this is bullsh***

[pbjunkie06]

i got suspended from my school today for drawing a picture of my cocker in art class... has this sh*** iver happened to anyone and the next two days i have 5 100 point tests andthat basically means i fail every class

[Jaster]

I know I've been out of school for a while but how the hell do you get suspended for drawing a picture? Was is because you drew a picture of a gun? What were you supposed to be drawing in art class?

[Azn_gansta]

argue the suspension mabye u can get off on a techincality

[MrScorcher]

Even if he wasnt supposed to be drawing a paintball marker the most that could/should have happened would be a detention or perhaps a bad grade for whatever project you were working on. I agree with you totally.

[Killious]

That is extremely stupid. Do drama students get suspended because they act out someone killing someone??? Do people in chorus get suspended because they sing a song about death??? I think not. Personally i believe all of those dumb ***** principles or deans or whoever suspended you should get their panties unjammed from their ***** and look at society. Just because someone draws a picture of a paintball marker doesn't mean they are going to shoot up a school. What are they going to do next???? Suspend someone who paints a picture of a mytholigical sword battle???

[Jeffo2448]

That is pure bullshi*t. Next time, say "Can I draw a picture of a soccer ball or football or will I get suspended?" (what I'm trying to say is that you weren't drawing a paintball gun to make it look like you wanted to kill someone....) Anyway, in my computer class last year, I would look at the PB guns all the time on the web and all the teacher said was "I don't really like those" but I never got in trouble.

[teamfortman]

Fight it, gets your parents to help, also check these out and possibly send your story to this website
What happened to you man is total crap
this is a pretty funny site.


"Our horrible Children" (http://www.neoflux.com/content/horrible/)

[Urban-Coyote]

i tried to talk myself out of a inschool for swearing(didn`t work). what is socitiy? who are these people who decides whats "right" and "wrong." ect.

you should be able to talk ur way outta that. its not even a gun anyways.

[ImpLin]

Threaten lawsuit, Defemation of character. Under circumstances like this schools should be dragged to the courts if need be.

[holyhandgrenade]

i think thats a violation of freedom of expression, or should be anyway, just threaten to sue, contact the ACLU and if possible hire jonny cockrin ( im sure i butchered the spelling of that name, you get the idea tho)

in any case, i hope it all works out, and youre right that is bull****

what was there reasoning for suspending you?

[zero skillet]

pbjunkie06, take our advice and fight the suspension with your parents. When I was in high school 11th grade ( I graduate last June). I got suspended for having a pocket knife in school. Trust me I really got in deep **** with the school, they were thinking of reporting it to the police and everything. My mom went to my school spoke to the administration, started a scene (like everyone in school the next day was like damn I heard what ur mom did =) ) . Point is I was supposed to get suspended for 2 weeks even possibly get arrested. Instead I only got indoor suspension for 3 days and no police report. :D

As a bonus the principal didnt even put it on my school record, He said bcuz I had good grades (4 A's and 2 B's) In the last semester/

[woolf]

in my art class i can draw paintball gun i just have to call them markers:laugh:

[AK47]

go to ur councillor and talk about appealing it

[i like tictacs]

Considering my art teacher is the head of the paintball club at my school...

[The Terminator]

Threaten to sue, and if they still go ahead with suspension, contact your local news station, and try to go public with it. I'm sure lawyers would be jumping all over this case, asking you to let them defend you...

Chances are you won't have to goto court or anything though, cuz the school will chicken out when threatened...

[ANS ShooteR]

You got Hosed, You got Hosed!:pissed:

[tonysk83]

geez, some of u are over reacting, first dont go tell a news station, go talk to your principal about it with your parents, also make sure the art teacher is there, if that doesnt work, you COULD contact a newspaper, but hey life isnt always fair, LIVE WITH IT!

[FlyBoyNZ]

which cocker??? LMAO

[GIZMO8Z]

That happened to me too, but I didn't get suspended.

In my advanced art class we were supposed to find a PIC in a magazine and blow it up to life size.

I chose a PIC of a JT flex-7 IZE Glacier mask in one of my old PB2X magazines. It took me 3 weeks to draw and it looked awesome, just like a real life picture of the mask. When it came time to hand it in, the teacher looked at me with such a dirty look and I could tell he was saying to himself "How could this kid draw something as stupid as a paintball mask." I was pissed.

