compliment to the gun relative to its performance and composition. This marker was another attempt for Smart Parts to milk the cow of the younger, financially and socially unaware children. Yes, I am implying that Smart Parts was TAKING ADVANTAGE of younger kids who are all to willing to place their trust in, what looks like experienced engineers and people, Smart Parts for there so called "experience" and "reliable products". This gun is the phallic of paintball. I have no idea where to start, so I will work my way from the top, down, from the outside, in:
The gun body: Cool idea, I guess, it seems that Proto did a better job with the SLG in utilizing composite polymer in the gun body. The body looks depressing and fake. When I touch it I often feel scared that it will crack under the pressure of my index finger. The feed neck or as I call it "The feeding apparatus of the Kraken" is an excuse for a feedneck because not only is it made from the cheap plastic that crumbles in your hands like sand stone, but it goes through O-rings like crazy because you need them to hold a loader in place. THIS GUN COST ME AND OTHERS NEARLY $300 AND THEY DIDN'T ADD A CLAMPING FEED NECK? (You know Dangerous Power sells the G4 for about the same as the Ion sold for, and it rips this gun to shreds.) The grip frame, which is made from the same polymer and cracks ever so easily. The trigger that they claim has magnet tension feels more like a chunk of wood was wedged in there (a weak plastic chunk of wood.) my trigger broke after the first day of play so now I get to one finger it. The stock ion regulator is big, bulky, and doesn't deliver any performance. My standard deviation (The amount the FPS increased or decreased at a certain setting in this instance) for reg consistency was +/- 25-28 fps, not a consistent reg at all. The ASA looks more like a European plug outlet and you need to be in the strong-man competition to take a tank off the stock asa. The guns barrel is not micro honed at all it's powder dusted and it's so terrible that the back end of the barrel bores out at a .688 (.688-.690 depending on what angle you measure it at). You don't get a consistent shot at all from this marker. The board is terrible and the cap is 17 balls per second! I mean seriously guys? 17? a Prime and odd number? most companies would cap in values of 5 (so 10 bps cap, 15 bps, 20 bps, 25 bps, etc. etc.) which means they either tested the solenoid to try and achieve 20 bps but it broke and 17 was the limit or they were so uninterested in the value of the gun that they hit two random numbers. The BOLT DOESN'T COME OUT THE BACK! You cannot access the bolt for maintenance without preforming exploratory surgery. on top of that the Solenoid coil is totally exposed when you open up the gun. To give you guys who don't know what that means and idea of what I mean, having the solenoid coil that exposed would be like having major arteries and heart ventricles in your body outside on your skin. No protection at all. If you MANAGE to achieve a steady stream of paint on this marker the shoot down is terrible. It sputters and gasps in pity of how much of a terrible marker it is. I can't really insult the bolt, because it's built like any other dump valve.
Conclusion: This concoction for a paintball marker is a monster. This is quite possibly the worst marker in paintball. It's worse than the blade (because the blade costs $10 and shoots like $10 and the ion costs $300 and shoots like $10) I would never recommend this marker to anyone. If you have $300 burning a hole in your pocket BUY AN SLG, PMR, OR G3/G4. Although my review seems sarcastic and rude it is because of my disbelief and anger that this thing was produced. I am beyond happy that Smart Parts in gone this was a terrible marker. DO NOT buy this marker, ignore all the reviews that say it is amazing, those kids signed on here and lied about their age so they could make a review about a gun they probably have never shot, but own because they got it the day before for Christmas. This is a terrible marker. The reason I am giving it a 2 is because you still got a gun (although air would have performed better) and because there some upgrades available to make it perform at about the level of a stock Spyder.
Rating:
2 out of 10
 

Review Comments
JiuJitsu500 Thursday, June 23rd, 2011 | 2:46 am PST
Dispute:
The original post is in quotes, my words are in between the hyphens... Let me say though, that no, I do not believe the ion is the marker the gods use, but it is by NO means a piece of nether matter.

"Okay so before you guys, and lovely ladies, who JUST got this gun today call me out for BS or anything like that, please take into consideration that I have been playing paintball for 3 and a half years tournament style, and 6+ overall in the woods and such along with tournament style. I have been tech-ing markers for about 2 and a half years and I have confidence that I know a thing or two about paintball guns and how they work."

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Well good for you, I have even more, in every area you named and then some, the tech and test part by a LONG shot. As well electronic knowledge out the ying-yang, have a Droid X, been to Iraq for 39 months before I was 25, and own a Jeep. My point, who cares? It wasn't very relevant or necessary to say ANY of that, nor what you did later to the same effect. By the way, no one just buys an ion anymore, there are much better markers out there for the same price like you said, so I wonder if you are the one who JUST got your 5 year-old ion. Doubtful, of course.
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"That being said, onto the review:
This marker by no means was a "Piece of crud" that is a compliment to the gun relative to its performance and composition. This marker was another attempt for Smart Parts to milk the cow of the younger, financially and socially unaware children. Yes, I am implying that Smart Parts was TAKING ADVANTAGE of younger kids who are all to willing to place their trust in, what looks like experienced engineers and people, Smart Parts for there so called "experience" and "reliable products". This gun is the phallic of paintball. I have no idea where to start, so I will work my way from the top, down, from the outside, in:"
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Who wouldn't take advantage of it? Dye does every single time they come out with something "so much better," and so does everyone. The demographic they go for are the people who spend that much money, or pros, not your average american teen who doesn't have $1,200 to drop on the newest DM or Ego, or even $600 on the better Protos. When this came out, there was NOTHING compared to it for the price. Everything at the high end was much better, of course, but for a couple hundred bucks? You must be crazy to truly think that, or are drunk and yours just shot down and you're angry at a company now called (or owned by) G.O.G. Still, it's a bad business practice, NOT a review of the product. Review Smart Parts, not the Ion. Reliable? I've changed ONE internal o-ring and two on the bolt since 2007 on my ion... just saying. Maybe I got a good one, but it's rare for a well- maintained spool-valve marker at all to just crash. My DM5 is still going strong too, but I've replaced a LOT more on that in only the past year.
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"The gun body: Cool idea, I guess, it seems that Proto did a better job with the SLG in utilizing composite polymer in the gun body. The body looks depressing and fake. When I touch it I often feel scared that it will crack under the pressure of my index finger."

