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CleavageSweat Saturday, March 8th, 2008
The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion below.
Period of
Field Use:
Just once
Date There: February 23rd, 2008
Paintball
Experience:
More than 5 years
Other Fields
in the Area:
Pevs, Hogback, Warplay, Splat Bros
Directions
to the Field:
14375 Marine Corps Drive
Lanexa, Virginia 23089
USA
Review: Let me start by saying that the people that worked there were very friendly and good people. This includes the players that were there that day as well.

The best way to describe New Kent is potential unfulfilled. My main gripe is that the instructions for each game were "severely" over complicated. I have a college degree but 30 seconds into the briefing I was just totally lost and so was everyone that was with me and some of the regulars from the looks on their faces. Some of the briefings lasted 30 minutes.

Because the instructions were so long winded and overly complicated everyone basically just went out on the field not really knowing what the heck was just said. Most of the players just wandered aimlessly looking for someone with a different color arm band. Some would follow the field sarges but once the sarges got hit dead men can't talk. So it basically just turned into a cluster f***.

Next gripe is the field sarge/no referees... this is the absolute worst idea. Too many times during play the field sarge for whatever team would basically call a time-out to address rule breaking (like out of bounds and paint checks). It made it really confusing and gave away positions a lot and was just generally "retarded". If i ever see a field that had field sarges instead of refs I will steer clear. If you guys are reading this dump the field sarge idea and get impartial referees...

My next biggest gripe was that they never flip-flopped sides. One team was basically defending all day and one attacking. Most fields change sides to let both teams experience the attack/defend.

OK... so now that I pointed out the bad let me try to point out the good. Their bunkers and trenches were some of the best I've seen. They really went through a lot of effort in creating a trench system that really looks and feels like the ones you see on a Hollywood set.

Would I ever go back to this field? Probably not. Until they address some fundamental flaws I find this field to be below average.

Bottom line great people... bad execution.


EDIT:

I did not want the field sarges to "cheat" and tell us anything. You misunderstood. The point I was laboring to make was that once they were out (which for our side seemed alot) the rest of us were all just a bunch of clueless privates (in terms of knowing where to go and what to do). This all goes back to the games being overy complicated.

I don't want to argue. I'm sure your field has a following and that's awesome. All I'm saying is that me and my crew had a really bad time. Chalk it up to you guys trying something new... bad day... Mercury in retrograde... I don't know. We all had a bad time and I was trying to point out the reasons I deemed were the cause.

After re-reading my post I can see how you might have taken offense but I tried to be objective and not be too critical. I apologize if I offended you and your field.

Last edited on Monday, March 10th, 2008 at 7:51 pm PST
 

Review Comments
RollingThunder Sunday, March 9th, 2008 | 1:13 pm PST
Dispute:
Let me say that I firmly believe that all players are allowed opinions.

I have discussed your review with the owner and feel we must address what you have said.

Briefings: I too have a college degree and just because you have one does not make you intelligent. That is not a slam against you, but is merely a truth. Being the ripe old age of 43, I can honestly say I know people and have been in contact with degreed people that couldn’t add 2+2 and come up with an answer that closely resembles 4. So, that is a pretty mute point.
Yes, the briefings for some games are long. It is the intention of the owner to ensure that all bases are covered and not dummy down the briefing. After some discussion, we are going to shorten the briefings to only the important details. If any player(s) require more detail or have unusual questions, they will be answered after the majority of players have been released to gear up.
BTW, no briefing ever lasted 30 minutes, just seemed that way I’m sure. I was there too.

Dead men talking is a form of cheating, it gives intelligence to a team. I guess you condone cheating, not sure, only you know that for sure. As far as Field Sgts being taken out, it is always our hope that more experience players (like yourself) will take a leadership role and achieves the objective laid out in the briefing. It’s not the Field Sgt’s role to give you instructions on what to do after he has been eliminated. But, I can understand if you really didn’t understand what the objective was then, it always can turn into a cluster.

Field Sergeants: NKPB has been in existence since 1988 and the role of the Field Sgt was implemented in the early 90’s. For the size of the fields and scope of some games it is about the only concept that will work, to ensure safety, fair play and game continuity. Impartial roving referees won’t work as well, because there are only 3-4 Field Sgts per team and they are always near the action. So, we generally see what a referee would, plus that ref would give away player position, this is not speedball it is woodsball. So, your recommendation is flawed.
With reference to the game stoppage, yes that only occurred in one game all day. Normally, if it was just one player play would not have been halted and that player would have been corrected without problem. In this case several players were “out of bounds” either at the start of each sequence or retreating too dead and fell out of the their play area they have to stay in. So in order to maintain fair play and game continuity Field Sgts had to stop play and move players back into the correct area.
As far as paint checks only play is frozen area the player being checked, so unless you were right next to a player there should not have been any issue.
In reference to positions being given away, by stoppage or paint checks, if you were “out of bounds then there is nothing that could be done to avoid that and if your getting paint check then I think every knows where you are. But once you shoot that pretty much happens, unless you can eliminate players with one shot. At least in my 18 years of playing that’s pretty much how it works.

Flip/Flop sides: I’m guessing you got there late, because only 2 games out of the 5 had set attackers and defenders. The one mentioned above was one. It is very paint consuming game, so unless you’re independently wealthy or part of a sponsored team most people cannot afford shooting between 800-1000 round in per game. So, if we switched side (which we have done in the past) in 2 games a player would shoot a case or more and their day would be done. We do not operate that way because we feel it is not fair to ALL the players.


It is unfortunate that you will not be coming back, but that is your decision. We will not change certain fundamentals of our operation, it seems to have worked for us for quite some time now and unlike so many of the field in this South Eastern Virginia area we are still here and they are not. So, we must be doing something right.
   

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