not quite sure, but there has to be some really sensible ones out there,...oh yah, get a steel hose, the plastic stuff blows
it looks nice and shoots nice if you're lucky enough to get a good one out of the box.
very loud, hard trigger pull, shoots very hot out of the box...i spent four hours at my local proshop helping him cut down springs to get the velocity below 300. it does have a tendency to chop balls in cold weather. but once it go above 60 it works fine.
good gun, 32 degrees did a nice job, but I'd go with an Extreme for the price and value...it's a really great gun. THE BTB on the other had could have had a little more wrench time put into in the facotry. I am quite disappointed they put this gun on the market wiht so many problems. I"m not trying to cut it down adn discourage you from buying it, cause once it's set up, it's golden, but be very prepared to use a lot of money and time to get it up to par.