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Unregistered User Wednesday, March 20th, 2002
Period of
Product Use:
Only tested29 of 30 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
More than 5 years
Similar
Products Used:
Typhoon ('96), Blazer ('98), Palmer Cocker ('00).
These are all Palmer products and I've noticed that the trigger feel gets smoother and nicer with the newer models. The Blazer tested here is no exception - it's trigger is the nicest of all the Palmer markers I've tried.
Marker Setup: Matrix (LED w/ pushbutton) with AA Messiah @ sub-200psi input. Trinity reg, High Efficiency (Red & Blue) bolt kit. AA Armageddon 68ci 4500psi, no drop forward, set at 800psi.
Palmer Cocker same, except AA Vigilante @ 325psi input.

Lapco, Custom Products and DYE aluminum barrels of various bore sizes. 12V Revies w/X-boards and 6-arm paddles.
Recommended
Upgrades:
Get the 45 grip frame (either single or dual shoe, whatever you prefer). It makes the Blazer feel really solid and the setup is SO nice for the trigger you don't need the ProTouch option. For an extra $65(single) or $85 (dual) it's money well spent.

Get the 12" barrel vented (reduce noise & turbulence) & match-honed (optimize accuracy). If you can live without the nickel plating, having a bare brass barrel gives the gun a funky, old school look.

Get a Stabilizer with the gun, or buy an Air America Vigilante or Black Ice as an aftermarket reg. The Blazer works great at around 500 to 600psi.

Don't bother with the LP/HV valve. The Blazer is an awesome medium pressure gun. With medium pressures, you can pretty well eliminate having to change your barrels for paint matching purposes.
Strengths: THE TRIGGER with the 45 GRIP FRAME!

I needed to put that in caps. The Blazers have this stigma that the trigger pull on them is heavy and stiff. That may have been true on older models (comparing an older 1998 Blazer with dual trigger to this 2002 Blazer dual trigger, the old '98 is certainly heavier and longer in trigger pull). But if you order a Blazer with the 45 grip frame, the trigger is, in a word, INCREDIBLE.

The pull is very, very short. Measured movement in the center of the upper finger groove is a stunning 1mm. This is incredibly short for a mechanical-only trigger. Even the bottom sweep of the dual shoe is still a short 3.75mm. That's well under a stock Cocker's trigger pull, and you'll find even some high priced custom Cockers with trigger pulls of 4mm.

I would characterize the feel of the return spring as "springy". I wouldn't call it soft or mushy, and it's certainly not hard. If I had to compare it another recent marker I've used, the SFL, I would say it's a bit softer than the SFL. The SFL I would call "snappy". Sorry I can't be more precise about this, but I don't have a way to measure the actual pull in lbs.

Fast strings of rapid fire are easy with this trigger. It can be fired as fast as any custom, high end Cocker.

The bottom line is, the Blazer with the 45 grip and trigger assembly option, has a very smooth, short trigger that is not heavy. So forget about the old stereotype of the Blazer having a heavy, unwieldy trigger. Yet, because it's a Palmer, this is not some unreliable trigger that's been pushed past the edge of reliability. It's like the three previous Palmers I mention above - it's built with the same dependability as those markers. All three of the older Palmer markers I've used have NEVER required re-timing, even the 6 year old Typhoon.

For the extra $65 to $85, get the 45 grip frame option. The 45 grip frame improves the trigger pull so much, Palmer's doesn't even offer a ProTouch trigger job option for it. The improvement comes with the price of the grip frame (and you're still under $500 for a top notch gun).

Very light in weight. Very short in length. Doesn't extend as far back as a Cocker, so it's less likely to hit your lens or mask.

This Blazer came with a Stabilizer. Good choice for an in-line reg. The Stab adds about $95 to the price. If that's too much for your budget, an Air America Vigilante, which is priced less, will work just as well. An in-line reg will allow you to reduce the input pressure to around 500 to 600psi, which is the optimum working pressure for the Blazer with its regular valving.

If you must have the Low Pressure/High Volume valve option, it will add more cost to the gun and it won't reduce the pressure that much (goes under 400psi or so). If you really want an ultra low pressure gun, then buy a Palmer Cocker (300 to 350psi), an AKA marker or a Matrix (around 200psi) instead. The Blazer is really at its best as a medium pressure marker.

