Seems like the 'cup' is THE topic of conversation for these especially compared to DYE. Well these shorts have a removable foam jock. I took it out and its flexible. When you put the shorts on you slide it into place. I wouldn't say it's a great fit but it does the job and gives you a pretty nice side profile. I'm not going to have someone shoot me in the jewels just to try out how effective it is.
As for the rest of the shorts, they fit pretty snug. I'd recommend ordering a size bigger than you wear. I have pretty muscular legs and these shorts are a tad on the tight side.
Movement though doesn't seem to be hindered by wearing these shorts. I feel like i can move just as freely.
There is a TINY bit of padding in the thigh area. IT's not much but it's there, i was kind of hoping for more.
No padding for the butt. They're suppose to be slider shorts, there should be some padding in the rear area but there isn't.
They fit small so order larger.
Jock doesn't fit great but it's on ok fit.
No mesh to help the area breathe like Dye has.
Overall if you're looking to protect your jewels and dont' want to wear a hard cup, i'd recommend Raven over Dye. It has a real foam flexi cup that you can remove. Padding's a little sparce otherwise but overall these shorts are a good buy. I have them a 9 because of no butt padding and very thin thigh padding.