The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion below.
Period of Field Use:
May 20th, 2006
Other Fields in the Area:
Splat Action, and Portland Paintball.
Directions to the Field:
19712 SE Canyon Valley Rd
Sandy, OR 97055
1. The abode of condemned souls and devils in some religions; the place of eternal punishment for the wicked after death, presided over by Satan.
(Also see ghetto, sucky, cheap, crap.)
This is my first review I have written on pbreview.com, in the series of reviews which I will be posting in the near future. Two years ago, I went paintballing for the first time. This was at Hit 'n Run, and it was what got me started on my paintballing addiction. And now it time to write to you, readers, to remind yourself that your (likely local) paintball course Pioneer Paintball, has far too many thorns to be seen about. Yes, it is very cheap, compared to some of the better courses in Oregon, like Splat Action, but I made the sad mistake of not filling my air tank before I showed up there. You would assume any given field would have an air-filler, but nope, not this one. Don't get me wrong though, this wasn't my first time attending this field, as I went there the summer before for a friend's birthday party. At first, the course wasn't very visually appealing (think ghetto) but it was cheap, and at the time you could bring your own paint. I wonder then, why haven't I heard about this place before, from some of my other paintball buddies? Well I soon found out. The second time I went I didn't share the enthusiasm that I had the first time. You now have to buy THEIR paint. So I put my paint aside, not a big deal because I brought some extra money with me, and I picked up a case of relatively cheap paint at a box of 2000 for 40 bucks. And then the real fun began. After we chrono'd and made plans to savor the little air that we had (which still coulden't be refilled) we stooped on the the first "air ball" field. Only one problem, there wasn't any refs. We had to go track down and bring a ref, who then started out game. WRRRRRRT! The whistle brew. Now amongst all of the sacks filled up with trash, such as used Gatorade bottles, (Bunkers) I had shot on what I thought was my friend on the opposing team, wearing a black sweatshirt. WRONG. It was a ref in the wrong attire, of now which was yelling at me. Refs are usually required to wear a bright yellow jersey, let alone a bright yellow mask. And now I have a question for you, Pioneer Paintball, why you didn’t call your paintball park "hell", which in all probability would have suited your speed ball courses more. Think of it, your course resembles hell so much…
I was left wandering for some kind of satisfaction, which I finally found when I shot that damn ref again, on my way out.
While the general idea in itself was good, of not spending much money, it ended up biting us in the ass, as the execution of this great peice of land just fails utterly and completely. Just think of this field as a ripped condom, Useless.
But this is just one man's review, so don't piss yourself if you like this fine paintball park.
Dispute: I own Pioneer Painball Park, and I'd like to defend myself againts the defamation this author blatantly used toward our facility.
I'd also like to add that we are a small operation and are continually making improvements to suit the needs of our customers. We are not perfect and we are not for everybody. We do not satisfy the needs of "tournament" players. On the other hand we cater to young kids and recreational players looking for a place to have fun and not break your wallet in the process.
Mr. Mister says that he assumed that every field has compressed air and was disappointed when we couldn't fill his tank. Well thats the problem with assumptions...sometimes they're wrong. Supply and demand, we cater to young kids who dont have the funds to afford air tanks, so we haven't felt the need to purchase a compressed air fill station (which cost $ by the way).
The auther was also upset that you could no longer bring outside paint to our facility. The reason for that is because our insurance company doesnt allow outside paint any more. But I hardly see the problem considering our paint is very reasonable and of good quality. Plus, how many other fields allow you to bring outside paint? None that I know of, and all for the same reason, insurance. Please note, a simple phone call to our facility prior to your arrival would have clarified these issues.
Mr. Mister mentions that there were no refs present and he had to go "track one down". He also claims later that the refs were not wearing the proper attire (yellow jersey and yellow mask) and was yelled at when the ref was shot, (due to the wrong attire). I have personally been a ref here for at least two years. I can also honestly say that I have refereed nearly 90% of every paintball party that comes out here to play, which more than likely includes the day in question. I cannot specifically prove to anyone that what Mr. Mister says is false and I know that I'm a very biased party toward Pioneer Paintball but I can honestly say we have never ever in two years let players chrono or be at or on the field unattended. The refs greet the players upon arrival, the refs chrono the guns, the refs give a brief overview of the safety rules prior to play and the refs then start game play, they ref game play and end game play. I can also honestly say that every ref wears a yellow jersey and a yellow mask. One more time, every ref wears a yellow jersey and a yellow mask, with no exceptions! No ref has ever yelled or has even become angry when they are shot on the field. Its part of our job, we know it's going to happen and after a few months of it, you get used to it... honestly.
Lets just humor the idea that what Mr. Mister says is true, lets pretend we didn't wear a yellow jersey or a yellow mask. I still have to believe that his vision needs to be checked if he cannot distinguish a player from a ref. Players have guns, refs do not. Players run around, shooting and yelling at eachother, refs do not. Refs stand in the open holding white mega phones and umbrellas (if its raining) and players do not. So even if it's 20 degrees outside and the refs are bundled up (because we aren't running around like you are) and not wearing a visible yellow jersey, we are still very distinguishable. I dont buy it, I dont buy any of it.
Apparently, people have problems with our bunkers being made up of recyclable bottles. I have a simple solution, we can up our field fees to standard prices: $15 for four hours of play and we can get nice air bunkers. Or you can have the hyper pipes and the recyclable 'cube' bunkers and play for 7 hours for 7 dollars.
I realize that I'm the owner and I'm sure people believe that I'm going to defend my facility even if I have to lie and deny what unbiased parties write. Well, atleast we think they are unbiased. But it has been brought to my attention that the negative reviews that we have recieved are those from players with their own agendas who purposley and intentionally lie to hurt another field and in turn make their favorite field look more appealing.
The main point you should get out of this if you get nothing else is that we are not for everybody. We do not suit the needs of "tournament" players. If you want a perfect facility (which we are not) spend your money elsewhere. We are trying our best to make your paintball experience as fun as we can with the funds we have. If you have any suggestions for us on how to make things better tells us in person. If you have a problem with us tell us in person. Dont use the anonymity (secrecy) of the internet to do all your smack talking. If you have a problem with us, man up and tell us in person.
Jarrett Fegel co-owner/head ref of Pioneer Paintball Park