Piranha 2k3 E-force
2k2 STO Autococker
Bob Long Timmy
Angel Speed (fired at my proshop, i almost peed myself)
the lower end guns cannot be compared to higher end guns. its just like comparing apples to oranges, it cant be done.
Red Lightning PaintJob
Evo 2 with Y board
Toxic 2x Trigger
Trigger Mods/ Polished internals
Lapco SIght Rail
Lapco Nickel Plated Double Trigger Guard
20oz Anti Siphon
IMPORTANT: Before you go out and buy a billion upgrades, please play with your gun stock to see if you really need them... also dont buy all your upgrades at once, buy some, play with it for a while, and buy some more. This way, you will enjoy it alot more than just buying all the upgrades at once imo.
For this gun, all you need is:
Barrel (to make it more accurate)
Double trigger (if you like it)
Loader (if your firing too fast with double trigger)
HPA or Anti siphon co2.
Anything else is just extra and a waste of money... trust me... i wasted too much money... $600+
NOTE: this gun is not the best thing in the world, its the best thing for beginners but can be upgraded to pluto and back... there are better guns out there.
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In review body.
Dont you just hate reviews that are crunched together? I'm going to try to make this review as easy as possible to read.
I've waited a year to review this gun so I can make sure I can get every little detail in.
Durable - Any gun can be durable if you take proper care of it. When i first got this gun, I did not know i had to oil it... I didnt oil it for 5 months and it still ran like new. This gun is good for newbies who want to play occasionally but also dont want to spend too much time cleaning their gun. But for me, this is my main gun, everything on the gun is upgraded, i am just short of an e-bolt which i should be aquiring soon.
Many owners - This is a pro and a con. Anybody can help you with this gun, many people own it therefore help should be easy to aquire if needed. There is not a problem with this gun that cant be fixed, there is always a fix for this gun... either a proper fix, or a ghetto fix.
Upgrades - Almost any paintball website will have upgrades for this gun, its is very common. Upgrades are pretty nicely priced but you can go overboard easily like me and spend $600+ which was good for me, cause i like my m98, im comfortable with it. As long as your comfortable with your gun, who cares what people say.
Co2 Acceptance - Runs great on co2, heck you can run it on constant liquid co2 if you want. The CVX valve is indestructable. Im sure most of your starters out there wont have enough money for a decent tank (68/4500 which run for $180) although you can get a cheap HPA tank for 80 bucks, but you wont get enough shots.
Design - The way the m98 opens is great, its in 2 halves, this way, you can see everything in front of you and it is accessible... it just takes some time to take it apart and put it together. I can do it no problem now, but if your new, be careful when taking apart the gun, if you need any help ask me.
Stock barrel - but hey, what can you ask for, its stock... no gun comes with a good stock barrel with the exception of some high end guns (impulse etc.. even those barrels are swapped out some times)... but out of all the stock barrels, spyder, piranhas, the tippmanns is the worst. Its 8 inches, the inside looks like its been pulled out of my ass. The insides are so rough, but the barrel still works. You can either polish the barrel yourself which will take some time but make it better than the stock, or pay for a new barrel which will run anywhere from $30 - $100+.
Design - The little parts inside the gun can be a pain in the butt to take out/reassemble when you are a newbie. There are pins, little springs that can go flying. Dont worry, this isnt rocket science, dont let it scare you. You will have to take apart your gun sometime (well my friend has his gun for 2 years already, and hes still yet to take it apart for a cleaning). Trust me, you will have to start somewhere, so start now and learn. Watch for the front sight spring the most, i lost mine, but i ghettofabricated a custom sight spring so its all randy dandy now.
The gun is also pretty long, compared to my friends guns, my gun is a speedball rifle, but i like how it feels, so thats all it matters.
I also wish the body was not cast moulded, the metal is very rough and looks bad... only if tippmann made the m98 more percise. The barrel threads are moulded (sometimes can eat your barrel, it ate the anno off my bigshot)
Another plus would be exchangeable bodies, but nobody makes them, a custom body for the 98 would be so awesome. Since nobody makes aftermarket bodies, i resorted to mill it myself.
Many owners - as i said above, this can be both a pro and a con. A lot of fields use this as their rental guns and many newbies have this gun. It kinda sucks walking onto a field and seeing 908458972341 people with the same gun as you... it really does. Its hard to be unique without dumping alot of dough.
Tippmanns Customer Service - yea, they were top notch a while back. Now, they just plain S U C K... their service blows now, i have completely lost faith in them. My marker was still in warranty, my powertube cracked, and i emailed them for a replacement, i stated that my gun was still in warranty but they still made me pay for a new valve. This pissed me off alot... I rate their service a 2 out of 5. They get a 2 because they actually reply and ask for your money.
Tippmanns weird thinking - The m98 has been out for what? 4-5 years now? Just this month, tippmann out of the blue decides to change the barrel threads for this gun. So new owners will not be able to use old barrels, but old owners could use the new barrels... how stupid is this? Wouldn't this idea change be a little late?
