Defiant or cocker?

[TLplus84]

i was thinking..i really really like the Image CoCker...but now i'm considering the Defiant...cuz it's only 550-600, lp, and alot cheaper than the Image cocker..i dono..what do you guys think?

[Counterfeit]

This is going to sound cliche(sp) but if you like lectro triggers better, get the defient, if you want a lot of upgradibilty(Is that a real word?) and you like the mechanical trigger, go cocker.

[TLplus84]

haha yeah upgradability is a word..i donno..the Image cocker is mad money..and i want a sweet gun to start off with..should i go with the Defiant or the Bushy?

[X]

I say Defiant. It's compatible with Cocker barrels.

[TLplus84]

hrm i donno...700 dollars compared to 450..

[Richy_C]

450 or 540? i say defiant, it's a smooth cycler and niiiiice

[TLplus84]

where is it for 540??

[Predator2]

i would rather get a cocker instead though. but go w/ wut u want.

[TLplus84]

hey what do you tink about the Pro Team Sleeper Cocker Fx?

[TLplus84]

http://www.proteamdirect.com/fxcocsleep.html
that's the link..also i like it cuz the color, and there is alot of room for upgrading..what d0 you guys think?

[TLplus84]

doesn't ANYONE have anything to say about the guN? hrmm..

[MC Escher]

hey tl, i considered getting that gun when i was saving up for a good cocker, but in reality its only an anodized 2000 ac with stock chrome pneu's and a new back block. The only real change from the stock 2000 to this one is its flashy color and aluminum 45 frame. get the image cocker man- you wont regret it!!

[TLplus84]

i really want to..but i can't afford it....i talked it over with my parents..they sed yes...then they sed no...i hate it when they do that..so now i'm looking for a new cocker that's moderatly upgraded..

[TLplus84]

i donno..i really like the Image cocker..but it's mad expensive..

[Edited by TLplus84 on 02-12-2001 at 09:30 PM]

[Predator2]

whats your price range?

[MC Escher]

well, if you get that dont u need a reg and barrel? if so tack on another 210 for that. Ill look around for you and see what i can come up with.

[TLplus84]

hrmm...maybe 550?

[TLplus84]

hrmm...maybe MAYBE 600..and i really want a cocker

[MC Escher]

ok, 600 with what options??
600 for gun reg and barrel?
600 for gun and barrel?
600 for gun and reg?
600 for gun only?

you see, specify your options and preferences.

[TLplus84]

600 for gun and barrel, i have the money for a vigilante..

[MC Escher]

GREAT!! 600+reg money
I found a great deal on the ans genX extreme cocker

BBTpaintball.com has them with ans reg and barrel for 669.99 take the 600 for your gun and reg money, put 'em together and you can own the beauty in any color (aside Chrome)
this one is in red:
http://www.pbreview.com/fpics/MC Escher021201214509ANSgenxcocker2-$699.jpg

[TLplus84]

i heard ans pneumatics were absolute CRAP..taht's why i stayed away from that...

[Freakazoid]

Intimidator :D Just like they say, "It's like talking trash to your opponent, without saying a word" or something....Yea it's kinda expensive but it looks real 'intimidating' :)

[TLplus84]

its a nice gun..but i'm gonna get a cocker..i decided to do the following:
2000 cocker-335
benchmark frame-55
Lapco Bigshot-50
Vigilante-55
Nitro Duck Tuff Skin Adj. output 3000 psi 68 ci tank-215
new 3 way-30
titanium pump rod-10

if I do that, the total will be 750...cheaper than the Image cocker, and i can always send my gun to Sin Customs for custom ano....what do you guys think?

[MC Escher]

ooooo, i thought you already had N2, the image plus nitro would run you well over a grand in $$.

[Predator2]

that looks like a kick a** setup! put the pic it on a thread so we can all see it! AFTER AFTER the custom ano from sin.

[Counterfeit]

Originally posted by TLplus84
its a nice gun..but i'm gonna get a cocker..i decided to do the following:
2000 cocker-335
benchmark frame-55
Lapco Bigshot-50
Vigilante-55
Nitro Duck Tuff Skin Adj. output 3000 psi 68 ci tank-215
new 3 way-30
titanium pump rod-10

if I do that, the total will be 750...cheaper than the Image cocker, and i can always send my gun to Sin Customs for custom ano....what do you guys think?
Dyes frames are a little better in my opinion.
Also if your going to go nitro, do not get nitro duck, they are way overpriced and I have heard some horror stories about their customer service. A much better tank for the same price is the AGD flateline, but that is just my opinion.
Also when you get a 3-way valve Bomb's are great.

[TLplus84]

hrmm yeah maybe i'll get hte AGD...and the bomb 3 way definitly i heard MAD good things about that..what about the ram and reg? for now can i keep them stock? and if i aws to upgrade..what should i get? i've heard good things about the Palmer's Rock reg...i have no clue about the ram...damn i sound like a newbie..

[MC Escher]

my shocktech front end has a shock bomb 4way, Rock/FPG reg with adjustable knob and a STO swivel head ram. If i can find a shock lp chamber, that will be on there too. Over all i think its an awesome set up.

[TLplus84]

iv'e heard alot of good stuff about the STO Ram..is it worth it?

[MC Escher]

its nice because it has polished internals, a swivel head for easy air connections, and a nice, sturdy black matte and chrome finsih. The action is very smooth and it works great wiht compressed air. I would also suggest the stainless steal mini-ram. That is a very short, sturdy ram desgined for compressed air and it will give you an optimum short return cycle. Im not sure about palmers ram, i never heard how it works.

[TLplus84]

doesn't the new cockers come with STO rams? or is taht STO 3 ways...i forgot..

[MC Escher]

they come with a lower version of the sto 4 way. The ram is standard. The 4 way is not polished nor is it made of aluminum or steel. It is brass along with the ram.