the best

[CockerKiller520]

alright, here's the way i see it, many people seem to think that just cause things cost more, they are better in quality, that is bull crap! the tippmann's are inexpensive, and very very durable and they don't cost quite as much as these "high end markers" such as mags, cockers, angels, ect. I have the A-5 with R/T, and i am firing at 9 bps, i could go higher than 15 or more if i really wanted to, but i see no point in firing faster, my gun was 300 and my friend's cocker was 360, mine came with R/T and already beat out the 60 dollar more cocker who had nothing, these cockers are unbelieveably expensive and my A-5 is deadly accurate, and i can shoot at a tree 150 ft away and have it hit the same spot all 25 times at 9 bps. the A-5 is very small too, it is about the size of a mag, and a 12" barrel is like the size of the gun itself! I see no point in going for a bigger gun, faster firing wasting more ammo and air, when you can just one hit one kill...i play with military tactics with hiding and camo, please tell me if there is a 'miracle gun' such as a cocker or mag or angel that can beat out the A-5's qualitites!


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[justgotrt]

I no. My 98 has enough stuff on it to beat a high end marker. I have
98 custom
Rt
verticle adapter
aci subzero expantion chamber
halo b
taso winforce 14 inch barrel

a cocker can't beat that.

[GrayFox]

hahahahahahahah!!!

god, you people crack me up!! (no offense)

but a 98 custom with a rt and halo can not even come close to knocking a cocker off the field

now i love tippys but still a shocktech cocker will blow a rt tippy off the field

so yes a cocker can beat that

[flyguy89]

Originally posted by CockerKiller520
and my A-5 is deadly accurate, and i can shoot at a tree 150 ft away and have it hit the same spot all 25 times at 9 bps.

What kind of barrel are you using? And are you using CO2? Did you actually measure the distance?

[SpyderHunter]

Right like you could do 15 bps on a tippmann. I like Tippmanns. you can get a lot for the price but im sick of people like you coming in here and saying thing like "I can get 99 bps on my BE Talon and I can hit people from 4 miles away because I have a scope." Stop it.:mad:

[CockerKiller520]

listen all of you, i have a tippmann A-5...not a 98 c, so that is how i can get high balls per second, i am using a cp barrel and a 20 ounce co2 tank, the gun can shoot around 13-15 bps for the A-5 has a R/T, beleive me i can shoot faster than your shocktec cocker if you were originally playing with a 98 c.



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ps...even my friend with a wgp cocker even thinks so cause i can fire faster than him with a 1100 dollar set up...like your stock shocktec cocker could beat that??? we play hardcore!

[adrenalinejunky]

Originally posted by GrayFox
hahahahahahahah!!!

god, you people crack me up!! (no offense)

but a 98 custom with a rt and halo can not even come close to knocking a cocker off the field

now i love tippys but still a shocktech cocker will blow a rt tippy off the field

so yes a cocker can beat that

hey, he said a WGP, not shocteck, and the shockteck costs alot more than 360, so lets put something on the tipmann to make the price closer,

e-bolt,
lp kit,
lapco bigshot,
halo b

umm, i don't know about you, but i'd take that setup of a shockteck cocker anyday,

and just so yah know, tippmann effect has alot of people yousing tippys with double triggers, barels and nitro tanks as there only upgrades, and i have yet to see them get blown off the feild,

and by the way, he said A-5, not 98 custom,


Originally posted by SpyderHunter
Right like you could do 15 bps on a tippmann. I like Tippmanns. you can get a lot for the price but im sick of people like you coming in here and saying thing like "I can get 99 bps on my BE Talon and I can hit people from 4 miles away because I have a scope." Stop it.:mad:

try agian, the a-5 has been tested by team tippmann effect to cycle at 24 bps, and the custom has been tested by warpig to cycle at 20bps, they may be able to go faster, thats just teh fastest i know of they have been clocked at.

and he has the RT. so 15 is nothing, the warpig test where the custom hit 20 was using an RT.