Quote from Tippmann:
We changed the ID and OD of the receiver and the barrel threads of 98 Customs about two weeks ago. All guns with serial numbers above 495,501 will not accept the old style barrels. All barrels being made now, have the new style thread. However, all new barrels will also fit older guns regardless of serial number.
If you have an aftermarket barrel with the older style threads, it will not fit the new receiver. We suggest that you contact your supplier for a new style barrel that will fit. All barrel manufacturers were notified of the change long before we ever made any changes.
I hope this review has helped anybody decide to buy or not buy this gun.
I hope my choice of waiting 1 year before writing this will benefit others.
I would recommend this gun to any beginner who wants something to play with but also wants a gun they can upgrade
I will add more to this review as neseccary
9 out of 10
Last edited on Monday, November 3rd, 2003 at 7:12 pm PST
hey nice review but ive had a 98c for like 2 years and i dont think ur list of upgrades was complete... after playing with my gun i felt like i needed a drop forward. it shortens up the gun and balances it out a lot. especially for a tippmann b/b it's kinda long
nicely written, in-depth, and above all, accurate. nicely done, my friend, nicely done.
i read this review and knew that you knew what you were talking about. so when i thought about buying a paintball gun that i could use in the woods, i got a custom 98. thanks for the help!
quote:Originally posted by p8ntballrebel89 about this whole "good for woodsball gun". yeah, that is one thing that I have never got. Why do people say all the time that certain guns aren't good for woodsball? Besides the colors, I don't see how certain guns are bad for woodsball.You can pretty much get every gun in black. Wouldn't an angel be awesome for the woods? Yea, that's what I call suppressive fire. And yes, I know that's not every ones tactic in the woods. Seems to me like having a full auto non typical woods gun would be really good for fireing and maneuvering. Apparently the US military thinks that having fast firing weapons is a good idea. Any full auto or really fast gun (Angel, Bob Longs, Shocker, or basically anything full auto or as fast as it) would be compared to the BAR (Browning Automatic Rifle) of World War 2, or the modern m60 and m249. They lay down a sustained fast amount of fire to keep the enemy down. I don't know about any of you all, but if I am in the woods and I stumble upon some dude shooting full auto 13+ balls a second on me then I am definitely going to be down way faster and longer than with just some guy with a basic semi-auto. Not to mention more freaked out. I have just always heard about certain guns being bad for woods and am just wondering why. There really isn't much of a reason.
Ya know thats a good question, I thought about that to. When me and my friends play we have a variety of markers and the people who stand out are the ones that play longer. We even switch markers and it all comes down to experience. One thing I have noticed is that for some reason Tippmann markers seem to shoot farther. I donít understand why, but my friend has a BKO and I went with him to a field and we were at the same velocity and my Tippmann still shot farther. He even has a freak kit so I knew he had the paint matched. It could be the angle of which we were holding the marker but we both tried to hit a bunker across the field and I could hit it and his shots fell short. But yeah I donít know why some markers are good at speedball and not woods ball. It all comes down to your experience.
You did a good job on your review but you said the metal on the gun wasn't good. If the gun wasn't made out of metal then it would break and crack but with that metal it is so durable that you could do almost anything to it and it would still work. And who cares about the looks of it when it is one of the most reliable guns on the market. I have an electric gun but every time I go paintballing I take my 98 Custom with me as a back up gun because I know if my electric gun takes a crap on me my 98 Custom will always be there and it will always work no matter what. So I am glad it has that so called "crappy" metal on it because that is what makes that gun the best.
I agree with this review, although I do not own my own marker as of yet, I am saving up to get a SWEET set-up (a BIG step-up I know). I have been paint balling about 4 times and was thrilled each and every time I stepped out onto the field. I'd say that 3/4 time I played, I used this marker and it is very durable but HORRIBLY inaccurate. My WORST experience with it was when I was pinned down behind a bunker and from where I was I could see a shoe sticking out from behind another bunker less than 10 feet away!!! I honestly shot directly at it and used about 25 shots before FINALLY hitting the target! Each ball flew straight for 5 feet, then (almost like it had a mind of it's own) went off target by about 6 inches, which is quite a lot for even a distance shot, but this was from about 10 feet away! I am not going to get this marker personally, but I would say with a better barrel and easier pull trigger, this gun has a lot of fun in it.
oh snap this is the best tipmann review i have ever seen . i was about to right 1 but i dont thik that i could come close to toping this 1 u have all the bases covered. good job man. i got all my tippmann and paintball stuff from bigpearlpaintball.com they had the best prices, if and item wasn't on there web site i just e-maild them and they got it for me and it was always the cheapest, i found some items like my trigger cheaper and they beet the price i fond it for so ya thats the place to get your upgrades.
i was wondering if you got this problem too, since you have used the gun for a while. the freaking paint on older tippmans like peels off. lol, it doesnt affect how the gun works, but man is it annoying. good review