The fields were not very well laid out. In the western town there wasn't really anything in between the to house like things, and the refs called it game when I was still in and playing (there were only 2 on the other team so no he wasn't doing me a favor). The hyperball set up was bad also, the back right and left were 2 yards behind the start point, and the snakes were way to big to shoot over. All in all the field's set ups seemed like they were for the noobies or players who like to stay at one bunker.
When I payed for my entery it took forever, but I'm not to mad at that becuse he was job training a kid. Also the only thing they sold was gloves. No squeeges or barrel covers that really got me angery. Paint prices were good compared to most but the quality was bad. Not that it wasn't stored right just the type of paint was really freaken bad.
Now services was some what lacking. The ref couldn't see a paint hit even if it was in front of him. I was hit in the arm bunkering someone so I told him to check the guy. He called him clean then checked me and called me clean. The ball broke on my arm in plain sight and he didn't see it, so I called my self out. Also the ref won't which up the teams so I could be with me friend. Also the refs who chronoed our markers didn't let us turn them up even though they were way under the field limit. It was like the ref didn't want to deal with us and we were the only ones there at that time.
Co2 and HPA refills were horrible. The guy manning the stations wouldn't give you a full fill. He only filled 20oz up to 16oz not a full 20 and filled HPA to 3000psi. When getting a fill I had to take my tank off and hand it to them to fill it (btw it was a 14 year old filling tanks). I don't think they give out O-rings free or other wise but I'm not 100% sure. At the end of the "session" they won't give you a fill to tune you marker with until next time you play becuse I quote from the horse's mouth "It cost to much to fill your tanks" and "You didn't come with a full tank..." that is what made me decide not to go back again. $10 air fee and I only used 2000psi that is a scam!
I hope this field gets it's act together. Right now the extra money to play else were is worth it for better refs and service.
The paint is RPS/PMI All Star, Premium, Marblizer. If you bought white box for $41, you got what you paid for. As for the snakes, they are 3 and half feet tall at the most, not too tall for 90% of players. However, if you are right about half fills and fill refusals, that is crap and you should have made a big deal about that to them. It sounds as if the referee situation has gone downhill a little, I hope they see your review. Or better yet, tell them yourself. I agree, Outlaw is better, but you will spend more for field fee and $7.50 for the priviledge of BYOP or pay higher paint prices at the pro shop than Challenge. The upside is there are usually more people at Outlaw because it is more established.
The fields were set by a professional player. We have taken feedback on ways to improve play and are implimenting changes where practical. We do understand that any one field will be liked by some and not by others, but we are will to listen and adapt.
The field was not designed to be a store. We provide barrel covers free of charge if you forget to bring yours and the referees all cary squeeges to clear paint while on the field. If you bring your marker to the sales area, we will clean any paint breaks and masks at NO CHARGE. We do carry gloves, as well as a whip squeege, replacement safety valves, chest protectors, and generic hopper necks. Again, we are NOT a store. We carry PMI brand paints; Stinger @$41/case, Premium @ $50/case, All Star @ $65/case and Marballizer @ $75/case. We only carry Stinger as some have asked for a cheap paint. (Why a peson would pay hundreds of $'s for a marker and fire cheap paint is an unknown to us).
The FPS set at the field is 280. If your marker was set too low, you are correct, it should have been adjusted up to the 280 FPS. I will discuss this with the referees so this will not happen in the future. If you ever have a problem wiht the refereees, or other practices, there is always a manager on duty who will help resolve your problems.
The minimum age for working here is sixteen years old. Sorry if the guy behind the counter looked younger. Until we can invest in a compressor, the HPA fills will remain at 3000 PSI. We have found that this will last even the most agressive player the 4 hour Night Session, the same person may have to refill his tank once during the Day Session. The same goes with the CO2. We do carry "O" rings and they are put onto your equipment at NO CHARGE. As far as the $10.00 air fee, you must have us confused with another field. THERE IS NO FEE SET FOR AIR ONLY. Our 4 hour Night Session costs $11.00 and includes UNLIMITED CO2 or HPA during the session. The eight hour Day Session is $13.00, while the All Day Saturday (12 Hours) Session is only $18.00 (both include UNLIMITED AIR). You are correct, once the session has ended, refills of air end, however, if you bring an empty tank at the beginning of the session, it will be filled for no additional charge.
We appreciated your comments and will incorporate those with merit.