[pbkiller69]

The gun can cycle that fast, but you are not shooting that fast. Maybe 10-12 for short burst, but there is no way you will ever touch 15. It is also impossible to achieve that kind of accuracy. Even with a freak, nitro, and reg no gun could shoot that accurately, let alone with co2 and no reg. You are just another stupid noob who gives Tippmann a bad name, so do us all a favor and shut your mouth. Why do people even bother starting threads like this? You don't see people in the cocker forums making threads about how Tippmann sucks. Your friends cocker is probly the only one you've ever used. And about bps, its not everything anyways. Player that counts.


P.S: Your an idiot. Leave and don't come back.

[adrenalinejunky]

Originally posted by pbkiller69
The gun can cycle that fast, but you are not shooting that fast. Maybe 10-12 for short burst, but there is no way you will ever touch 15. It is also impossible to achieve that kind of accuracy. Even with a freak, nitro, and reg no gun could shoot that accurately, let alone with co2 and no reg. You are just another stupid noob who gives Tippmann a bad name, so do us all a favor and shut your mouth. Why do people even bother starting threads like this? You don't see people in the cocker forums making threads about how Tippmann sucks. Your friends cocker is probly the only one you've ever used. And about bps, its not everything anyways. Player that counts.


P.S: Your an idiot. Leave and don't come back.

hey, can you read? i said warpig did a test, and they fired a tippmann at 20bps using an RT, HE HAS AN RT.

so you disagree with him, lets take it personally and call him an idiot, a stupid noob, and say he's giving tippmann a bad name, or we could NOT act like a 3 year old and respectfully point out that you don't think thats possible.

[RedBeret]

The A-5 is capable of very high ROFs compared to a 98... however usually its at the sacrifice of accuracy and such... I know a guy who is pin-point at 16bps on a cocker... heck he works at the field, he had better... personally im gonna switch to a spyder cuz they are cheap for a high ROF... but still the A-5 can shoot 20bps, but thats not skill, thats all R/T...

[The Terminator]

Heh, a Halo-B on a tippy :rolleyes:

The other "high-end" markers do outperform tippies, but not enough to warrant shelling out $1,200 (IMO). Plus, you know the tippy won't have any unforeseen problems if you take care of it regularly. And even if you don't, they probably still won't have any problems...

[CockerKiller520]

alright you skater punk who thinks that the drugie bob marley is the best role model who is F****in ***! my A-5 is extremely accurate, pull your head out of your *** and get on the damn field, try one with a CP and try aiming for once, that is somethin you can't do with a freakin vertical feed!!!! and no i ain't no newbie, i have been playing for 4-5 years now and i have played with the best! angels, cockers, and bushmasters! i have been up against all of them, i go to the proshop where the guy runs it has a god damn A-5 with response trigger who has clocked his a 17 bps!!! so you just shup up sit down and die!





MESS WITH THE BEST, DIE WITH THE REST

ps...this message pertains to the ******* who said that an A-5 cannot shoot faster than 15 bps after adreniline junky said that it already could shoot 24 bps.

[adrenalinejunky]

calm down, i don't think cussing him out is gonna make him any more receptive to what you have to say,

and a minor correction, i said the RT has been tested at 2o, and the A-5 itself has been tested at 24(with e-grip)

[pbkiller69]

Originally posted by adrenalinejunky


hey, can you read? i said warpig did a test, and they fired a tippmann at 20bps using an RT, HE HAS AN RT.

so you disagree with him, lets take it personally and call him an idiot, a stupid noob, and say he's giving tippmann a bad name, or we could NOT act like a 3 year old and respectfully point out that you don't think thats possible.

I know he has an RT. But you still can't PULL 15bps, unless its on full auto, and thats cheating anyways.:rolleyes:

And Red Beret. What kind of cocker is shooting 15.:eyes: Unless it's electro, I can't see that happening.

