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[TLplus84]

wassup guys. I'm trying to decide whether to get the Free Flow cocker, the Dark cocker, or the RT Mag pro. I'm getting a 68 cu. inch 4500 psi Nitroduck system with it, but im haveing a real dilema on which gun to get. I'm leaning more on the cocker, and i don't want to get an electro gun at all.

[Richy_C]

y no electro? o wel, i preffer the free flow, i shot one and they are smoooooth, but i hate straight back cocker triggers

[Counterfeit]

The FF.
I would suggust over that though is getting a stock cocker and upgrading it. It will perform much better and will be custom to fit your needs. Even though free flows are nice and have good parts on them, they still do have some stock parts and some of the parts they put on are not the best imho.

[TLplus84]

i like the sliding trigger on the cockers. :D:D i donno why i don't want an electro..

[TLplus84]

how bout the STO? are they nice?

[Counterfeit]

STO's are nice but all your really geting is a little better than stock barrel, ano and milling.

[Richy_C]

yeah, and orange freeflow look awsome!

[TLplus84]

it's becasue i really don't want to go through all the trouble of things like trigger jobs, custom ano, new frames..etc etc etc...i just want a really good gun and just change maybe the pneumatics...which one is cheaper FF or DC?

[Richy_C]

i think the dc, but i still prefer free flow

[Counterfeit]

Originally posted by TLplus84
it's becasue i really don't want to go through all the trouble of things like trigger jobs, custom ano, new frames..etc etc etc...i just want a really good gun and just change maybe the pneumatics...which one is cheaper FF or DC?

DC.

A cocker might not be the gun for you if you don't want to upgrade it. Part of the joy of a cocker is getting every little part different and the gun being your own creation.

They way I look at it is that free flows, DC, ect are the lazy mans cocker.

[TLplus84]

no no i enjoy very much upgrading guns..i actually get paid by some of my friends to upgrade their guns..but i donno..i've grown lazy....haha i still want a cocker very much. Maybe i'll get Team Image to make me a custom Image Cocker...

[Richy_C]

naw, they l;ok sswwweeeeeettt

[TLplus84]

Image cockers are nice as crap. They are 850 for an Image cocker with a boomstick and Black Ice Reg..

[A damn fool]

What abou the bob long 32 degrees cockers, those look sweet. I thought u said u were gonna get a dark angel before? Oh yeah, the Sonic cocker looks prety sweet.

[Nemessis]

A dark and a ff are essentially the same gun except the body has been changed and the bolt and valve are different other than that everything is almost the same

[TLplus84]

LOL naw not the Dark Angel that's too much...i sed Dark Cocker

[A damn fool]

i guess i wasnt paying attention, or jsut forgot, i do that alot, check oout the sonic cocker though, its sweet. or at least it looks good. . heres a link
http://www.macdev.net/sonic_cocker.htm

[Predator2]

That sonic cocker looks really really good. Get that or a custom. I recommend those two.

[TLplus84]

naw i'm gettin an Image Cocker :D:D custom made by Team Image hehe

[Predator2]

Do you know where i can view it? I like looking at really cool guns :-)

[Predator2]

The ANS cocker i heard is awesome too.

[TLplus84]

http://www.actionzone-paintball.com/

go to the online store section, then click on markers. it's the first one.

[zombie master]

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~rchopra/

tl go here i agree with Counterfeit. go for something you can customize. i mean if you what to make it easier in the long run get an unfinished body or a center feed body. i like the side feed personaly but puting 700 to 800 out for a cocker of the bat is a bit much unless u like and no everthing the gun has to offer. but most important with pb guns is to get the one that makes you feel good so if a ff does go for it who cares what me and Counterfeit think.

[TLplus84]

i REALLY like the Image cocker, and it still has room to be customized, so i'm going to get that one. ALso, it's not too shabby on looks. I don't like vert feed cuz it blocks my vision..:D

[Counterfeit]

Originally posted by TLplus84
i REALLY like the Image cocker, and it still has room to be customized, so i'm going to get that one. ALso, it's not too shabby on looks. I don't like vert feed cuz it blocks my vision..:D

If you really like the looks and features go for it. From what you said it does have some really good parts stock.

[zombie master]

where can i see a pic of that cocker

[TLplus84]

yep it does. I've seen a couple in action and i really like it..is timing easy? i've heard it can be a pain..

[TLplus84]

i have a link to the pic further up the thread.

[Counterfeit]

Timing is very easy.

Like I always say if you treat your cocker right it will treat you even better. Just take the time to learn all the parts in the gun and what they do and you will be fine.

[TLplus84]

hrmm..why do you have to time a cocker? im not a newie..i just dont' have much expirience with cockers..all the one's ive used were alrady timed

[zombie master]

how much is it just wondering

[TLplus84]

they sed they'd do it for 850 for the gun, Black Ice Reg an Boomstick which is pretty good..they might have updated the prices thogh

[Counterfeit]

Originally posted by TLplus84
hrmm..why do you have to time a cocker? im not a newie..i just dont' have much expirience with cockers..all the one's ive used were alrady timed

Well are you familar with how they oporate?

I assume you don't. A cocker has to fire, than re pump (cock) itself all in one trigger pull. The front pnuematics are what recock the gun. You have to have the hammer lug and 3-way set up right so it does not cock before it can fire or vice versa.

That may have just confuse you so the best explanation for timing is here http://www-personal.umich.edu/~rchopra/ goto autococker info sheet. It has all the info on timing and upgrades.

[TLplus84]

yeah i know how they operate..i just don't get the point of timing..:P

[antiramie]

I know u didnt list this, but have u seen the BBT Eclipse Mag?....talk about sweeeeeeett. I dont know why but Cockers dont appeal to me at all. Call me weird, i know that cockers perform great, but looks also mean something (not trying to insult all u cocker owners...especially counterfeit. I know hed whoop my *** wit those skullz if i talked crap about his gun) :)

[Richy_C]

no, the skanline tux mag is by far the coolest non emag mag

[Counterfeit]

Originally posted by antiramie
especially counterfeit. I know hed whoop my *** wit those skullz if i talked crap about his gun) :)


You daaam straight! :)

[TLplus84]

lol :D