By leaving the Blazer with its regular valve, you'll have superior range and eliminate the need to change your barrels to try and attempt to match the barrel to the paint. Medium pressure guns are much less sensitive to bore-to-paint match. The Blazer's barrel, which features the famous Palmer elliptical design (tight at breech end, large in the mid-bore, tight again at the muzzle), will shoot almost any size paint, esp. when combined with medium pressure. The barrel also features three indentations or Wedgits at the breech end, which will prevent rollout of small paint.

The only reason to change barrels is if you want a shorter or longer barrel.

Closed bolt accuracy. Once again, we're talking Autococker class here. Snap shooting is a breeze.

Quick release bolt with a pin that doesn't have to be removed (woo-hoo!). Quality Palmer parts which are built inside the body. The famous Palmer Rock allows absolute minimum pressure to the cycling of the bolt, which helps to reduce paint chop. Quality build.

Can work well on CO2 or HPA. If you don't fire an entire hopper's worth of paint, CO2 will work just fine. if you like chucking a lot of paint, then HPA will work great on the Blazer too, on both the regular as well as the LP/HV valves.

Very reasonable price for a marker that is easily as good as any top, pneumatic marker. Even if you add the 45 grip frame, in-line reg and barrel options (vents, match honing), you still have a competitively priced marker.
Weaknesses: I took this marker to a field where the staff are Matrix and Cocker fans. These guys are used to $1000+ markers. The shop owner (who uses Matrices & Cockers) was so impressed he wanted to buy the Blazer. 3 out of the 4 people who shot the Blazer did so perfectly with no time needed to adapt to the trigger.

The 4th person, however, managed to chop a ball. He's used to using a Matrix and finds he chops on most pneumatic guns. It's possible to short stroke the Blazer, just as it's possible to do so on any Cocker. So players who are used to electro's may need time to adapt to it.

If you want to do a lot of upgrades to your gun, the Blazer isn't the gun for you. Almost all the aftermarket products are made by Palmer anyway. If you look at their option menu for the Blazer, there's actually plenty of choice. But compared to all the accessories available for a Cocker, it's a small list.

If you believe in ultra low pressure markers, the Blazer is not your gun. To me, this is a non-issue. If a gun is accurate at ultra low pressure (like my Matrix), that's fine. If a gun is accurate at medium pressure (like this Blazer) that's fine too. But if you must have ultra low pressure, then get a Palmer Cocker instead, or any of the various other manufacturers' markers that are designed specifically for low pressure.
Conclusion: GREAT trigger feel with the 45 grip frame. Don't believe in the old myth that Blazers have a stiff trigger pull. Blazers today have a short, smooth and springy trigger that's a pleasure to use. Easily a match for any high end Cocker that you can think of.

Use an in-line reg (either the Palmer Stabilizer or an aftermarket reg like the AA Vigilante). The Blazer likes medium pressure (500 to 600psi) best.

Accurate and great for snapshooting. Great parts. Quality build. Can go either CO2 or HPA with no mods. Can withstand severe tournament use.

May take some getting used to if you use an electro. Low upgrade path.

Fantastic value, even with the 45 grip frame upgrade (HIGHLY recommended) and barrel options. The Blazer is a best buy.
Rating:
10 out of 10
 

Review Comments
fingerj333 Sunday, November 21st, 2004 | 3:19 pm PST
it says in the instructions to oil the bolt o rings the pneumatics and runs some oil in the bottom reciver.My question is when it say pneumatics what does it mean?the ram? or the valve?
   

fingerj333 Sunday, November 21st, 2004 | 3:20 pm PST
which is more accurate a blazer or autococker
   

toothpastedog Monday, March 14th, 2005 | 6:42 am PST
that is mostly up to what barrel you use, but since the cocker and the blazer use almost exactly the same design, i don't see why you would notice any differenece between a nice cocker and any blazer (blazers are better made in general due to higher quality parts and machining so they are already like "nice" cockers).
   

toothpastedog Sunday, September 4th, 2005 | 5:59 pm PST
about oiling the internals/pneumatics, you should oil the o-rings on the bolt (1 drop of oil per o-ring), put a couple drops on the hammer from the slot on the side of the gun, and put 2-3 drops of oil in the VA/ASA.
   

Eyes Thursday, January 19th, 2006 | 1:36 pm PST
Thank you. Thanks to your review, I'll buy this thing now. Goodbye rent money.

-Eyes
   

black_ops_22 Thursday, May 17th, 2007 | 6:08 pm PST
Sorry to put a new comment on an old review, but congrats on probably the best review I have ever read on here.
   

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