Then later in the year he brought in an airbrush and offered to airbrush anything anyone wanted. I asked if I could bring in a hopper and he said sure thing. So when the day came, I brought in my 12v and he confiscated it, saying it was "weapons paraphernalia." Because of my *** art teacher I had to have a conference with my principal, luckily he's a cool guy and he let me go and give me my hopper back.

[punkerx1]

heres wut u do...go to the local police, find out if it is legal to draw a PAINTBALL MARKER, wich im almost posotive it is, get the inormation you need, then challenge the school to a court session, im sure as hell they will back down on your susspension.

[xLiLHockeyFreak]

Originally posted by GIZMO8Z
That happened to me too, but I didn't get suspended.

In my advanced art class we were supposed to find a PIC in a magazine and blow it up to life size.

I chose a PIC of a JT flex-7 IZE Glacier mask in one of my old PB2X magazines. It took me 3 weeks to draw and it looked awesome, just like a real life picture of the mask. When it came time to hand it in, the teacher looked at me with such a dirty look and I could tell he was saying to himself "How could this kid draw something as stupid as a paintball mask." I was pissed.

Then later in the year he brought in an airbrush and offered to airbrush anything anyone wanted. I asked if I could bring in a hopper and he said sure thing. So when the day came, I brought in my 12v and he confiscated it, saying it was "weapons paraphernalia." Because of my *** art teacher I had to have a conference with my principal, luckily he's a cool guy and he let me go and give me my hopper back.


How did he know its a paintball mask, and how did he know it was a paintball hopper? to people who dont know paintball, they probably think its some weird object...



neways, today in art class I drew a picture of an impulse with a hopper and barrel and trigger and all like a real impulse, and i had a drop on it and everything, just no tank yet, and my art teacher walked by and said "very nice drawing!" because I used good shading and shadowing..... I was scared for a moment, i doubt she knew what it was, neways thats really stupud how you are getting suspended, by the way, how long are u suspended for? today and the next 2 days???

[punkerx1]

its always fun to ask peopel that think paintball is dangerous if they have played golf.....if they say yes, say u took more of a risk at injury swining your club than playing pb.

[GIZMO8Z]

Well, for the mask I had to copy the entire JT mas ad, so It said JT Paintball right next to it. As for the hopper, I have a PBReview sticker on the back end of it(the orange guy shooting a cocker) so that sorta gave it away.

[NCProckett]

Usually people who don't like paintball have never played it.
Just show up for school anyways. What are they going to do? Stop you from learning?

And ya, before you go to the press or whatever, be sure to argue it with the people involved. Just pace it

[BravoLeader4]

dont worry it happened to me last year when i was drawing my teammates and my gun in a group...stupid art teacher

[zero skillet]

NO NO NO NO! dont take NCProcketts advice!

"Just show up for school anyways. What are they going to do? Stop you from learning?" - NCProckett

If u show up when suspended you can seriously be arrested and judging from the way ur school reacted about the drawing . Its a sure bet ull get taken away in handcuffs. They already got a Pic of u int he office that says ARMED and DANGEROUS i bet. :laugh:

[Cadet2005]

Okay, first of all, you should suck it up and deal with it. Why? Why do you draw a destructive object (which the paintball gun is classified under FBI/ATF regulations, consult the NRA's website and you will find a copy of the said law I am referring to...will have to read a ways, it isn't directly handled) so it belonged nowhere in a school environment without okay from the teacher. You drawing that was probably perceived as a potential terroristic threat (heck, one of my stories for a creative writing class used a combination of two names of students from school, friends of mine, and they thought I was going to blow up the school, called in the cops and OSI (I went to an Air Force school) to investigate, lawyer says it is within their right because it is perceived and that is all that matters) and as stated, percecption is all that really matters for something like that. I ask this: why draw a paintball gun? There are thousands upon thousands of other objects of which you could have chosen to draw...to me, it sounds like you are obsessed, but that is neither here nor there.

I used to draw military figures in art class (three years of it), mostly guys I saw in old photographs, altering here and there to match my mindset. A medic one day, the tired worn-out grunt the next. I got chided for it by the administration but because I never drew the weapon they said there was nothing they could do about it. Something to consider.

