Electronics for New Players?

[MINDofSIN]

I've seen a lot of people recommend electro blowbacks to newer players and I can't understand why.

Pros of a Mechanical Blowback over an Electronic Blowback

1. Cheaper. Gun itself and paint. You should gain a solid addiction before dumping too much money on paint.

2. One less thing to break.

3. Takes more skill. With a hair trigger, it's easier to sit back and shoot than to actually move.

[CapnCrunch]

True. I never would recommend an electro to a newb.

[*-Ôéél-*]

I agree with MINDofSIN, Electros are pointless for newbs, unless someone really likes the sport, and plans to play in tournies, I really dont see the point to buy an electro for rec-ball (only to please your ego :D)...


Thanks,
Ôéél

[Ebonclaw]

1). It's not that much cheaper. A Black Dragun for instance is $120. A Spyder Shutter still goes for $150.

2). Actually, it's one more thing to break. An electronic hybrid is simpler than a mechanical gun. You notice how an e-trigger only has one pin for the sear? The mechanical frames have 3 or four for the internals and springs and widgets in that frame. And you'd have to do something really abysmally stupid (like take the grip frame off and pour water in it) to damage the electronics.

3). I dunno....I think developing cover fire skills are important and learning when to dump paint is equally important. Plus, I think starting with a manual as a newb and getting wasted on a field of electros is discouraging. I want to start with something that helps me stay in the game long enough to build skill with it.

I understand the argument that it doesn't teach anything, but if you're not able to compete long enough to build any skills, it's pointless. Electros help make up for the lack of experience and allow newbs to hold their own while they work on skills.

And I never understood the "electros waste paint" thing. I figure you just take the paint you are intending on shooting out on the field. If you want to play five games and have 1000 rounds, no one is making you take 800 rounds and shoot them all the first game. Just go out there with your standard hopper...you can't shoot more than it holds if you don't have pods, right? You want to learn fire discipline? Put 50 rounds in your hopper and go out. It's a great way to learn to make shots count with an electronic gun.

If I were a newb again, I can honestly say an E-hybrid would be my first gun.

[MINDofSIN]

Well, I don't think having a mechanical gun will get you wasted. You don't really even need a different style of play. It's 3-4 balls in the air instead of 7-8.

Assuming they are playing against people that have about the same experience as them.

I always carry more paint than I need. Even when I play stock I take a ton of 10 round tubes. For me(when I started and borrowed a friends), and I think most people, electronic guns make shooting until the other guys bunker falls apart easier than flanking.

[bam87]

I think it'd be a good idea for new players to get pumps for their first guns. it helps them work on shooting accuratly, and it helps them conserve paint. so when they upgrade to a semi (electronic or mechanical) those skills will still kinda stick with them

[CapnCrunch]

I think a newb should start out with something like a Tippmann, for a few reasons:

1) Its cheap. You can buy it in a package with everything a newb needs for around 160.

2) Its durable. To this day I've never seen a Tippmann break, only a bolt o-ring every once in a great, great while.

3) Its easy cleaning. To clean it, you simpply unscrew it or just drop some oil on the bolt through the feed hole also works.

[X_Brolly_X]

I think it realy depends on the person... If the newb REALY likes paintball and get addicted quickly, then an electro would be great. If its just a casual thing, then mby a pump or an older spyder, or tippmann. But with an electro hybrid (Like mine) you can upgrade the monkey snot out of it and have a tourny level marker. So I would check the dedication levle of the newb before recomending a marker.

[AK47]

u need to learn how to play before you ever get a electro, isn't that obvious?:confused:

[Darkstarops]

:| I am sory I have to disagree on what you guys think. I know majority rules and I am going to get my mouth slapped for saying so. :laugh: Electros are good guns. They are easy to maintain and clean. Great for newbs to play with. Plus newbs would probably use the extra features more then us intermdieate players. I mean come on! How many of us actually use 2 or 3 round burst! Newbs would have totaly fun with those moddes. They would love the hair trigger and everything! I have a nieghbor whos 7 and just bought his first marker. A dragun electro or smoething like that! He loves it to death. Because it is an Electro he gives it special care and treats it like its a Angel or something. He got mad at me when I held it and got fingerprints on the barrel.! It teaches Newbs responsability and stuff. Plus some electros are actually pretty decent like mine! I got a zap zxs 600-e for 120.00 brand new! So far its the best investment I ever had! Definetly not the only gun though!

[Paint Bulley]

YOU CANT use 2 or 3 round bursts at fields, and if you read posts by the new people. they're always like,

"and i wouldnt use full auot too much" ;)

retardation....


putting out a lot of paint is the LEAST of their worries, and you have to be downright stupid to break a basic spyder.

---AK47 - agreed

---brolly_X - no you cant not really. not if your gona be serious, that's why kingman pays their team sometimes up to $50k for big events... so they'll use them


----- ebon - shutters come w/ $30 worth of trash.

if you are able to screw up pin frames, you shouldnt be playing with a marker. IT IS NOT A TOY
an electro will not allow you to hold your own

gahhhhhh
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Darkstarops]

Thats your opinion:eyes:

[AK47]

Originally posted by Darkstarops
Thats your opinion:eyes: What were trying to say is, players need the basic skills to beable to play, without them not even the best marker in the world will help them. I think a blowback is good enough to start out with, I got a STO as my first marker, I played with it and noticed I needed something faster with a shorter pull. I traded my STO for a Timmy and now I figured with the basic skills I have my marker is an asset to me, I can lay down paint or move up while give my own cover fire. its not the marker its what you do with it. Thats the very first rule of PB.

[Darkstarops]

OK AK47 your right on the dot! :nod:

[-=ReD-hAzE=-]

of course AK's on the dot... AK is the dot master...

[AK47]

Originally posted by -=ReD-hAzE=-
of course AK's on the dot... AK is the dot master... being the dot master makes me cool doesn't it? yup, Im the offcial dot master of pbr:P

BTW, Red Haze is the first person to ever be In AK's sig! That makes him better then you!:D

[Blue~Dragon]

i think if a newb really wants a electo go for it but if they do get one with an adjustible trigger pull so they they can pick what they like or if there using to much paint make it longer

[-=ReD-hAzE=-]

Originally posted by AK47
being the dot master makes me cool doesn't it? yup, Im the offcial dot master of pbr:P

BTW, Red Haze is the first person to ever be In AK's sig! That makes him better then you!:D

muhahaha... fear the bunny god... for he is better still..!
look at the shifting colors of him...be amazed...


no matter how i adjust my trigger... i always end up fanning it...:rolleyes: