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wolfstalker Tuesday, May 2nd, 2006
Period of
Field Use:
Just once
Date There: April 29th, 2006
Paintball
Experience:
More than 5 years
Other Fields
in the Area:
Just visited this one, heard it was the best in the area.
Directions
to the Field:
The directions on their website are pretty good.
Review: First of let me tell you what I really liked about this place. As far as fields and variety, I thought this place was pretty good. Their speedball fields were on the small side but laid out well. They have some nice woodsball courses, including a king of the hill type course with a castle on top of a hill and a good size town with about 15 or 20 buildings. They have some more woodsball courses, but we never got out there. The hours of operation were great, 9am-9pm, but after dark you have to go inside and the indoor speedball course is really small. Prices were about average for paint with the cheapest case of paint being $60. The field fee was probably the best I have seen if you went there regularly, it was $10 for all week. The staff was helpful and the owner was very nice and even let us try out one of his markers for free. Now for what I really did not like. To be very honest their refs were an absolute joke. I think there were the owner's kids or something but the oldest ref couldn't have been older than 16. There was even a kid the was about 12 that was reffing for us. I don't have any issue with age as long as they do a good accurate job. I'm not sure if this was a off day for them and their other refs weren't there or what. When I called the owner the day before he said he was going to have to large groups there, so I would assume he had most of his reffing staff there for that day, which was a grand total of three young teenagers. Throughout the day I watched these refs and I only saw them call a total of maybe 5 people out. They pretty much just stood out of the way and let everyone play, some of our games started when a player on the field yelled GO, the refs weren't even counting down or beginning the match. Now I would have been able to swallow all this fine if it were not for what I am about to tell you. Some geniuses in one of the groups decided the should play "ironman" which isn't even a form of paintball at all I might add. They wanted to play a game with about 20 people, but they wanted to be able to overshoot everyone until they couldn't take it any more. To my surprise the refs thought this was an awesome idea and even ran to get some of his buddies to come watch! Me and my friend that came with me sat out from that match just to make the statement that we didn't agree that this was safe or right. I then watched several people get shoot at close range anywhere from 5 to 10 times. At one point some dude who wanted to prove he fearless ran right up to three people standing behind a bunker. I watched him get shot 15 or 20 times by those three people before he gave up. I then watched the same guy lift his mask up one his head an walk off the field while walking right by people shooting and getting shot at. He was clearly in danger of getting hit in the face with shots all around him, but not one ref, and there were three on the field, said a single thing to him. I understand it may have been an off day and the refs can't see every thing, but they missed some very blatant disregard for safety and didn't say a word. That is the simplest most basic rule in paintball, do not take you mask off while on the field, and this wasn't on some huge spread out course it was a smaller area at the base of the castle hill. Now I love paintball and I enjoy playing every type of way you can, but this was ridiculous. The whole point of paintball it to have a good time, and be safe and abide by the rules. It is never fun to be shot up several times, and is not safe at all. Its not about who is tougher, or stupider I should say, and who will allow themselves to be stitched up the most. Safety is a huge thing for me in paintball, when people fool around they get hurt and it gives paintball a bad name. So until they make some changes to their reffing staff and get some qualified and trained refs there, I can't say I would recommend them. They have some great qualities there, but it is all for nothing if you don't abide by the rules and protect the players. I hope post will lead to Hornet's Nest to get some good refs, or at least train the ones they have to properly maintain games. The refs are all that is holding them back from being on of the best places I have played at.
 

Review Comments
hornet5 Tuesday, May 2nd, 2006 | 3:38 pm PST
First of all i would like to thank you for your concerns, I did not know that this Ironman thing happened until after the fact. The group that did this was the Criminal Justce class form a local college and they have been warned not to ever do that again, The refs who are all paid and not related to me have been reprimanded and have to attend a reffing class or never ref here again. I'm very sorry for your experience and when or if you want to come back as long as its not a tournament i will give you free air and play for your group that attended that day, I hope you know that i really take my business serious as i have played paintball since 1988 and i'm trying to make this a safe and fun enviroment an experience for everyone. Again i apologize for any inconvenience an i hope to meet again and with a better experience.
   

larrynum24 Saturday, May 6th, 2006 | 10:21 pm PST
ok i was one of the ones reffing that iron man game..and bob this is justin..that was the only game i reffed of that group that day..i was reffing the other group..and i want to say that even though we were standing there we still were watching the game..and not one person lifted up his mask they were told not to take there mask off until they were off the field and they obeyed that...and we were calling people out and if people got shot at least more than 5 times then we called them out even if they thought they could go on longer..we didnt even know they werent allowed to play that game but we do now..even though we were out there and were standing there..we were still doing our job...so sorry if we caused any problems but like i said i didnt even ref any other games with that group
   

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