[BLANK]

This exact thing hasn't happened to me but I wrote a sign saying "Bomb on bus" and holding it up against the window as we were coming back from a field trip (the movie "Speed" Inspired my moronic brain). Anyways,....my principle found out and wanted to suspended me for a whole week. Well, my dad and I went in to his office the next day and said, "Why take a young 6th grader (lol thats when I did it...stupid and immature) and suspend him form learning for a whole week. Why don't we put him back in school and he can serve community service?" Well, my principle liked the idea and gave me 3 MONTHS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE.

So the moral of this story is there are other options than suspenind a kid from school. To me, suspension is probably the most stupidest Idea EVER! Us kids need to learn, we may lack matureness but you dont have to suspend our learning. Clean up the city.......or town? Whatever:crazy:

[pbjunkie06]

ok heres what happened...

the art teacher assigned us a project to draw anything from 3 different prospectives that make the object look different... so i decided to draw my cocker because with all the front pneus and everything the gun looks different from different prospectives. so i draw my marker... i work on it for almost two weeks and then turn it in and today she got around to grading it and well she had a problem... she thought it was endangering students or some weird shi*t like that
so she takes me to my principle she talks to him about it for like 30 minutes and then they finally call mt parents in and say your son is creating a violent environment for the other students or some **** like that... adn they say im have to go home for the rest of the day today( Wednesday) and cant come back until we come back in the new year which means the rest of the day and 2 more days... and almost all of my classes have major test in the next too days which i will get 0/100 on which means i basically fail the classes.
thats what went down ]

me and my dad are aslo going back in tomorow to argue about it

[NCProckett]

I hope thats not the deal with all the schools

Our high school yearbook just put in an article about my paintball team... teehee

[Peanut]

LOL perfect op for me to tell a funny story. ok, my friend brings paintball magazine to class. in science, a teacher walks up and sees him reading it. she says "hey your not supposed to have those magazines in school!" so my friend says "why not?" and she said "because they have pictures of guns, your not supposed to bring guns to school, so you cant bring a magazine about them." soo my friend says "Well hey were studying volcanoes and i dont think were supposed to bring a volcano to school either, so does that mean youll take up my science book to?" LMAO them the teacher is like "GET OUT IN THE HALL NOW!!!" ahahahaha

[Cadet2005]

pbjunkie, your rationale is seemingly unflawed except one possible exception: history. With events like Columbine and other such tragedies, the schools are REQUIRED to be on heightened alert for small things like that in fear of it happening in their school, that is the affect of history...out of school suspension was not a punishment for us, we did in school suspension (I called it "the hole" or "solitary" because we were put in the largest room of the building in a corner and not allowed out until class ended and no one could speak to us or even look at us nor could we do anything but school work...I got it once when i defended myself in a fight, I was lucky, half a day) and that is what I thought you meant, my fault. Out of school is rather unnecessary but I think disciplinary action is required or else the student body is lible to catch wind and twist rules where they can...perhaps a detention with "easy time", we used to grade papers or something simple like that. It was more of an image thing I reckon but it was effective.

Like I said, it wasn't like you were forced to draw it, you had plenty of other possibilities around you (and for the record I hated perspective drawing and understand the potential need for something that you enjoy because it can be tedious...) so you kind of took a big risk on it...As a former art student I wouldn't have said anything about it unless you were directly advocating violence but I can see where she's coming from and having been there before I see where you're coming from. Recomendation: ask for a better deal but don't try and get off completely, seriously. Take a detention, it won't show up on anything you ever try and do in life really. If you try and get off completely, you might come across not as you wanted. Something to consider...sometimes a calmer head will actually counteract the heads of those fearful ones.

[quejerpwacky]

Originally posted by GIZMO8Z
Then later in the year he brought in an airbrush and offered to airbrush anything anyone wanted. I asked if I could bring in a hopper and he said sure thing. So when the day came, I brought in my 12v and he confiscated it, saying it was "weapons paraphernalia." Because of my *** art teacher I had to have a conference with my principal, luckily he's a cool guy and he let me go and give me my hopper back.

Damn, man. If somebody, (anyone, teacher, priest, old woman, I don't care who), took my hopper away, I'd punch them in the face. Repeatedly.

[Taste_Me]

Well this is kind of funny... I'm sitting in my senior composition class right now and as I type this there is a kid sitting next to me using a medium sized pocket knife to carve a snow flake into a piece of paper. But to the point you would probably want to bring this to the attention of the superintendent

[Jaster]

So in a nutshell you did what you were told. Your teacher just didn't like your object. Too bad for her. If that's the case she should have assigned objects. You have a good argument to beat this. You can't get in trouble for doing what you are told. Fight it. Good luck and win one for paintball!!! :D

[Meph]

Sue them!

[Alexi1337]

"If you don't let me back into school, I swear to god I'll kill every last one of you."

Works like a charm.






And No, don't actually say that.

[Urban-Coyote]

we had a pb magizine during canadian studies. the teacher walks over and starts looking through it and us telling him what markers we have and he like oh thats a nice one and i`d like to have that one.
he cool teacher, copy for 5min and talk for the rest of class.

inschools really suck though.

[Ebonclaw]

Oh boy....well you could always tell the office "I didn't have any violent thoughts until you brought me in here for some purely CRAP reason..."

but that wouldn't be the best option. Realistically, you should probably ask them to prove a paitnball gun is as deadly as the letter openers you KNOW the ofice has. I mean, come on, people have DIED over stab wounds from pencils before, and there has NEVER been a fatality as a result of a paintball gun, let alone a PICTURE of one.

And Cadet, who's fault is it Columbine happened? Gee....let's go out and blame the NRA, let's blame violent video games....
I'm sorry, but when two kids can mass manufacture pipe bombs in a basement without their parents knowing, it's sheer idiocy to NOT blame the parents. I guess you could blame the shooters, but they were as much victims as the people they shot. Do some research behind Columbine, when your school gives preferential treatment to the people that throw bottles and things at your from vehicles, you tend to get kinda upset.

This "school's heightened security level" is pure and utter crap. If someone is going to come to school with an assault rifle and kill anything that moves, no ID badge, metal detector, or suspensions for drawing paintball guns is going to stop him.
I went to a school to see my GF at the time (old, now ex). I was reported as having a switchblade knife, even though it was a zippo lighter that I flipped closed. It took the school 5 hours to find me, and I didn't even know I was being looked for, AND they had video surveillence over EVERY SQUARE FOOT, and two armed officers patrolling....which I had no clue were even there because I never saw them! I blended right in with the rest of the students so incredibly easily, I figured I'd get my butt arrested if I DID go to the office for an ID.
But that's another story, the point is, if I HAD had a deadly, concealable weapon, I would have had 5 hours at my disposal before I was found to wait for my opportunity.
School security is not the problem, you can't keep out an armed, angry student that wants in. He's got the element of surprise, being able to wait until the most inopportune moment, familiarity with where his designated targets are going to be so he can go straight to them without wasting time, and he can do this all at his leisure, whether or not he goes to that school.

A stupid drawing of a paintball gun is NOTHING to be suspended for, CERTAINLY not OSS, and DEFINATLY not for as long or during the time period that was given. if the school really is taking it as seriosuly as they say they are, if they really think he is a threat to the safety of the school, then why are the police not involved?
And really now, if he is intent on shooting up the school, he's REALLY not a happy camper at this point.

[NCProckett]

and there has NEVER been a fatality as a result of a paintball gun, let alone a PICTURE of one.
Do some more research bro... Thats why paintball is banned in some states

[robert91090]

My art eacher yells at me every time i draw paintball guns. I just say something right back to her likesorry I'm not *** and don't want to draw flowers every art class. She makes us draw flowers for everything. One thing don't go if it's in school suspension because if you skip than you just won't be writing all day. I got in school for beating a kid up because he chased me with a chair so one day i just punched him in the face and he didn't get in any trouble and I got 2 day in school suspension and I used 32 pieces of paper writting all day front and back.

[subninja10]

Dude
they are gonna say something that will irritate to no end
Here it is and this is ALWAYS their excuse


"He should have been doing his work along with the rest of the class"

They will always say that

[Ebonclaw]

Originally posted by NCProckett

Do some more research bro... Thats why paintball is banned in some states

Give me some news links, oh informed one.

[tonysk83]

yea i was going to say the same thing, it is banned in some states, becasue a few uninformed law makers and adults dont like the idea of a group of people gathering to "shoot eachother... then there is also the few "stupid" ones that ruin it for everyone by shooting cars, houses, people, and animals those people should jsut be kicked off the face of the earth

[SpyderHunter]

I say we all get together and run around the country and beat the living crap outa people who do stuff like that. And on the crap with the schools SUE THEIR A****. Thank god that I dont have to worry about that crap in my school, all the benefits of being a redneck in south dakota. :D

[pbjunkie06]

ok i finally got this cleared up today. after about an hours worth of arguing with the principle/art teacher... we made a compromise...
instead of having a 2 day OSS i got the rest of today and tomorrow in ISS which isn't bad at all in our school because we just get all the work our teachers were gonna give us and do that, and when were done we just have to read so thats where pb2x will come in handy:D

me and my dad argued that what i did was part of the assignment and im not a crazy kid thats gonna go running around shooting the school up with his cocker, the art teacher was yelling the whole time and saying that it makes her look like a fool and all this crybaby **** so thats why i had to do 1 and a half days of ISS

thats all good for me.. i don't got to listen to the annoying teachers all day (the guy that does ISS is awesome) and now i don't fail all my classes.
in a way ide say thats a victory for paintball!

thanks alot guys

[Cadet2005]

For those of you guys who said "sue the school", or "beat the crap out of everybody who disagrees" (paraphrased, I know), or "just show up", you guys are doing nothing more than reinforcing the idea that teachers and administrators often have about paintballing teenagers: your responses were hasty, foolish, and overaggressive. You can't sue the school, trust me, I had a stronger case for that potential and a lawyer (a daggone good one too) said short of them preventing my graduation I couldn't (and if anybody wants to know the details I'd be happy to tell you in PMs). As for beating the crap out of those who dis paintball or whatever, the Dakota fella, that was plain out idiotic, I don't care where you are from. Ideas like that make us come across as militia group number whatever...we are not sponsoring anarchy and hiding behind the rhetoric of liberals banning paintball was kind of cheesy. As for showing up when you were suspended, again, stupid comment of somebody who was thinking too quick and not realizing that it is considered trespassing and can make things a heck of a lot worse (nice work to whoever pointed that out later). Nobody thought that maybe the teacher had a reason to be upset, that maybe she felt threatened by the presence of a firearm in a drawing...it is our responsibility to show respect and regard to other's feelings and perceptions...Like I said, I think it goes to show that paintball can reinforce overzealous behavior if not contained, and that is why it doesn't belong in school in my opinion.

[trench_raider]

That is just insane...

I never ceases to amaze me what our schools have sunk to.
The events of the recent past are a terrible tragedy, but there is no reason to "PC nuts" and regulate to the lowest common denominator.

I've been out of High School for over 15 years now and looking back I would have been in the same boat. Even back then I was a firearm and military history enthusiasts. I can't recall how many times I took a copy of Smith and Smith's "Small Arms of the World" or One of Ian Hogg's Military gun books to read in my spare time. Imagine what would have happend to you if you had done that...

Even worse on more than one occasion a friend and I used to create cartoons involving the violent (if comical and unrealistsic) deaths of classmates and teachers we disliked. If you tried that today, you would be in therapy!

I can't help that the world has gone to hell, and if you exhibit interests outside what the PC types aprove of, you are in a world of hurt.

"Trench Raider"
angry as hell over this..

RMOG AO BEOG

[Jaster]

Originally posted by pbjunkie06
ok i finally got this cleared up today. after about an hours worth of arguing with the principle/art teacher... we made a compromise...
instead of having a 2 day OSS i got the rest of today and tomorrow in ISS which isn't bad at all in our school because we just get all the work our teachers were gonna give us and do that, and when were done we just have to read so thats where pb2x will come in handy:D

me and my dad argued that what i did was part of the assignment and im not a crazy kid thats gonna go running around shooting the school up with his cocker, the art teacher was yelling the whole time and saying that it makes her look like a fool and all this crybaby **** so thats why i had to do 1 and a half days of ISS

thats all good for me.. i don't got to listen to the annoying teachers all day (the guy that does ISS is awesome) and now i don't fail all my classes.
in a way ide say thats a victory for paintball!

thanks alot guys

I'm glad things kind of worked out for you. I still say that you shouldn't have gotten in trouble in the first place. You were doing what you were told to do. It is not YOUR fault the teacher didn't like the object of your drawing. She did not give assigned objects to draw so that left you with your own imagination and creativity. She should have either assigned objects to draw or approved the objects being used. You are not a mind reader and had no idea that a drawing of a paintball marker would cause so much trouble.