[CockerKiller520]

listen, if you have ever disected the R/T system made by tippmann, you would see that it is actually a pin that pushes the finger back and seeing as how the muscle is tensed, it automatically pushes back, there is no way to turn off a response trigger, especially tippmanns, obviously you are just another person who thinks that tippmann is out of its mind and sucks, well have you know that if you put enough parts ona cocker also it can fire at 16 rps, my best friend has an 02 cocker by wgp which has such a small trigger pull that i can even fire at 7 rps, and you asked how it is even possible, it is a little thing called 'fanning the trigger' which is not like pulling on the trigger at all, it is more of like slapping it. so...if you think that tippmanns are no good, then you don't belong searchin inthis forum!



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[-=ReD-hAzE=-]

a cocker(stock/tricked) will outpreform any tippy(stock/tricked) anyday...

cockers are just as reliable as tippys... its all those morons out there that don't take care of they're guns that have problems...

cockers are more consistant...
less kick...
more efficiant...
higher quality...
nicer triggers...
smooth triggers...no matter how short the pull is on a tippy it's still clicky...
they look better...and have a backblock...and gnomes...
much higher resale values...


oh...and you can turn off the rt...

[greatonekyle]

i just read both of your threads cocker and all your doing is wasting space and embarrising all other tippmann owners. just because someone has a different idea or opinion thats against you doesnt make it alright to go cussing them out like a little 6th grader. because of people like you owning tippmanns it embarress me to be put on the same level as you. i love my tippmann and ill never sell but people like you dont deserve such nice guns. and for your great theory that opened this thread, paintball isnt all about shooting fast and maybe some day youll grow up and realize how stupid you make yourself sound and how pointless these threads are

[-=ReD-hAzE=-]

Originally posted by greatonekyle
i just read both of your threads cocker and all your doing is wasting space and embarrising all other tippmann owners. just because someone has a different idea or opinion thats against you doesnt make it alright to go cussing them out like a little 6th grader. because of people like you owning tippmanns it embarress me to be put on the same level as you. i love my tippmann and ill never sell but people like you dont deserve such nice guns. and for your great theory that opened this thread, paintball isnt all about shooting fast and maybe some day youll grow up and realize how stupid you make yourself sound and how pointless these threads are bravo...

[Marballfire]

Im gonna have to say that if you like your tippmann more than a cocker or a mag, thats fine, but theres no need to post a thread saying your A-5 is better than mine or anyone elses cocker, mag, angel, or any of those other high end guns. I personally like my cocker over any tippmann ive ever had in my hands, but if u feel in the reverse to that, fine, but you dont have to get all pissed at everyone for liking their gun more than an A-5

[Marballfire]

and just so yah know, tippmann effect has alot of people yousing tippys with double triggers, barels and nitro tanks as there only upgrades, and i have yet to see them get blown off the feild

Last time i checked, the shocktech cockers have won more world titles than any other marker...that includes the A-5

[CockerKiller520]

as i recall it, i dont remember saying that my A-5 was the best gun out there, sure i like my gun alot, cause it is MINE, and sure shockteck is a good company, and for all of you that keep on sayin that i'm wastin space...F***K YOU!!!! you can't tell me what to do, i bet i can beat you complainin newbies anyday!





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[-=ReD-hAzE=-]

maybe we can't tell you what to do... but i could pm a mod and tell them about your "colorful" words...


oh no... you called us newbies... maybe we'll get pissed off and call you a newb...and we'll have a giant newb war ending in me running to my mommy because some mean man on the internet called me names...

grow up...

[CockerKiller520]

oh and by the way, i never said that i rely on my gun firing fast, i never do, i use it for those 'sticky situations' and i have a new cp barrel unlike the stock barrel, i can hit accurately- oh and yes, i do fire at a consistant rate, and i believe that the thing that someone said on this forum, that tippy's always have a click to the trigger pull, i kinda like that in a gun, you can't short stroke then! and for the last time...I NEVER SAID MY GUN WAS BETTER THAN ANYONE'S! it is the player that counts, i know a kid with a Blade who could knock me out anyday, now he has an auto mag and is quiet and can take me out in hyperball anyday,and my other friends have two Cockers, i'm not a real big fan on cockers for no perticular reason, it just seems as though there is always somethin that needs to be improved when you buy it stock, you have to go spending 5-6 times it's worth to make it fire fast (which if they are so accurate...then howcome you wanna fire fast????!!!!) and also to make it more accurate, i just feel as though i found the ultimate gun for myself, i was goin to get the Commando 2, but then someone told me it sux so i got the A-5 and my bro with a flatline can take me out from down the field or right on my back when he is tailing me fromdown the field, and if it makes me sound like a newbie from cursin, too bad! that is how i talk, i cuss all the time...If you got problems with tippmanns, or me...THEN LEAVE! NOTHIN IS KEEPIN YOU HERE!!!!


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[The Terminator]

Mess with the best, die with the rest?

First off, last time I checked no one regularly dies in paintball. Secondly, it's "Mess with the best, die like the rest."

Please stop running your mouth, it just makes us Tippmann users look bad... And this thread seems like it was started purely to start a flame-war... If you've got something intelligent to say, cool. But if you're just gonna say the A5 is better than a cocker, because I can shoot Xbps with a RT (that is banned from tourneys, btw), then keep it to yourselves and your friends, there is no need for it here, it's just gonna piss people off.

[laub]

stop yelling everyone! who cares who can shoot faster, its just a game (actually more like a hobby, this sh*t is expensive!@ ;) )

[tippycustom]

THEN LEAVE! NOTHIN IS KEEPIN YOU HERE!!!!
you ethier

[-=ReD-hAzE=-]

Originally posted by CockerKiller520
oh and by the way, i never said that i rely on my gun firing fast, i never do, i use it for those 'sticky situations' and i have a new cp barrel unlike the stock barrel, i can hit accurately- oh and yes, i do fire at a consistant rate, and i believe that the thing that someone said on this forum, that tippy's always have a click to the trigger pull, i kinda like that in a gun, you can't short stroke then!(you can still chop though) and for the last time...I NEVER SAID MY GUN WAS BETTER THAN ANYONE'S! it is the player that counts, i know a kid with a Blade who could knock me out anyday, now he has an auto mag and is quiet and can take me out in hyperball anyday,and my other friends have two Cockers, i'm not a real big fan on cockers for no perticular reason, it just seems as though there is always somethin that needs to be improved when you buy it stock, you have to go spending 5-6 times it's worth to make it fire fast (which if they are so accurate...then howcome you wanna fire fast????!!!!)(so you can hit people that are sprinting between bunkers...you want to be able to throw as much paint as you can in they're direction so you have a better chance to get them out) and also to make it more accurate, i just feel as though i found the ultimate gun for myself, i was goin to get the Commando 2, but then someone told me it sux so i got the A-5(so...a-5's suck... you gonna sell yours and get something differant now because someone says a-5s suck..?) and my bro with a flatline can take me out from down the field or right on my back when he is tailing me fromdown the field, and if it makes me sound like a newbie from cursin, too bad! that is how i talk, i cuss all the time(seems as if you didn't need to cuss in this post...)...If you got problems with tippmanns, or me...THEN LEAVE! NOTHIN IS KEEPIN YOU HERE!!!!(so you want ME to leave because i have a problem with you..? how about no...)


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[tippycustom]

(so...a-5's suck... you gonna sell yours and get something differant now because someone says a-5s suck..?) ouch(even though commando2s do suck)

[midknight]

You know you've screwed up pretty bad when you've got the tippy owners against one of their own. Shut up now please.

[greatonekyle]

man we really need crime dog back here to get idiots like cocker from ruining the tippmann name. some close this thread

[-=RA=-]

Originally posted by greatonekyle
man we really need crime dog back here to get idiots like cocker from ruining the tippmann name. some close this thread


No kidding. CD hasn't even been gone that long and we've already got crap like this going on.

[||GS|| Leb]

Ok, Tippmans are excellent starter guns. No one disagrees with that. They are durable, moderately accurate, and sub par in speed. I am not considering the RT trigger as an option because 1) it WILL be banned from tourneys, and 2) its exactly the same as going full auto....full auto=n00b. But you come on here saying that your gun is just as accurate as X and just as fast as X and smaller than X. This topic was probably intended as a "tippman pride" topic, but as you can see you just disgraced the whole forum.

Now im going to take an Impulse for an example because i have experience with one. Impulses are faster, more consistent, and have a tremendous room for improvement through 2 upgrades. They are bigger, and not as durable i will warrant. But, if you can hit the same spot from 150 ft away over and over again, with no reg, on C02, and with a CP barrel. Now i take my Nasty, and have *one* of the most consistent regs on it, and a Freak barrel perfectly matched with the paint (nearly) and a DynaFlo tank and i stand 150 ft away. so if you can do that with the setup, technically, i can nail an ant crawling up the side of the tree my aim permitting, and then be able to hit the same spot over and over and over again, of course we wont take into effect shoot down. its not physically possible. Basically my poin behind this all is, Don't come on here until you measure 150ft out, put a half-dollar coin onto a tree, get up to how ever many BPS you think you can hit, and nail that half-dollar over and over again.

my A-5 is extremely accurate, pull your head out of your *** and get on the damn field, try one with a CP and try aiming for once, that is somethin you can't do with a freakin vertical feed!!!! This single quote makes me laugh so hard, ok a vertical feed takes a helluva lot more skill to aim than a side feed does. Im not quite sure how educated you are, but all the Pb'ers i know with vert feeds don't get out on the field and close there eyes and pray that some whimsical force will guid there shot to the target. So obviously all the pro teams out there with vert feeds prove one of 2 things. 1) they have amazing luck and can shoot quite well without aiming. OR 2) They learned how to aim down the side of the gun, and you know absolutely nothing about what you are talking about.

A-5's are not god given miracles. they are good markers for players who really don't play as much as others. Like i can tell just by the way you are talking, that you are like 13-15 years old,and you don't play tournaments. That 4-5 years of experience is absolute bull crap. If you had that much experience you know that the wisest player is the one who doesn't talk when they don't know what they are talking about. And if you really are older/more experienced, grow up, and don't post here again until you understand whats going on.

I have no idea why this thread angered me so much, because i sure did type a lot in 10 Min's.

[pbkiller69]

You sure told him.:laugh:

[adrenalinejunky]

Originally posted by -=ReD-hAzE=-
a cocker(stock/tricked) will outpreform any tippy(stock/tricked) anyday...

cockers are just as reliable as tippys... its all those morons out there that don't take care of they're guns that have problems...

cockers are more consistant...
less kick...
more efficiant...
higher quality...
nicer triggers...
smooth triggers...no matter how short the pull is on a tippy it's still clicky...
they look better...and have a backblock...and gnomes...
much higher resale values...


oh...and you can turn off the rt...

that first statement is just pure ignorance, you may like them more, but a stock cocker isn't better then any tricked tippmann,

they may be as reliable, but there not as durable, (yes there is a difference

they are only more consistent when you they have a better reg, so we will give the tippmann a max flo.

less kick, ok, but its not like the tippmanns are bad,

higher quality? what teh heck is that supposed to mean,

with the e-bolt or e-grip the tippmann trigger isn't clicky

looking better is personall prefference, the back block means nothing, and don't the gnomes screw up guns?

higher resale value, ok, what it you don't plan on reselling it, tippmanns last a long time,

[adrenalinejunky]

Originally posted by -=ReD-hAzE=-
maybe we can't tell you what to do... but i could pm a mod and tell them about your "colorful" words...



i'm starting to think thats a good idea...

[adrenalinejunky]

Ok, Tippmans are excellent starter guns. No one disagrees with that. They are durable, moderately accurate, and sub par in speed. I am not considering the RT trigger as an option because 1) it WILL be banned from tourneys, and 2) its exactly the same as going full auto....full auto=n00b. how does full auto = newb? it just equalls a guy who wants to shoot fast, and the rt isn't full autoBut you come on here saying that your gun is just as accurate as X and just as fast as X and smaller than X. This topic was probably intended as a "tippman pride" topic, but as you can see you just disgraced the whole forum.

