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Marker Tuesday, September 16th, 2003
Period of
Product Use:
3 months7 of 7 people found this review helpful.

More than 5 years
Products Used:
None, But Proteam made one a while back and Racegun and a few others now make them as well.
Marker Setup: Body: Mini Turtlecocker
Valve: Turtle valve
Bolt: Turtle bolt
Hammer: Turtle hammer (Modified Freeflow Tungsten Hammer)
Springset: Turtle & Madman
Pump Arm: Turtle Arm
Pull Pin: Turtle Pin
Back Block: Turtle Delrin
Frame: ANS E-Frame
LPR: WGP Tickler
Ball Detent: KAPP Delrin
Screws: Stainless Steel
ASA: Minicocker ASA adapter
Regulator: Palmer Stabilizer
Barrel: Scepter Barrel Kit
HPA: ACI Bulldog II
Strengths: Lightweight, decreased cocking mass, lower operating pressure, GREAT PRICE for what you get!
Weaknesses: None, but not able to use aftermarket parts (bolts, blocks, Pins or cocking rods)
Review: I just wanted to do a write-up on the Tutlecocker body kit I purchased from Bob at I currently do not have any decent pictures yet. (Mineís nickel plated so itís kind of hard to get a good picture of it without reflective hot spots.)

I just have to say one word: Awesome! Honestly it is so light (and I just got a standard WGP mini-cocker body done I can only imaging how light it would be with a heavily milled body) it's much lighter than my old body. I can get much tighter to the marker without the back block hitting me in the face, no more beaver tail. It looks great (to me at least) but now my Autococker might be mistaken for something else if you donít look close. Iím still reviewing the valve but so far it appears that my efficiency has increased.

The body kit arrived in a nicely packaged box. Plenty of padding was used. All of the body parts were already assembled so basically all I had to do was to put my front block and frame on. I had bob install ANS eye's for my ANS E-Frame. Fit and finish were very nice. The bolt seals extremely well.

The Turtle Cocker body kit comes with just about everything you need. After installing it, all I need to build another Autococker is basically a grip frame, pneumatics and barrel. I mean it comes with just about everything: Body, Back Block, Pump Arm, Valve, and Hammer. The quality is excellent. Fit is perfect. The Bolt is the snuggest Iíve ever seen. Complete seal when doing the reverse blow test. Since the Back Block and Bolt is made of Delrin you have a much lighter cocking mass. This should allow increased cocking speed and lower cocking pressure.

The valve is a whole new design. Similar to the rocket valve but it doesnít use a standard valve seat. Like the Rocket Valve the spring is on the hammer end vs. the other end like most valves. It is basically a ball bearing that seals in a cone. Take a look on the web site for more information. I havenít used it enough to see if it makes much of a difference but as mentioned above it seem to indicate an increase in efficiency.

None, but some people may have issues on not being able to use aftermarket parts such as bolts, blocks, Pins or cocking rods. But hey this is a custom marker. I bet you canít get spare parts for a Jessie James motorcycle at the local motorcycle shop (other than maybe the tires, air filter and spark plugs) or parts for a Lamborghini at your local auto parts store.
Conclusion: Awesome! Its is absolutely wicked with my ANS E-Frame! It is also much lighter and I can get much tighter without having a back block hit my mask.

Would I recommend one to someone? Yes I would. Turtle aka Robert aka Bob Long (no not the ironmen bob long he plays for the oh-noís) has been great in responding to any questions, allowing any changes wanted for the body I got from him.

I have wanted to get a unique body for my Autococker and I was lucky enough to stumble across one of Bob's threads. After reading and looking at the pictures I knew I had to have one.

If you want a very radical looking cocker or looking to tune your electro-cocker even more this is the way to go!
10 out of 10

Review Comments
mickvick302 Wednesday, February 4th, 2004 | 4:13 pm PST
hey, where can buy the turtle autococker?

bddrumer8802 Thursday, April 22nd, 2004 | 7:35 am PST is the official site. i haven't seen any other stores carry them.

SeVIIen Thursday, July 8th, 2004 | 1:23 pm PST
I just sent my ANS GenerationX4 into Bob at to have it converted. I can't wait to see the work he's done.

wgp04cocker Thursday, November 25th, 2004 | 12:14 pm PST
You say as a weekness that you can't add on aftermarket parts, but isn't that the whole point? The whole design of the gun is so that you don't have to worry about those things anymore.

MecTurtleCocker Thursday, November 2nd, 2006 | 4:35 pm PST
Umm well...a while back I was restoring an older Lambo...and I got some parts for it from Kragen Auto Parts.

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