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[lemonhead]

i am going to massachusettes and i want to bring my paintball gun with and we are taking a plane do i need to fill out forms have a permit or what happen just plz help me i leave tommarow

[CrazyEdd]

I think it's perfectly legal, but you can't bring full tanks on planes. I guess I'm not really sure, but if you put it in cargo, and take the barrel off and bring an empty tank you might be ok.

[FireViper]

You may want to call the airliner and ask if it's allowed and if they do what paper work is mandatory; if you forget to call and ask make sure to disassemble the gun as much as possible, Also I've heard that your tank shouldn't have air when fly(if I'm wrong someonecorrect me) , but be try to call the airliner; they or the airports may have their own policies

[Incube]

when i went to new york i brought mine but they wouldnt let me bring a full tank!!!!!!!!! i ended up not using it anyway!

[CrazyEdd]

See? What did I tell you. They don't like having highly compressed gases on those little airplanes, son. They're afraid they will go boom.

[tj]

dude make sure to put like a paintball magsene over the gun so the dumb *** peeps no what the gun is and they dont arrest u or somethin

[Jordan]

there not gonna shoot you cause they see what looks like agun in there...might arrest you but i doubt it...just take the barrel off and maybe the trigger frame. i've done it but they made me take the whole brass part where you screw it in off the co2 tank to make sure it was empty

[tj]

dude the reason they do that is because the pressure changes at 24000 feet up in the air on the groun you might have 3000 psi up there it could be 6000 and if a nitro tank explodes on the plane it would be **** it up really good if it dont crash

[Jordan]

**** i would be pretty pissed if someone did that while i was on a plane...damn co2 tanks exploding..

[Incube]

thats why i said they wouldnt let me have a full tank morons ! did you ever noticed when you order a tank off the inter net they dont send it full???? cuz it is un safe!

[Richy_C]

Wow, ncube learned something, quite possibly on his own :o

[Ripcal]

You have to make sure that it is in your baggage, not your carry-on (the one you carry yourself on the plane.) That way if they have any problem, they'll stop ya at the x-ray. Disassemble as much as posible, and empty co2\n2.

Good luck!

[UTLadiesMan]

The above reasoning for empty tanks is somewhat wrong. The air pressure is significantly lower in the upper atmosphere, not higher. The pressure in the tank is always a constant. But instead of one atmosphere of pressure pushing on all sides of the tank, there is much less (sometimes as low as about 1/5). The difference between the pressure in the tank and the atmosphere pressure, make the tank erupt.

The inside of the tank always has the same volume, and the same amount of gas. Thus the pressure is constant.
In the atmosphere, there is less pressure (gravity pulls air towards the earth and there is less air pushing down from above it) when the elevation is increased. Tanks only explode when there is a extreme difference in the pressures on the inside of the tank and the outside. You could put the pressure inside of a tank to 1 million psi if the outside pressure was also raised to about the same. Just because the pressure inside the tank is higher, doesn't mean it will explode.

If the surrounding air pressure was increasing instead of decreasing, your tank would implode not explode. I don't think the airlines would care in that case, seeing as you are the only one with damaged property.

[Edited by UTLadiesMan on 07-12-2001 at 04:10 PM]

[orryn]

I don't think they really care if you put it in cargo, however, they may want to veryfy that the tank is empty.

[CrazyEdd]

True, I never said why they blow, but it's the same reason that balloons break when they get too high. Too much force pushing out, not enuff pushing in, pushing-out presure wins... KABOOOOOM!!!!! :D

[tj]

Originally posted by UTLadiesMan
The above reasoning for empty tanks is somewhat wrong. The air pressure is significantly lower in the higher atmosphere, not higher. The pressure in the tank is always a constant. But instead of one atmosphere of pressure pushing on all sides of the tank, there is much less (sometimes as low as about 1/5). The difference between the pressure in the tank and the atmosphere pressure, make the tank erupt.

In summary, in the tank there is always the same area, and the same amount of gas. Thus the pressure is constant.
In the atmosphere, there is less pressure (gravity pulls air towards the earth and there is less air pushing down from above it) when the elevation is increased. Tanks only explode when there is a extreme difference in the pressures on the inside of the tank and the outside. You could put the pressure inside of a tank to 1 million psi if the outside pressure was also raised to about the same. Just because the pressure inside the tank is higher, doesn't mean it will explode.

ok ok thats what i ment. :D well in one plane crash some old lady put her oxygen bottle full in there it exploded and made the plane crash cool hua. :)

[Ripcal]

You might just want to bring the gun only and buy a new tank where your going. That way you have less hassel. A 20oz c02 is only 20 bucks, big whoop.

[Incube]

Yeah like someone said it implodes the flight peeps told me that it would suck in or something also its very cold in baggage areas and it dose something to your co2 it sucks it out or trys to and implodes! something along that line!

[elTwitcho]

Not to mention the fact the tank could be filled with cyanide gas and kill everyone on board. That's why you need a special license to bring an oxygen tank on board.

[Incube]

but what if you wanted to bring some urin to drink along the way it is sterile guys!

[Ripcal]

Bring the tank to Columbia and fill it will cocaine, and say that they'res no c02 and they be a millionarie.

[CrazyEdd]

NONONO!! Take a HP tank to Columbia, fill almost all with cocaine, then a lil bit of nitro, shake, and sell to a hard core druggy who needs a powered shot of coke. You could make a fortune... but I want royalties, or something dammit... :D

[iipaintballer]

Make sure you contact the airline that you are travelling on. Each airline has different rules for those items. But overall, you cannot bring pressurized tanks on board. And 99.9% of the time all of your gear will need to be put in the cargo area. Cannot be carry on.

[unknown]

to the original question, paintball guns are perfectly legal in MA and don't require forms.

[Sharc]

yup i live in mass, and paintball guns are completely legal, but you ned to be 18 to buy one, or to buy any thing for a paintball gun. where in mass are you coming to??? i live in westfield, right near springfield.

[ry_goody]

Co2\HPA tank don't explode, they have rupture disks so if the pressure is to high it just blows out all of the pressure.

[toadman7b22]

Originally posted by tj
Originally posted by UTLadiesMan
The above reasoning for empty tanks is somewhat wrong. The air pressure is significantly lower in the higher atmosphere, not higher. The pressure in the tank is always a constant. But instead of one atmosphere of pressure pushing on all sides of the tank, there is much less (sometimes as low as about 1/5). The difference between the pressure in the tank and the atmosphere pressure, make the tank erupt.

In summary, in the tank there is always the same area, and the same amount of gas. Thus the pressure is constant.
In the atmosphere, there is less pressure (gravity pulls air towards the earth and there is less air pushing down from above it) when the elevation is increased. Tanks only explode when there is a extreme difference in the pressures on the inside of the tank and the outside. You could put the pressure inside of a tank to 1 million psi if the outside pressure was also raised to about the same. Just because the pressure inside the tank is higher, doesn't mean it will explode.

ok ok thats what i ment. :D well in one plane crash some old lady put her oxygen bottle full in there it exploded and made the plane crash cool hua. :)



i dont think its cool that a plane crashed and people were killed

[tj]

yes i agree i was being scartstic sorry did not mean to offend neone

[CrazyEdd]

Originally posted by ry_goody
Co2\HPA tank don't explode, they have rupture disks so if the pressure is to high it just blows out all of the pressure.

Taht may be true, but they do explode my child... The pressure inside the tank doesn't have to change. The atmospheric pressure up there is MUCH less... Sooooo, there is much less pressure outside, and the same amount inside the tank... Yes, it could explode. Why do you think bubbles, ballons, and other stuff like that explodes? Not enough pressure on the outside to push in on the surface of the object, which causes the pressure on the inside to push through... once again KABOOOOM!!!

[Congobongo]

wow we all have vivid imaginations

[unknown]

tj, because of you i have expanded by sig:

[CrazyEdd]

TJ stuck a paintball up his nose? Yuck... you are one crazy mofo... :D

[Incube]

anyway back on topic!
Just call the airline and find out