20 ft. Rule, good or bad.

[Paint Bulley]

HAve you ever had to play with this?

I hate this rule. It is not like you will die if shot with in 20 ft. a minute later is someone asks you where you were shot you won't even remember.

I got shot at real close one time on the leg. when the game was over the only reason I knew which leg got shot was because of the pink mark.

What do you think of this STUPID rule? Are you lucky and have never had to play with it?

I want to know if I am the only one. Give me some responses.

[KoryB]

I play in the woods close to my house so we dont play that rule.

[krasher]

No, but I try not to bunker newbies. I try to get them to at least surrender if I come up on them from behind and stuff.

[DraXsuS]

hERE, dont care about the 20ft rules, its 5 ft instead

[MasterofBush]

3" rule is betta

[iipaintballer]

20 ft is pretty far. usually some of my firefights are between 10-15 ft apart. Close bunker movemnets.

[KoRnMaN]

It should be 1o feet otherwise your mask will get cracked fairly easy under 10 feet.

[MuckRaker]

Our field used to have a three foot rule. The thing is, all the refs have to know about it and enforce it consistently. A 20 foot rule is pretty outlandish. But, rules like this are good for new players and very young players. For more experienced players, and tournament players, it's a waste of time.

[fate tempter]

the fewer the rules the better

[KoRnMaN]

Well said.

[spray_and_pray]

i think any distance rule is stupid yuou should be able to take the shot

[Super Nick]

I've heard of rules where if you tag them with your barrel, they're out. Try sneaking up on someone that closely once!

[RanchDip]

Actually, I believe it's reccomended by PB/mask manufacturers to not shoot anyone closer than 20ft. I don't have a case with me at home (damn tourney got cancelled), but I'll look when I go to work.

But other than that...I wubz bunkering, so I hate the 20ft rule.

[BBz0015]

I think that it should be a 10 foot rule... 20 is too much...

From 20 feet, and in... whooo... That crap hurts like anything...

[elTwitcho]

Well, it's like this, If I'm playing against other players of equal experience levels, anything goes. I dont mind being shot from a barrel next to my skin, because I know that sometimes it just happens. It aint fun, but it don't bother me much either. However, against newbies, things are different. I try my very best to go easy on the newer players and NEVER bunker them because it may turn them off from the sport. Sometimes you gotta go outta your way for the newer guys, just because in the end you'll feel better about yourself. For isntance-

Last monday after my buddy Ryan (Krasher) had left area 51, 2 guys who also play tourneys showed up. We were against a rental and two "spyder-clone" owners, one of which was wearing blue jeans to play in. We set the teams up as the three of us tourney guys against the newbies. BUT, we intentionally let them win. Nobody hammered down on the trigger after them (but boy did we want to :)) and let em move around the field to build some confidence. The second game we told em we'd stick to a small corner of the field, and let em dig us out. Being a front guy, this goes against EVERYTHING I stand for, but what the hey. They won and I got a back full of welts for my trouble. At the end of the day (night actually) they thanked us for some good games and left, and to be honest I feel really good about what I'd done. Sure I lost one of the games, but so what? Someitmes if you gotta change the rules a bit for new players, even if it is to your disadvantage, it's better to help the new players than to turn em off paintball. just my 2 cents

[blake_sw]

20 ft rule = No bunkering... = SAD BLAKE!

Hopefully all you other front players will agree. In most of my games, I have 30 ft shoot outs with players for brief periods, until his back player gets out and it's HAMMER TIME.

[Thor the Mighty]

we have a 5 foot rule! it is cool because it's not too close, and not to far

[blake_sw]

Now that's encouraging. I would like to be the same way..but when I see some of the thing these Redneck newbies do at my field, I'm disgusted. I don't play to my full potential, I just keep working my way up until WAM, bunkered. They think they're all that, time to get your butt kicked, simple.
BUT..If it's a bunch of cool guys that I know, I'll play easy on em, won't get as close and I'll definitely (sp) shoot less, which is next to nothing considering I rarely empty my hopper.

[KoRnMaN]

When ever im shot underm the 20 foot rule something bad always happens. WOuld you be willing to take the chance if somebody had marble hard 12 month old paint and shot in the goggles from 1 inch a way? You can pretty much see what would happend. Would you take the chance having somebody crank up there gun behind your back and shoot you in the balls 5 times? I have had 1 revelution cracked in half and 2 regular vl 200's shot through under the 20 foot rule. Also I have had my old spectra (not the flex) shot and have indent marks 3 millimeters deep. Now why I ask risk it? For all it could cost you. Atleast play with the some foot rule but I have had some fun with out it like when I ran up to a guy and bunkered him with no paint I pointed my barrle right at his throat and said surrender (and he did) then when he was walking off im like haha biatch I have no paint that was the day I got respect anyway my 3 cents. hehehe

[AllOleander]

maybe you guys should play kidna like airsoft...if you tap them on the back w/ your barrel, its a knife kill, and they are automattilcy dead..but if you cant reach, them or cant get close enough w/o them turning..then just give em a 1shot 1 kill in the foot or something

that rule is just so ppl wont get big welts so they never come back cuase it hurts too much

public fields enforce this rule becuase they want business from newbies, so they want to make sure that the newbies dont get hit so hard..or bunkered

hah

[KoRnMaN]

Some people are just stupid and dont think that where you shoot them could injure them like othere than shooting them in the mask lets shoot them in the foot. then it would be ok to not have a 20 foot rule.:)

[Xander]

I think that a 5ft rule is ok in the forest(not the 20 ft rule that is unsensable) but the 5 ft rule is not even cool in speedball unless as eltwitcho said when you are playing with newbies.