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Agreed for the most part, but the original one I got years ago, after literally hundreds of hours actually playing, is still fully intact. As are every single ion I've ever played with that still had that body, all these years and months later. Other than that, no dispute here. You shouldn't review personal aesthetic flavor.
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"The feed neck or as I call it "The feeding apparatus of the Kraken" is an excuse for a feedneck because not only is it made from the cheap plastic that crumbles in your hands like sand stone, but it goes through O-rings like crazy because you need them to hold a loader in place. THIS GUN COST ME AND OTHERS NEARLY $300 AND THEY DIDN'T ADD A CLAMPING FEED NECK? (You know Dangerous Power sells the G4 for about the same as the Ion sold for, and it rips this gun to shreds.)"

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Technology, as you must know with all your experience, allows for massive drops in price for a better product as it improves, true? Hell yes. My cell phone 4 years ago (LG chocolate) if sold now, would cost about $20, maybe less. Back then, a couple hundred. For a couple hundred now, I can get just about any phone I want to rip my LG to shreds. I agree whole-heartedly about the feedneck though. Pure piece of stupid design, but not too many cheaper markers had clamping feednecks standard in those days so I think it's worthless to argue this now, we've all beaten that dead horse. A lot.
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"The stock ion regulator is big, bulky, and doesn't deliver any performance. My standard deviation (The amount the FPS increased or decreased at a certain setting in this instance) for reg consistency was +/- 25-28 fps, not a consistent reg at all."

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Also incorrect, I don't know what kind you got, but no one really has that problem unless yours was old and not maintained. I switched out my hyper-2 on an old DM5 for this reg, it's a damn fine reg, but it is big and bulky. Little girl hands maybe? Not speculating, but I've not ONCE had a problem with any stock ion reg. It's not the best, but it does a damn good job unless, like I said, it's neglected. Just like anything else. I bet no one can remember their first shots on a new ion, at least not the chrono and consistency, it's 2011 man, that thing is old!
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"The board is terrible and the cap is 17 balls per second! I mean seriously guys? 17? a Prime and odd number? most companies would cap in values of 5 (so 10 bps cap, 15 bps, 20 bps, 25 bps, etc. etc.) which means they either tested the solenoid to try and achieve 20 bps but it broke and 17 was the limit or they were so uninterested in the value of the gun that they hit two random numbers."

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Can you shoot that fast? No. Can I? No. Even the pros don't without ramping. Don't complain because it's not uncapped, or doesn't shoot 30bps, because if you are, you obviously don't play the game you played for so long very well. I play great with my mechanical 'cocker (5 or 6 bps maybe), and play great with my ion, and with my DM5, 8, and 10, Alien, Ego '09, and my spyder even. If you suck you suck, you don't need anything higher than 17, or even 15. it's hard to find someone who can shoot 15 bps, I can, barely, but while playing it's a lot lower. I've shot machine guns at 1200 rpm, exactly 20 rounds per second, and NO, you can't shoot in semi that fast. A 17 bps cap is fine. That's a personal preference, not something to criticize unless the cap is lower than the tournament standards, which I think now is 13 in some circuits unless I heard wrong.
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"on top of that the Solenoid coil is totally exposed when you open up the gun. To give you guys who don't know what that means and idea of what I mean, having the solenoid coil that exposed would be like having major arteries and heart ventricles in your body outside on your skin. No protection at all."

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The coil does not matter. Paint has almost no salinity I believe, which would allow the water in the paint to carry current if you somehow got some on the actual coil. It doesn't matter that they are exposed, I've never met anyone who had a problem with the 'noid blowing because it was exposed. I have had paint in my electronics before and have never had a problem, only with water. The point though, is that no marker seals off the electronics, and it hasn't been a big deal for anyone I don't think.
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If you MANAGE to achieve a steady stream of paint on this marker the shoot down is terrible. It sputters and gasps in pity of how much of a terrible marker it is. I can't really insult the bolt, because it's built like any other dump valve.

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And this is where it ends, before the conclusion. I dispute this entire article because I'm not sure if you got this gun yesterday "in the box brand new" and expected it to work right... or what happened, but in all reality, I think it was immature to post a lot of what you did and to even write the review in the first place. The ion has stood up to great things, and with as much as it costs to get a DM9 or 10 you can make this thing act like one, but for the price it was a damn fine machine. Nowadays no way, but in the paintball prime-time a few years back, all day and all night. It isn't and wasn't the best, but for the same price now, naturally you can get a much, much better marker.

Let me add.... to anyone who reads this, he's right.... it's far from amazing. But, it's no 2/10, based purely on what was posted.
Last edited on Wednesday, June 22nd, 2011 at 8:13 pm PST
   

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