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PGoP Friday, May 24th, 2002
Period of
Product Use:
Less than a month4 of 6 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
3 years
Similar
Products Used:
Tippmann Model 98, my entry level marker. I tested most of the major pro guns (Angel, Shocker, Autococker etc.) while shopping for a new marker and settled on the RT Pro becuase I prefer trigger pull over mouse click.
Marker Setup: Automag RT Pro
Warp Feed
Intelliframe (intellifeed)
18v Revy (X-Board)
Droptech drop forward
crossfire 88/4500 HPA tank (850 preset)
Dye 10" Boomstick barrel
Recommended
Upgrades:
At least the Warp/Intellifeed.
An HPA tank set to 850 will give the trigger great reactivity.
The 10" Boomstick / Marblizer combo gives this marker insane accuracy.
8-10 bounce paint is a must for this marker (see "the bad")
Strengths: This marker will fire as fast as you can pull the trigger without short stroking it. The reactive trigger enables those who are used to it (it takes a bit of practice) to more than double the normal limitations of trigger pull (5-6 a second). Yes, electros with their mouse clicks will do the same, but this is paintball, not Quake III. Unlike electros with comparable ROF, the RT will do it with near perfect consistency and no shoot down. That means that the 12 balls you shot in one second all left your barrel with nearly the same velocity. Other markers loose power while firing at rates that high, this effects accuracy. If you've got a good paint/barrel match, more than likely those twelve balls landed within a few inches of each other.

The trigger pull vs. mouse click thing is a matter of preference. Personally, I prefer a trigger pull, and one that requires skill. Any fool can click a mouse.

The Retro Valve is the best. no further adjectives needed, and no modifications needed. No aftermarket product will improve this valve (most will hinder it). Don't mess with it, and it will not let you down.

Another reason for buying the RT Pro is it's rugged stainless steal construction. Those who are upgrading from Tippmanns will be shell shocked by the frailty and high maintenance level of most other pro markers (with a few notable exceptions). Automags in general are tough as nails.

Lastly, AGD's customer service is the best in the industry. Tom Kaye (the owner of the company) is often available to help you personally, over the phone or on automags.org. I think this availability is a reflection of how few problems AGD products have.
Weaknesses: This marker will not, I repeat, will not fire 26 BPS. But buck up, no marker will, no feed system can supply balls that fast. If you are looking for pure blazing speed, check out the fully automatic E-Mag Lv. 10 Extreme, or the Angel IR3, both of which will do 20 BPS.

Even with a shortened searing pin, you could never pull a trigger or click a mouse 26 times in one second, so forget about it. The fact that the gun will cycle that fast does not mean it will spray paint that fast.

You WILL short stroke, you WILL chop paint. The temptation to fire even faster WILL overcome you. Chopping (splitting a ball not fully in the chamber) is user error. If you don't think you will be able to control yourself, get a Shocker or another low pressure gun. Their bolts don't hit the ball with enough force to chop.

The marker deserves its reputation for being tough on paint. Tough paint (I shoot marblizer) will not have any problems in this marker. If forced to shoot crappy oblong 0-2 bounce field paint, you will have occasional barrel breaks.

With my set up, this marker weighs about 9000 lbs. I don't care, but you might.
Conclusion: The difference between markers at this level is mostly preferential. Semis will put down between 9 and 12 BPS occasionally bursting around 14 and 15. The RT Pro is the only non electro that can keep up (some will tell you it is faster, but at that point it is the user not the gun). Full auto is already forbade at 98%% of playing fields and multi firing modes soon will be. That leaves a field full of high end semis doing between 9 and 12 BPS.

Accuracy is about matching your paint to your barrel
Range is about FPS
Consistency is about having a good reg
ROF is about feed rate and your trigger finger

In then end they are all basically the same with a few differences. Fire what you like.

I give this Marker a nine in spite of the fact that it is my all time favorite. 10 means perfect, nothing is perfect.
Rating:
9 out of 10
 

Review Comments
Mr President Tuesday, April 1st, 2003 | 2:24 pm PST
Hey buddy, if u think this gun chops... get a lvl 10... then it wont.... trust me... I have one.... and angels are just as fast as this gun, not faster in my case... depends on how fast u can pull it... not the gun sorry buddy
   

UFDA26 Saturday, February 28th, 2004 | 4:37 pm PST
Weaknesses: This marker will not, I repeat, will not fire 26 BPS. But buck up, no marker will, no feed system can supply balls that fast. The Q Loader will feed 100+ BPS if you need it to. Do you're research if you're going to state a fact.
   

tonybhall Wednesday, April 7th, 2004 | 7:14 am PST
Hey,

UFDA26, If you check the date of this review, it was in May 2002. The Q-Loader did not exist at that time.

PgoP, get a level 10, it stops the chops
   

nip Wednesday, June 23rd, 2004 | 4:26 pm PST
trust them, the level ten upgrade helps. and markers now can get way above 20bps.
   

remingtn457 Friday, December 17th, 2004 | 6:35 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by UFDA26
Weaknesses: This marker will not, I repeat, will not fire 26 BPS. But buck up, no marker will, no feed system can supply balls that fast. The Q Loader will feed 100+ BPS if you need it to. Do you're research if you're going to state a fact.

100 BPS?!?!?!?!? buddy buddy buddy..........yer out of yer mind! the day a loader feeds 100 bps is the day you post an inteligent comment

and sorry, thats never gonna happen
   

angel 4 life Wednesday, February 9th, 2005 | 12:55 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by remingtn457


100 BPS?!?!?!?!? buddy buddy buddy..........yer out of yer mind! the day a loader feeds 100 bps is the day you post an inteligent comment

and sorry, thats never gonna happen

noobs think that because it their website shows one emptying at 100 bps
   

stevko Saturday, March 5th, 2005 | 11:34 am PST
angels can shoot 26 balls a second!!!!angel fly can shoot 31bps actually!!
   

angel 4 life Monday, March 7th, 2005 | 12:51 am PST
its uncapped at 31 people have claimed that they have modded boards that are capped at 46 (i think) and have actually reached 38 with a richmond riot HALO

WHICH I BELIEVE IS AN UNCAPPED HOPPER??? if im wrong someone correct me.
   

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