[AllOleander]

Originally posted by KoRnMaN
Some people are just stupid and dont think that where you shoot them could injure them like othere than shooting them in the mask lets shoot them in the foot. then it would be ok to not have a 20 foot rule.:)

what? were you uh..trying to make fun of me..cuase i dont get it..but im tired so i cant read well :)

btw what do you guys think of the airsoft knife kill rule? if you can touch them w/ your barrel then its a knife kill and their dead, if u cant, shoot them..

what do you think?

[KoRnMaN]

No im not trying to make fun of you it really had nothing other than the shooting part I ment it as if we have newbs at our fields some are stupid and dont shoot in proper places for that close of range and can really hurt people.

[orryn]

We have the surrender rule at my field. If you get within 15-20 ft of a person, you have to give them a chance to surrender, if there is no response, then it is anything goes. However, the refs tell use to take only one or two close range shots, and not at the head. I like the surrender rule because it allows newbie players, and little kids to avoid getting hurt.

[FireViper]

I guess you have to judge it by each situation if you about 15-20 ft away and you know or think a player won't surrender shoot him; if you know he'll accept give him the chance if they maek any move that doesn't look like they're going to plug their gun shoot him; finally if your close enough where if you reached you could touch him(without getting yourself shot) offer surrender, tell them they're dead(if the disagree prove them wrong), or barrel-tag them

[MuckRaker]

Originally posted by elTwitcho

Last monday after my buddy Ryan (Krasher) had left area 51, 2 guys who also play tourneys showed up. We were against a rental and two "spyder-clone" owners, one of which was wearing blue jeans to play in. We set the teams up as the three of us tourney guys against the newbies. BUT, we intentionally let them win. Nobody hammered down on the trigger after them (but boy did we want to :)) and let em move around the field to build some confidence. The second game we told em we'd stick to a small corner of the field, and let em dig us out. Being a front guy, this goes against EVERYTHING I stand for, but what the hey. They won and I got a back full of welts for my trouble. At the end of the day (night actually) they thanked us for some good games and left, and to be honest I feel really good about what I'd done. Sure I lost one of the games, but so what? Someitmes if you gotta change the rules a bit for new players, even if it is to your disadvantage, it's better to help the new players than to turn em off paintball. just my 2 cents

Now I'm really disillusioned. :confused:

[AllOleander]

Originally posted by KoRnMaN
No im not trying to make fun of you it really had nothing other than the shooting part I ment it as if we have newbs at our fields some are stupid and dont shoot in proper places for that close of range and can really hurt people.

k thats cool man ;)

i get what your saying now and ur right..stupid newbs

[abeaucha]

MMMUUUHAHAHAHAAHAH heres an evil plan if playing 20 ft rule: get next to someone on the other team and rip on them they couldn't shoot you it would be hillarious. it would only work if they were the only one left though. I think if you get 20 ft. from someone they should just be out. Actually I hate the whole rule but thats OK.

[xtremepballman27]

it dosent hurt anyway

[KoRnMaN]

Have you been shot in the balls form point blank range then you may want a extra 3 feet or so.

[elTwitcho]

Originally posted by MuckRaker
Originally posted by elTwitcho

Last monday after my buddy Ryan (Krasher) had left area 51, 2 guys who also play tourneys showed up. We were against a rental and two "spyder-clone" owners, one of which was wearing blue jeans to play in. We set the teams up as the three of us tourney guys against the newbies. BUT, we intentionally let them win. Nobody hammered down on the trigger after them (but boy did we want to :)) and let em move around the field to build some confidence. The second game we told em we'd stick to a small corner of the field, and let em dig us out. Being a front guy, this goes against EVERYTHING I stand for, but what the hey. They won and I got a back full of welts for my trouble. At the end of the day (night actually) they thanked us for some good games and left, and to be honest I feel really good about what I'd done. Sure I lost one of the games, but so what? Someitmes if you gotta change the rules a bit for new players, even if it is to your disadvantage, it's better to help the new players than to turn em off paintball. just my 2 cents

Now I'm really disillusioned. :confused:

Muck, dont worry man, I'm still an A-hole 90% of the other time, I musta been feeling a bit off that day :)

[KoRnMaN]

hehehe good coverup story.

[Xander]

Good, I was worried after eltwitchos first reply, but now I know he is the man we all know, the 90% a-hole :D. J/K