The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion below.
Period of Field Use:
May 29th, 2010
More than 5 years
Other Fields in the Area:
No other fields in Pa but have played fields in VA and NC. As far as actual playing fields, Skirmish was the best but lacked in everything elde.
I have wanted to play at Skirmish for several years now. I finally got to play this past Saturday. The first thing that I can say is that the prices of paint is ridiculous. One case is $100. The paint that they are using is Diablo Formula 13, which sells for about $50 a case. When I got my case, it was full of golf balls and Easter eggs. When I went to exchange it, the lady at the counter gave me an attitude about it and didn’t want to swap it for some good paint at first. Evidently this is some really thick-shelled paint because it was hardly breaking for anyone and no one I spoke with liked it. Throughout the day, even the refs were saying that it was crappy paint. When I went to chrono my marker was shooting at 240. The guy looked at me and said ok that’s good. When I asked him if that was as high as I could go he said “Oh you wanna go higher? Well 280 is the limit.” Now I’m not trying to hurt anyone by shooting hot because safety is a huge thing for me, and 280 is fine but if your shooting 240ish the paint wont break or go as far. The refs just were not on top of things either. While a game was going on the two of them would stand beside each other and talk instead of taking opposite ends of the field and were not paying attention to what was going on. When we played the Tippmann Castle I was a defender that got shot out so they told me to come back in as an attacker. I worked myself into the castle and as I was moving around the refs were huddled in a circle talking to each other. One of them turned and asked if I was an attacker now. When I nodded he said, “Shows how much we pay attention” and went back to talking. There was another team there that apparently plays there a lot. However, they would not play fair and would wipe. We would have to yell and scream for paintchecks before the refs would check them or either we would just go check them ourselves. We brought this to the attention of the refs but they did nothing about it. At the end of the day while we were packing up, all the refs were in the parking lot getting drunk and cussing every other word (which happened all day by the way). One of them even asked me if I wanted anything stronger than a drink. I’ll leave that to the imagination as to what she was talking about. Skirmish does have a little scam going. When you check and get your paint they tell you that you go out and play a few games then come back in. What they don’t tell you is that you don’t come back to where you check-in. After you check-in they take you to a staging area about a half-mile away from the parking lot. They don’t tell you to bring your coolers and such. When you get out there they have concession stands set up. It’s like a paintball theme park with the prices to match. They do however offer shuttle rides on a golf cart…for $2 a ride.
On the other hand the actual fields were great. Especially the Tippmann Castle. Also, my father hurt his back and had to layout the rest of the day. They did keep a check on him and even gave him a free ride back to the car.
Overall, Skirmish was a big disappointment. It is the one field I have always wanted to play at and I drove 8 hours to get there. The only reason I would ever go back is if my father wanted to go because he missed out on playing the Tippmann Castle. Other than that I would not waste my time or money.
Im giving it a 5 because the actual playing fields were really good and thats what carried the rating.
Dispute: Skirmish does not have a scam going at all. Yes the paint is expensive. How do you think that they pay there staff or do the up keep on those awesome playing fields?. i have been there numerous times and evertime we have been told to make sure we have everything from the car we are going to need because of the long walk in. even if we forgot something the majority of the refs will give you time during the break to go and retreive what ever it is that you forgot. So that does not lay on the staff for you not having what you need. As for the drunk and being loud thing, are you sure they were drunk? the times i have been up there yes the staff would hang out in the parking lot and have a few drinks and be loud but they were never drunk. they always seemed to be very sober and respectful. As for the judge offering you somethig stronger than beer, maybe it was ment as a friendly gesture for you to come and join them. I have seen players out there afterwards bsing with off duty staff maybe having a few drinks. heck one time we even offered our ref a few beers when we saw him in the parking lot. Point is i dont think that they were drunk but just having a good time. no the cursing i will say i can see being a problem especially if there were kids around.
Dispute: True the paint prices are high, but thats what keeps them going. From insurance to staff salaries to field up keep, it all costs money to keep a place as large as Skirmish going. Speaking of size, I've heard people there say that Skirmish has over 700 acres. Apply a little common sense when your at a place thats that large. Of course your probably going to walk to a more central locatgion that the check-in building. Did it ever occur to you to ask if you were coming back to the front during the day. Yet you take to your keyboard to blast Skirmish for running a racket. Please! If you had problems with the refs for your group, all you had to do was ask to speak to someone in management and I guarentee you that something would have been done that very day. I've been playing at Skirmish for years, and I've had some bad refs, but when it was brought to managements attention, it was ALWAYS solved. I know Skirmish's General Manager and she lives and breathes customer service and ALWAYS has. As far as the people drinking in the parking lot, so what! I don't imagine it's an easy job dealing with 30 or 40 players all day long, and if they were in the parking lot, they were probably off the clock. It must be a wonderful thing to be on such high moral ground to complain about what someone is doing to unwind after a hard days work.
Ok yes I know that you need to pay the bills but that does not mean that you have to completly double the price of paint. If you are going to charge that much then it needs to be a better grade of paint. I say this being a field owner myself so Im not just blowing smoke. And yes we did ask if we would be returning to the parking lot and what stuff we needed to bring out to the field with us. The answer we were given was that we would be returning to the "PARKING AREA" after about every 4 games or so and that we could leave our stuff there. Obviously that isnt the case and Skirmish falls short on filling in all their employees with the correct information. I dont understand how the 2 people that posted comments dont see the drinking as a big deal. Im not saying that going out for a drink or a few after work is wrong because Ive done it myself. But there is a place for that and the parking lot of your employeer is not that place. Even off duty you still represent that company just through association. And by the way when someone is stumbling over to you when they are walking and slurring their words not to mention the smell of alcohol pooring off them, them yes they are drunk. The one ref that offered me more than a beer was not asking me to join them because she had already come right out and asked that. Yes sabre ION I do hold myself to high morals.