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matkat Monday, May 18th, 2009
Period of
Field Use:
Less than a month
Last There: May 24th, 2009
Paintball
Experience:
More than 5 years
Other Fields
in the Area:
Splat Attack, DBS, Forest Fire, Old Bill and Jims, Hole in the Wall, STP, KC, almost all fields in NW, been playing 13yrs.
Directions
to the Field:
Take WA-167 to 410E, R on WA-162E follow until Calistoga road just passed downtown Orting and take a right follow until the road changes name and take a Left on 150AVE, follow until Jankse Road and take a Left, you will find Operation.
Review: ORIGINAL REVIEW 5/17/09
UPDATED 5/24/09 - Corrections indicated

Both times were fun.

Fields - With the exception of the Jungle field, Opertation has some great fields, I am particularly fond of Urban. They have a total of 6 fields, some of the most variety in the area. For the reason of variety and quality of fields I would be back.

They rotate walkons with private players on ALL fields. This makes for a good vareity of game play, but half way through the day, I would like if they asked walk-ons what field we wanted to play, everyone seemed to enjoy Urban, I didn't get enough. It should be said that this was there 10th aniverary and it was very crowded with walk-ons (lots), some teams and a few private parties. Perhaps on a less crowded day.

Correction - I went on anonther less crowded day and got my fill of Urban

Correction on review below...I can understand what the guy was talking about regarding nettles, mud in jungle, that needs fixing, I agree. I would suggest cutting out some nettles, making a trail to jungle where you dont need a mask behind Urban and filling heavily mudded areas with sand. Make for a cool and unique look, inexpensive and players would surely prefer sand over mud.

Correction on me: I went again, the bunkers are new, it is niether gravel or grass, but rather just dirt as if gravel removed. I remembered I didn't feel any gravel on my knees of flying around...safety, definately no gravel, but there was no grass either, long story short didn't notice it the first time, I just knew it wasn't gravel.

However, gravel on airball is straight false I was there and played airball it was a grass field with "Brand New" bunkers. Nets were fine unless you don't know how to use them, way better than some.

Staff - This is where I had mixed feelings. Like ppl in real life, each ref was different, in personality, strictness, there interpetation of rules, and how quick/effective they were at keeping games going and making good calls.

I felt (I am 25yo) that the ref we had on walkons was a bit inexperienced. Yes, he was young, that I don't got a problem with as long as there is anonther older ref on the field or managing games. This ref "Lazerus" would be find for making paintchecks, calls and was "ok", not "bad", but seemed to leave some delay between games, not change game types often and I don't feel was aqeduite to manage walk-ons on there own. There were plenty of other refs of all age groups and types, I had not had expeirence except with two others. Mario seemed to be the opposite end of the spectrum, very strict, not much tolerance for whining or overshooting, actually I kinda liked him as a ref, got games going quickly. He seems like a ref that would be great until you had any sort of dispute. He had a unusually small stature and I think overcompensated by being loud and strict, but I think he did his job well.

I suppose I would like to see someone over 18 managing the game, someone who keeps games going, changes them and is fair, strict and knowledgeable. I would like to see consitency between refs in calls and running games.

Correction: After anonther visit, I had some different refs, looked to be fit and in low to mid 20s... I did not catch there names. They did do a great job of keeping games going, and players happy. They were over 18. Still game type was all elimination for each game I played... what ever happened to CTF/centerflag?, etc.

The owner was very nice and informitive. However, when I went up to ask her about real estate and said I have a question, she said it isn't a complaint was it. I said no, and we went about our conversation. I was not complaing overall it had been a great experience, but made me think the one small issue I had was the ref. If I had a legitimate problem would she have been apathetic, particularly if it was a staff member before even knowing what transpired. This made me a little uncomfortable and I did not know whether it was in the context of a joke or not.

Safety - Chrono was not consitent, they did tell us to check, but did not enforce. However, I should note that the headcount was such between all the groups that this would have put SEVERE delays on the games. I will have to go on a less busy day to see if they are better about this. I think the field limit was 285, I would like to see 300fps.

Correction: The field limit oddly is 292fps.

Gave a good rules speech, I have played for 13 yrs so I kinda just sit back, but from what I could tell it was a good job for first timers.

They were not huge on enforcing bunkering rules. Someone had a negative experience below with that. I like it, I think surrender or die is for newbs and cowards, my opinion is not everyones. It made the day fun, more importantly, they DID enforce overshooting, which is more important and wrong. Bunkering is a tactic. Overshooting is uncessary and mean and ruins ppls experiences.

Prices were average to good. They had some drinks/food to buy and some basic items at the proshop. They do order pizza. I think they could take this facility to the next level with a few improvements to "jungle" field mentioned above and a more extensive proshop. You get two free field passed with an average priced case, air is 10 daily for compressed, $15 for Co2 or indivdual fills.

Rules were good. Field changes often, wish gametype did.

Players - Wide variety young to old, first time to NPPL pro, I only knew he was pro cause I knew him personally, they were not letting tournament players play the walk-ons. Kudos for this.

Facilities were suitable, nothing too impressive or dissapointing.

Overall Operation had reasonable prices, great fields (minus jungle), good turnout, and staff was so-so, the owner and Mario were better that the others, and I don't not have expeirence with the refs doing the private parties.

Correction: Pretty please order a semi truck full of sand and fill in the mud in jungle and urban.... It would not only keep players and there equipment clean and make the field more fun and less dangerous, but filling in the natrual greens with sand will truly make Jungle look like a Jungle and might change it to a favored field...

Anonther net need be added behind urban so you can get there without a mask. Hot days, heavy breathing, would be favored.
Last edited on Sunday, May 24th, 2009 at 5:48 pm PST
 

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