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ToddF Tuesday, November 11th, 2003
Period of
Product Use:
3 months20 of 21 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
4 years
Similar
Products Used:
Brass Eagle Extreme Vision 280 Mask - This is the mask I bought 4 years ago when I began playing paintball. At the time, I chose the Extreme Vision 280 over the Brass Eagle Maxx Vision Mask (the same mask as the VForce Shield Mask when it was being distributed by Brass Eagle instead of VForce). I wear glasses and the 280 has more interior clearance than the Shield. The lens was farther from the glasses frame and the nose foam didn't interfere with my glasses as much. That said, the 280 is heavier and slides around more on your head than the Shield.
Marker Setup: Piranha STS w/ LP valve. Running CO2 mounted on a self machined drop forward. CO2 to horz mounted expansion chamber to AA Vigilante LP reg into gun.
Strengths: -fits over glasses
-easy change lens
-no fog lens
-secure fit to head
-included visor
Weaknesses: -visor hard to remove
-adhesive gets on glasses lenses
Review: I bought this mask because I found that lenses were no longer available for my Extreme Vision 280, after taking a couple years off from the sport. I tried a couple other masks on at the store and found that none of them fit as well over my glasses. I was also accustomed to a wide field of view, and although not as good as my old mask, the Shield was better than the others I tried on.

I very much like the chin strap, and unlike some others who have posted reviews, I left it installed. It doesn't have to be at all tight on your chin. What it does is allow you to wear the headband higher up on your head. The chinstrap keeps the mask from sliding up, and the higher positioned headstrap keeps the mask from sliding down. You get a much more secure fit without having to crank up the headband tension. I have had times when I have taken a fall over a downed limb where my old mask would require readjustment on my face, where the new one stays put.

I also like the easy to change lens. When I get home from playing and hop in the shower, I take the mask in with me and use the shower to spray it clean. It is easy to pop out the lens to get all the paint out of the cracks and crevices. This also helps wash the sweat out of the foam and keeps it from getting stinky. When I get out of the shower I shake the loose water off the mask and lens, and let them set overnight to dry. The lens often drys clear with only a hint of water spotting. A damp bathtowl swiped lightly over the dry lens takes off the waterspots and leaves it crystal clear.

I have found that the nose foam comes up a little higher on my face than in my old mask. The foam touches the bottom edges of my glasses and the first couple times I played, I ended up with adhesive smeared on the lower edges of my lenses. It cleaned off fairly easily, but was an unexpected surprise. If your store has multiple masks and you wear glasses, you may want to try on different ones to see if the foam is installed slightly differently in any of them. One may play better with your glasses than the others.

Of the three times I have used this mask, I have not had any mask fogging, though the first time, I got some fog on my glasses. I am used to this level of performance, since my old mask lens was also made by Z-Leader.

The hinged neck guard on this mask provides much better protection than my old mask. I haven't yet experienced the benefits of this in the new mask, but I have been shot in the neck in my old mask where I would be protected by the Shield. That neck shot was one of the most painful hits I've ever taken. It's nice to not have to worry about that now.

Finally, the performance to price ratio for this mask is what really attracted me to it. I was open to getting a mask from another company, but after trying on several, I did not. The others I tried on cost $20 to $30 more and did not fit as well over my glasses.
Conclusion: What really sets this mask apart from the others for me were these things:
- Fit over glasses.
- Anti-fog lens.
- Price.

Secondary benefits that I discovered after having made the purchase are:
- Very secure fit when using the chin strap.
- Quick change lens very much improves ease of cleaning.

Biggest drawback is the difficult to remove visor.
Rating:
9 out of 10
 

Review Comments
Glaivens Monday, February 9th, 2004 | 6:39 am PST
The visor is NOT hard to remove, it takes me about 5 seconds literally to take it off. DONT LISTEN TO THAT COMMENT IT IS WRONG!
   

G_unit_gangsta Saturday, March 27th, 2004 | 2:39 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by Glaivens
The visor is NOT hard to remove, it takes me about 5 seconds literally to take it off. DONT LISTEN TO THAT COMMENT IT IS WRONG!
actualy your wrong. it is pretty tough to take the visor off. But the mask is realy good though.
   

sukkingalemon Wednesday, April 14th, 2004 | 2:30 pm PST
Yeah, the visor is pretty tricky to take off, only used this mask, so I don't know how it compares, but its hooked on with four little o-rings in an akward place, stays on for sure though.
   

Spyder_pilot Wednesday, March 9th, 2005 | 6:20 pm PST
Weaknesses: -visor hard to remove
-adhesive gets on glasses lenses

This adhesive has nothing to do with the mask having a weakness..... its just YOUR glasses getting sweat or whatever adhesive it is. Its not the mask doing this
   

bbrp54 Saturday, March 26th, 2005 | 5:11 pm PST
This mask may have had some extra adhesive that rubbed his glasses. How else would the foam be secured to the mask?
   

Pattons3rd Saturday, September 3rd, 2005 | 4:08 pm PST
does it really matter? if you dont have glasses, just pay no attention to the glasses remark. the visor is not going to deterr people either. u all need to relax. a visor doesnt even appeal to me. i took mine off and stuck leaves in my mask lol. if it takes a littl;e longer to remove it, so what? it isnt going to compromise the structural integrity of the mask. its just his opinion
   

southern_pber Friday, February 3rd, 2006 | 7:57 pm PST
if you do have glasses i would suggest the V-force morph. it has a larger lens which means more room in gogle area.
   

pimpsickle Monday, June 26th, 2006 | 5:02 pm PST
the visor is horrible on this mask. Its a great mask but the visor is hard to get on, sits in an odd position, moves, and its hard to get off. Despite that, the goggles are still really good because the lenses WILL NOT FOG.
   

pimpsickle Monday, June 26th, 2006 | 5:05 pm PST
By the way if youve been playing for 4 years and your still using a piranha then i kinda feel sorry for you.
   

p8ntballrebel89 Thursday, August 24th, 2006 | 7:45 pm PST
There is nothing wrong with still using a piranah after 4 years
   

pfizerreg Monday, October 30th, 2006 | 10:23 am PST
You can use Vforce Profiler/Morph lenses in the old zleader goggles apparently.
   

cciballer52 Friday, December 29th, 2006 | 4:46 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by southern_pber
if you do have glasses i would suggest the V-force morph. it has a larger lens which means more room in gogle area.

Hehehe....the lenses are the same for both the shield and the morph...and also the profiler...what do you mean they're different?
   

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