[Cadet2005]

Okay, let me explain this to you since you think it was merely the presence of the paintball gun that caused this: it wasn't just the presence of it, he drew it...big deal, so what? Well, the FBI has given five red flag rules for the schools to watch for and the drawing of violent acts of objects is one of them (and while this [the pb gun part] may be debateable you must be able to see where somebody coming from the other side is coming from in viewing a pb gun as violent)...the reason this is a "red flag" is that it is human nature to express itself in two ways when pondering over violence that society normally would not condone: drawing or writing (There is a book called "Lost Boys", i forget the author, but in every case studied of the shooters in schools, there was one of these two components). Reading about stuff does not usually imply a desire to commit crimes for one main reason: it is often for educational and learned power, because you don't read a book if you're thinking about committing a violent act, you WRITE that book...at high school level anyway. So Trench Raider, there is nothing wrong with a book like that for it isn't one of the "red flags" so techincally it isn't one in the same. In simple terms, the teacher did nothing wrong except maybe her job, you chose a paintball gun for some really crazy reason without clearing it with her first (as all potentially risky projects in a high school class should be) and that means technically you asked for her impression regardless...Open your mouth next time you'll be fine.

[Jaster]

Cadet, he was drawing a paintball gun not an Uzi. This isn't a "Red Flag" type of situation. This is more of an overreacting teacher that didn't bother ask any questions about the drawing OR the student. It's called a power trip not a red flag. In a red flag situation he could argue that he was drawing something of a "non-lethal" nature. Which would be true and factual. Paintball guns are not designed a lethal weapon. Even police use them to fire beanbags, teargas, and pepper to control situation in a non-lethal manor. So IMO that particular drawing could not be used as a red flag excuse. Had the staff at the school BOTHERED to inquire about the drawing and the student instead of jumping the gun and ramming the drawing down his throat and suspending him without question, that would have been known. Redflag situations need to be handled gently to help prevent problems and incidents. That's not how this particular situation was handled. If this is how that school handles a redflag situation then I would find a different school to go to.

[Cadet2005]

Okay, so the police use them...SO WHAT? It might have been what set her off because a student does not need to be drawing that...look, I knwo this topic well, have explored it well by force because of my own precarious situation that makes what he did look more like a crime...I ask, WHY A PAINTBALL GUN? There are many other objects to draw from different prrspectives...if you ask me, he dug his own grave for that one.

By the way, paintball guns can kill...the internals are the best modes of lethal combat but a .68-caliber delivered to the head can be enough to cause hemmoraging...they weren't designed for killing, but neither were my feet and my hands, and they CAN...IMAGE, PERCEPTION, again I emphasize that what others see is critical...

[Loner4life164]

Chill Cadet. Eat a cookie or something. For heaven's sake, it was an art assignment. "I ask, WHY A PAINTBALL GUN? There are many other objects to draw from different prrspectives...if you ask me, he dug his own grave for that one." I say why not a paintball gun? Huh? Like he said before, he thought it would be a great idea to draw it in different perspectives. So he did it. The teacher didn't assign any rules or what not, so it's not his fualt.

[TorchedLH]

Originally posted by Cadet2005


By the way, paintball guns can kill...the internals are the best modes of lethal combat but a .68-caliber delivered to the head can be enough to cause hemmoraging...they weren't designed for killing, but neither were my feet and my hands, and they CAN...IMAGE, PERCEPTION, again I emphasize that what others see is critical...

yea... so what that a paintball gun CAN kill someone? can it do i reliably or effectivley? no. i can name 20 other lethal wepaons that are more effective that can be found in a classroom.

