PDA

View Full Version : i dont get how some can bet better than others


BenDirt
02-07-2003, 07:55 PM
if you can run fast and watch out for the other team so you dont get bunkerd....


what eles is there to being "good" at paintballing?

SpUnKy-BoLtOn
02-07-2003, 07:56 PM
Ill answer uur question with another... Have u ever actually played paintball?:confused:

BenDirt
02-07-2003, 07:57 PM
yep.

cocker kid 2k2
02-08-2003, 04:39 AM
Well, why dont you go out there, start running a lot so you can run very fast, and then go play about 4 experienced people, since you can outrun them you'll win right?

Well, thats not the case at all, but if you do go out there and try to beat abotu 3 or 4 experienced people, they will just catch you on the slightest errors and you'll be out, after you find out what your doing wrong you can fix it and start to do more and more things right, its how you improve your game, its how everybody does it.

Deathstalker
02-08-2003, 07:54 AM
Being good at paintball takes a lot more than just not getting bunkered. IMO, better players are more aware, not necessarily faster with their feet or trigger finger. They are aware of their teammates, opponents, good cover, clear lanes, and shooting posture. They maintain their equipment to minimize all chances of on-field failure, but this does not mean they have to play with a $1,000 marker. Better players communicate, know when to push and when to sit back, are not careless, and can read a field.

With enough practice and playing time, many of these skills are easier to achieve than others. However, it's difficult for one person to call themselves "the best" simply because of the high level of competition. For 99% of us, the old adage holds true: no matter how good you are at something, there will always be someone who does it better.

Keep in mind that lacking any of these skills doesn't mean you can't have fun every time you step onto the field.

Ebonclaw
02-08-2003, 09:06 AM
Well...let's see....paintball requires that you be aware and informed...and informing at all times....you need to be able to spot things that give away movements or positions, you need to be able to pick and choose your battles, know when you have the time to reload, know who's covering you and what they're doing, you need to be faster, play tighter, and shoot straighter to get your target in a snapshooting match, you need to know angles, what kind of bunker will give you what kind of cover and what kind of angles, aware of ever-changing strong and weak point sin your own and another's team, you need to be able to move without being seen, be able to shoot from a variety of positions, and you need know when to use cover fire, when to try and fight and when to wait for someone to back you up before you can take a guy down, and sometimes, you'll need to have to take that guy down with or without your cover. You have to be calm under pressure, even when it's 3 on 1, know quirks about equipment (for instance recognizing the change in sound a gun makes when it's dry firing), you need to be able to use little tricks (like turning off your feed briefly to MAKE that sound and trick people into thinking you're out of ammo, or be able to see movemement in the cracks between the boards of a bunker to know someone is there), you need to act and react fast with precision, and you need to be able to engage from long and short ranges with effectiveness.

There's probably lots more, but this is your main key points to paintball (esp speedball).

Deathroll
02-08-2003, 10:10 AM
Being good at paintball requires a high end gun, good teamwork and accuracy. The only other things would be how "tight" you are when you snap shoot and ofcourse overcoming the fear of getting hit, which comes with experiance.

Flanders
02-08-2003, 10:17 AM
no it doesn't there are pro's and am teams that use spyders

shure they are tricked, but still spyders

Blacksheep
02-08-2003, 10:40 AM
* Cover
* Terrain
* Concealment
* Blending
* Marksmanship
* Stealth
* Gear Preperation
* Reloading
* Awareness
* Intelligence
* Barrel Cleaning
* Route Selection
* Resourcefulness
* Patience
* Learning NOT to Hesitate
* Team Drills
* Fire Team Rushes
* Snap Shooting
* Bunker Selection
* Spotting/Observation
* Angles
* Teamwork
* Team Manuvers
* Coordination
* Physical Fitness
* Decision Making

UTLadiesMan
02-08-2003, 11:42 AM
Play a game of chess. Throw your Queen out on the board in the second move. You're gonna get hosed.

Just being faster and more powerful doesn't help. If you don't have the support structures in place, you don't stand a chance. Two recball players working well together can take out a good player who is ignoring his team and is being ignored by his team.

To go back to the chess analogy... an individual pawn by itself is weak. It means basically nothing, and it costs more to protect than it's worth. Several pawns working together are very strong, and easy to protect, and give you much more protection back. You have to have all the little things working well together before the big moves have any validity.

cocker kid 2k2
02-08-2003, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by Blacksheep
* Cover
* Terrain The terrain you play on isnt something you can control, most fields are just grass, or sand or indoor on a carpet. Imo i really dont think one offers more of an advantage than the other
* Concealment
* Blending How does blending in help in speedball?
* Marksmanship
* Stealth Once again doesnt help in speedball
* Gear Preperation
* Reloading
* Awareness
* Intelligence
* Barrel Cleaning I think this is what would fall under Gear Preperation
* Route Selection
* Resourcefulness
* Patience
* Learning NOT to Hesitate
* Team Drills
* Fire Team Rushes:eyes:
* Snap Shooting
* Bunker Selection Whats the difference in route selection and bunker selection?
* Spotting/Observation
* Angles
* Teamwork
* Team Manuvers
* Coordination
* Physical Fitness
* Decision Making

Azn_gansta
02-08-2003, 11:56 AM
stealth is speedball isnt really stealth. like down to 2v1 or 1v1 u gotta move around and sneak up on the other person. or like using bunkers to advance and the bunkers make it so the other players cant see you. really stealth in speedball is at the closing

cocker kid 2k2
02-08-2003, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by Azn_gansta
stealth is speedball isnt really stealth. like down to 2v1 or 1v1 u gotta move around and sneak up on the other person. or like using bunkers to advance and the bunkers make it so the other players cant see you. really stealth in speedball is at the closing


If its 1v1 im going to bunker the guy, you guys can go sneaking up on people, i just prefer to do it the easiest way.

UTLadiesMan
02-08-2003, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by Azn_gansta
stealth is speedball isnt really stealth. like down to 2v1 or 1v1 u gotta move around and sneak up on the other person. or like using bunkers to advance and the bunkers make it so the other players cant see you. really stealth in speedball is at the closing

If it's 1 on 1, just put tons of paint on their bunker so they can't hear you.

Azn_gansta
02-08-2003, 12:29 PM
on 1v1 most people just bunker. so yeah bad example with the 1v1

BenDirt
02-08-2003, 03:43 PM
so......alot of it depends on your team.

Originally posted by Blacksheep

* Cover -----heres a team thing
* Terrain
* Concealment------- when i was behind a tire, i made sure i was at the base of the tire so that they couldnt shoot my feet.

* Blending
* Marksmanship-------the gun and the wind effected me today.
* Stealth
* Gear Preperation
* Reloading------didnt have anything to relode with
* Awareness-------- i would very slowly peak around the corners and stay like that for bout 20 seconds to see who was were. i also observed the paint flying from the places i couldnt see.
* Intelligence------common sence?
* Barrel Cleaning------ball broke, ran to my team mate to get the squeegie and got shot in the butt by another team mate of mine.
* Route Selection----- i was aware of were the people were, and when i didnt see anyone looking, i ran(crouching) to a tire/wall
* Resourcefulness------has plenty of paint thru the games. never ran out in the middle of a game.
* Patience--------there was a waste high wall in the middle of the field, my guys were unloading there hoppers 15 feet from the wall at there bunkers, so i wasnt worried about them getting too close, so i ran to the wall and sat there for a few mins slowly peakin around to see who was were.
* Learning NOT to Hesitate----no problamo
* Team Drills-------first time players, dont have a team.
* Fire Team Rushes
* Snap Shooting--------not too good at that because of the gun :D
* Bunker Selection-------part of awareness i think. i aslo made a bad bunker selection today in battlefield play. i chose some big blue barrels that are lil over waste high, and some one took out the guys to my left and i didnt know, and my bunker didnt have protection there and they got me. didnt have mutch protection at all.
* Spotting/Observation--------did that.
* Angles----okay at that iguess.
* Teamwork---------again, couldnt really comunicate with them because they were busy shootin. and i didnt ask good questions.
* Team Manuvers
* Coordination
* Physical Fitness------i was able to squat[run] the whole time and keep peeking up and down. legs burned near the end.
* Decision Making--------meh.

Flanders
02-08-2003, 04:07 PM
* Cover
* Terrain The terrain you play on isnt something you can control, most fields are just grass, or sand or indoor on a carpet. Imo i really dont think one offers more of an advantage than the other,answer-yes but sliding on astro turf and on sand is different, also how u sit for cumfort, which is bi and how quickly u can move
* Concealment
* Blending How does blending in help in speedball? well i dunno bout this either
* Marksmanship
* Stealth Once again doesnt help in speedball-u try moving up a straight snake with some one on the other side knowing ur there, they pop out ur screwed. when u go to bunker some one, and they know ehere ur comign from, pop out shoot u, both of u may get hit
* Gear Preperation
* Reloading
* Awareness
* Intelligence
* Barrel Cleaning I think this is what would fall under Gear Preperation, answer not if u chop in the game
* Route Selection
* Resourcefulness
* Patience
* Learning NOT to Hesitate
* Team Drills
* Fire Team Rushes
* Snap Shooting
* Bunker Selection Whats the difference in route selection and bunker selection-answer the rout to getting to ur bunker, and chooseing which bunker is best suited for ur playing style are very different.
* Spotting/Observation
* Angles
* Teamwork
* Team Manuvers
* Coordination
* Physical Fitness
* Decision Making
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Digital
02-08-2003, 04:16 PM
Quit trying to show off Flanders...;)

Was gonna say something but he covered it all...