Now im going to take an Impulse for an example because i have experience with one. Impulses are faster, more consistent, and have a tremendous room for improvement through 2 upgrades. They are bigger, and not as durable i will warrant. But, if you can hit the same spot from 150 ft away over and over again, with no reg, on C02, and with a CP barrel. Now i take my Nasty, and have *one* of the most consistent regs on it, and a Freak barrel perfectly matched with the paint (nearly) and a DynaFlo tank and i stand 150 ft away. so if you can do that with the setup, technically, i can nail an ant crawling up the side of the tree my aim permitting, and then be able to hit the same spot over and over and over again, of course we wont take into effect shoot down. its not physically possible. Basically my poin behind this all is, Don't come on here until you measure 150ft out, put a half-dollar coin onto a tree, get up to how ever many BPS you think you can hit, and nail that half-dollar over and over again.

agreed



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my A-5 is extremely accurate, pull your head out of your *** and get on the damn field, try one with a CP and try aiming for once, that is somethin you can't do with a freakin vertical feed!!!!
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This single quote makes me laugh so hard, ok a vertical feed takes a helluva lot more skill to aim than a side feed does. Im not quite sure how educated you are, but all the Pb'ers i know with vert feeds don't get out on the field and close there eyes and pray that some whimsical force will guid there shot to the target. So obviously all the pro teams out there with vert feeds prove one of 2 things. 1) they have amazing luck and can shoot quite well without aiming. OR 2) They learned how to aim down the side of the gun, and you know absolutely nothing about what you are talking about.

i found that kinda funny too

A-5's are not god given miracles. they are good markers for players who really don't play as much as others. for players who don't wanna play as much as others? thats bull, you mean guys like tippmann effect? they plan to be using exclusively a-5 e-grips next year, and there beating everyone, shoot, this year some of them are out there with customs, double triggers, a barrel and nitro, and there still killing everyone, the a-5 is a good gun, just because you don't like it doesn't mean no experienced player should use it Like i can tell just by the way you are talking, that you are like 13-15 years old,and you don't play tournaments. point? do you have to play tournaments to be considered good, or an experienced player? That 4-5 years of experience is absolute bull crap. If you had that much experience you know that the wisest player is the one who doesn't talk when they don't know what they are talking about. funny though i find that not always to be the case, some people never seem to shut up. you could be right, but i'm not sure And if you really are older/more experienced, grow up, and don't post here again until you understand whats going on.

I have no idea why this thread angered me so much, because i sure did type a lot in 10 Min's.

[Turambar]

Guys...there is this thing...I like to call it PERSONAL PREFERENCE.

So how about we STOP ARGUING ALREADY! NO ONE WILL EVER WIN THIS DEBATE, SO GET OVER IT!

[chinqlinq89]

Haha thank you very much batman.

And seriously...everyone...just...stop.

[CockerKiller520]

hey i know you're all lookin at me for starting this, i didn't intend to have it come out like this, it was more of like me advertising for the A-5, i'm tired of people puttin me down cause my gun brings down my skills...first gun i had was a samuraui that i got for christmas, not a good gun but it can increase your skills, then that broke and i got a brass eagle blade, i used that until i found out that avalon was coming out with a new commando 3, i looked at the reviews and it proved not worthy, i then came across the A-5 at proshotpaintball.com, then i fell in love with it, for an extra 20 bucks i got the R/T installed, it don't mean i wanted it, i hardly ever use it! and by the way you are right, i haven't been playing for 4-5 years, more of like this is my 3rd, and no i'm not 14-15 i'm 16!, hell if you were in a town like mine then i'm sure you would take up the habbit of cussin! and how does cussin make you sound like a newbie? answerme that! the only reason why i pick on cockers and all these other high end semi's is cause of the users of them! they think they are untouchable cause they play with a cocker, and have you seen some of these wgp adds? they specifically say 'you da man, only if you play with a cocker. otherwise you not da man' which just gets me pissed!

[The_Crazy_Hobo]

Well, number one, about the cussing. It may not make you look like a newbie but it does make you look like you're ignorant. And people usually just relate ignorant people to newbies (lol but I know plenty of ignorant players with a good 5 years under their belts). Don't use your upbringing or where you live as an excuse for cussing people out. I live in a town where most everybody curses like a sailor, but do you see me losing my temper because somebody misunderstood what I said, or because they correct me when I'm wrong? Nooooo. Honestly, you get way too pissed over this. It's an internet forum for crying out loud. Go get some anger management, then come back here when you can act like the experienced player you say you are. They're newbies, huh? just a bunch of dumb newbies making fun of your gun. Well, if they really are newbies (which is dubious), then why don't you correct them calmly, or at worst agree to disagree. Let them go on, because sitting here and bickering like you've been doing for two pages is just wasting space on the forum.

Number two, why are we all arguing over "Oh, this gun is better!" anyways? I mean, honestly, don't say you're that experienced or mature if you're still sitting in an internet forum arguing which gun is better. It doesn't matter, there are players that could take out people you might deem good that uuse autocockers (or mags or a5's or whatever you think is best, with a blade.

Lastly, any mods around? Any at all? I think this thread more than needs deleted, or at least locked.

oh, yes. do thyself a favour. Don't stereotype all 'cocker users cuz some of them think they are better than you cuz of their nice guns. If it pisses you off that bad, go talk to them about it. Or, better yet, here's a novel idea: show them taht you can still take them with whatever gun. And if you can't beat them, use it as an excuse to get better. But don't bash a whole group of people just because some of them are ignorant.

[||GS|| Leb]

well adrenalinejunkie, i probably should not have put in that full auto=n00b, but i really do feel its cheap. I don't however see how some of you don't consider the RT a form of full auto, NPPL rules said that it has to be 1 paintball per triger pull. The RT just barely inches around that but i think that soon, they will modifiy that line and somehow change it to the effect of "1 paintball per trigger pull, a trigger pull being defined as an extension of the finger(s) and then the pull motion" or something like that.

I'm glad you agreed with that 150ft thing. I don't think there is anyone here who doesn't agree.

Can't aim with a vert rise eh? 'Nuff said.

When i said that its for players who don't pay as much i mean rec ballers who play when they get some free time or with friends not as frequently as others. As for Tippman effect, sure, those guys are awsome, and i have respect for them. And also i never said that i didn't like A-5's. i think they are upgradeable, pretty damn fast for the price, and a good starter/rec gun. But i also think that with the money you could spend making a tippman/spyder/pirrahna etc. pretty good, you could always just buy a gun thats pretty good to start with.

Now about the part with the tournaments, what i was trying to say is, that he says hes been playing and has years of experience. I'm saying that i don't think he does by the way he says things. I consider a tournament to be a true test of skill. In a walk-on game, if you gave me a blade, and stuck me against 10 year olds i think i could take them down real nice. But, in a tournament, there is a very good chance that you can get wiped the floor with. Thats just personal preference to me.

And you come off being understanding and have resonable points, but that last point you made, unless i don't interpret it right, comes off to be a flame on me. If so, what makes you better than him? If not, explain plz.

[tonysk83]

CockerKiller520 shut up with your flaming, no one cares:o



















newbie:o

[adrenalinejunky]

that last point wasn't directed at you, it was more a statement of anoyance, i know a few kids who have been playing a while, but they still know nothing, and they talk as if they know everything, and there better then everyone.

[greatonekyle]

CockerKiller520 shut up with your flaming, no one cares

nicely said:D

[||GS|| Leb]

ok i just wanted to make sure, it could kinda go both ways, with that being said.....burn it.....burn this whole thread down to the last pixel. or it could just get closed. whatever.

[Magnus55]

Good idea. Cockerkiller520, consider this a warning for the flaming. As for the rest of you, I applaud you guys for trying to reason with logic and not treating flaming more flaming, and not silly name calling like saying someone is a "newbie". :)