[TorchedLH]

here i'll name a few:
pencil
pen
ruler
potractor
compass (the ones to draw circles)
letter opener
staple gun
duct tape
chair
table
etc

[tonysk83]

compasses can be deadly they are really really sharp

[FalloutMan]

people take thousands of risk without thinking about them(driving, going down stairs, crossing the road, looking out a window, and so on and so forth) yet when it comes to guns whether it be a glue gun a squirt gun paintball gun or a real firearm they get nervous. only one of these is accualy designed to kill which is the firearm(they were orginally made to shoot people in war and or to hunt) could you kill someone with a glue gun? sure you could you would just need alot of glue to suffocate them. could you kill someone with a piece of paper? sure you could make them choke to death on it. can someone die from opening a pop tart package? sure they could have a heart attack trying to peal the package off. can a baseball bat kill someone or even a baseball? you betcha

the point is almost anything if not everything can kill you or can be used to kill you yet when it comes to knives firearms and their cousins people get uppity. taking away guns doesnt do anything, a criminal or in this case a kid could go and buy a gun off some wannabe gangster gun runner and so forth. drawing violent acts doesnt do anything my friend draws anime cartoons where people chop eachothers heads off and other random things yet he wouldnt intentionally hurt someone or try to kill them yet people would try to silence his artisitc ability which if you ask me would piss me off very much basically causing the problem not solving it.

muting the individual cannot work.

[Cadet2005]

You guys are missing the point and frankly I think it is because you think it is a view of your sport that is doing it: the image that was there was a GUN, not a marker as markers wre what kindergartners use to color when the crayons aren't to be found...how do you want this teacher to react? We don't know a thing about the past speakings of this individual or the climate/environment of the school...are there a lot of gangs? Is it a large school? Are there daily fights, etc...This isn't a vacuum, we can't forget that, we can't forget that every individual's drawings or whatever is taken as that: individuality...high school does not reinforce individuality as much as it reinforces social assimilation...Like I said, do I think it was worth suspension, no...do I think he was wrong, yes and no...he should have thought about the potential for danger when he drew the assignment...particularly her reaction...As on the road, you are responsible for what is in front of you and to me, that possibilty was right there in front of him and he should have known it. Also, it was probably in his school's code of conduct (I have yet to come across a school, large, small, private, public that does not have one somewhere) that outlines the expected behavior and perhaps the governing rule of behavior is in there...

[Urban-Coyote]

Originally posted by Jaster
Redflag situations need to be handled gently to help prevent problems and incidents. That's not how this particular situation was handled. If this is how that school handles a redflag situation then I would find a different school to go to.
yeah, getting suspended like that kinda makes you wanna shoot up the school don`t it?
They`re actually suppose to send me, i mean those people to a physic-cry-er-ist(sp checker can`t match any words, so i sound it out.) atleast thats what they told me if i make any threats to people.

[FalloutMan]

well im assuming since ive been in school almost a semester so far that he is too and that the teacher would realize his not a wannabe thug or beating people up at random. also based on the reaction to a drawing of a paintball gun for a school project which she never stated not to draw this or that, that it isnt some overcrowded school filled with moron loser gangsters

[SpyderHunter]

Cadet I was talkin about the guys who run around and shoot cars, people and other random crap. Not the stupid teachers. but ill shut up before i start a flame war

[Rancid Coleslaw]

dont get me started on those moronic, dead beat, idiotic half-wits running around doing drive-by's with paintball guns. Now i know why when a lot of people think of the word paintball they automatically think of pathetic idiots like that, because you never hear about the actual sport of paintball unless you play it regularly, all you hear about is that stupid crap on dateline and all those bad news shows to freak people out. Those people should be locked up in prison or something because if they dont have the ability to think about what theyre doing they dont even need to be out in society. Their pathetic cries for attention from other equally stupid people amused by this crap are only going to ruin paintball for all of us who actually play the game. When something like that happens they shouldnt even relate ANY of that with the word paintball because paintball is a sport not a crime.

...sorry, went off subject a little

[SpyderHunter]

Amen to that. The sad part is that you never hear about people who hit peoples houses with other sporting equipment like golf balls and baseballs. Looks like the media must truly love us since we're the only people getting advertised on the news. :rolleyes: