Thats it.. im sick of this gun

[spedchild1]

im at the field tryin to set up my evil lpr once again. finally i installed a reg to decifer my bolt press. This piece of **** cant lower pressure at all, man, Evil (pmi) makes a damn good paint, and becuase of that, they think they can sell crap products at high end prices and anyone will buy them, im done with this company, thats it.
Anyway, while setting this so called lpr, my soleniod went out, now im waitin on the shop..... shoulda just made my cocker electro, and stayed outta this whole impy thing.... everyones right... the amount of money you end up dumpin in these things is amazing, in the long run, you might as well buy a matrix or a timmy, yeah im f'ed now.. im done wit my impy, im not lettin it ruin one more night of PB for me... no longer will i spend all night at the tech desk while my gun is in pieces, as my teamates have some well earned fun......... back to the cocker forums boys, im out.

[Crick.]

Originally posted by spedchild1
im out.

Where you ever in ?

And BTW, just because you don't know how to tech an impulse is no reason for you being disappointed in your gun because YOU obviously don't know what your doing and cause all the problems yourself. The amount of money we "dump into these things" is no different than any other gun. You cocker owners put all that stuff on yours to make them shoot, god knows you people don't leave a "stock cocker" stock for long. And please, too much money ? why buy a 400 frame when you can buy a 400 dollar gun that was actually meant to be electro. If people want to buy matrices or timmys thats their opinion. Thats a whole nother area of interest and I highly doubt they will get any swaying towards those markers from your post.

You say you wont let your impulse ruin another night of play for you; What it should really be saying is that you wont ruin another night for your impy.

get out of these forums and go grab onto your cocker.

[thebluenu]

Originally posted by Crick.


Where you ever in ?

And BTW, just because you don't know how to tech an impulse is no reason for you being disappointed in your gun because YOU obviously don't know what your doing and cause all the problems yourself. The amount of money we "dump into these things" is no different than any other gun. You cocker owners put all that stuff on yours to make them shoot, god knows you people don't leave a "stock cocker" stock for long. And please, too much money ? why buy a 400 frame when you can buy a 400 dollar gun that was actually meant to be electro. If people want to buy matrices or timmys thats their opinion. Thats a whole nother area of interest and I highly doubt they will get any swaying towards those markers from your post.

You say you wont let your impulse ruin another night of play for you; What it should really be saying is that you wont ruin another night for your impy.

get out of these forums and go grab onto your cocker.

ouch......

anyways, i have myself jumped outa the impulse bandwagon, but for a very different reason... as always for me, the grass is always "greener" elsewhere.... sigh, and i complain about pb prices :laugh:

just tryin em all out i suppose :eyes:

if anyone ever has a problem with an impulse, they should at least give pb review a chance....... :rolleyes:

meh....

[Prophecy2112]

I'll admit I've had problems with my impulse. The FSDO is so bad now that the ball doesnt even roll out of the barrel. I have fire it several times and then squeegee the hell outta my barrel. This is all with a stock Vision Impulse. Anyways, I owned a cocker. Impulses are 10 times easier to tech than any cocker I've ever touched. Hands down. And the E Blade has more problems than Michael Jackson. I very much assure you that if you spent anytime learning about the gun you purchased, you would never need to see a tech. Im tired of this crap. Learn first, then buy. Who knows, maybe you'll graduate to noobie status.

Regards,
Prophecy

[Alpha1]

The Evil LPR goes past 240 PSI. Its your fault that you cranked it up too high. DONT blame great products for user mistakes.

[Cocker Killer23]

Damn, spedchild got burned and to top it off he prolly feels like a big dumb *****.

Go Crick!!!!!!

[DasBaldDog]

Keep it civil folks.

The one thing that did confuse me.... was the comment about how much money you have to dump into them... and he seems to think that cockers are better in this respect.

Having NEVER seen this dude in this or any other Impulse forum whatsoever, I don't think he even OWNS an impulse.

[suddenpaint]

LOL...something having more problems than michael jackson....:laugh:

[FOM]

While it is obviously too little to late...

If you have an evil LPR and it is not making any difference in the solenoid pressure, 99% sure you have a bad o-ring. When you install the evil LPR, the little part that goes into the solenoid chamber has a couple of o-rings on it. If you clcok it a bit when you first put it in, the tighten the center to "fource" it into the chamber, the O-ring will be riped by the threads and while the LPR wokes just fine- full pressure air from the valve chamber leaks past the o-ring. In effect you have "bypassed" the LPR.

One has to wonder how you screwed up your solenoid. If you used the 200 PSI input pressure we have recomend here- even with the air bypassing the o-ring the selenoid would be safe. If you followed the install instructions on the evil site, the transplanted PRV (mounted on the back of the gun) would have protected your solenoind.

The problem with cocker owners is that most EXSPECT to screw with their guns, so the hours they spend retiming and tracing air leaks is "normal" while pulling a hammer assembly to lube the o-rings on a differt gun is "excessive"

The Evil LPR can be a wonderful product. BUT you have to use it in combination with the evial valve to get its best preformance and frankly, the o-rings they furnish are too hard so the "trick" to installing them is to use 70 deneer o-rings.

Sorry you had such a bad experince, but I suspect you will move thru a lot of other guns and find a lot of things wrong with each of them in the future.

[spedchild1]

hey thanks FOM, it seems at least one of you has a heart...........oh yeah and by the way, i have a dye cocker, and i have put no upgrades on it... spen 799. I spent over 560 dollars on upgrades alone for my imp.... hmmm, totaly topping the cocker. and for what, a gun that is as problematic as a stock 99 sto. i know how to tech a gun, and even the imp tech at my field was there when settin the lpr, and never did we go above 200 psi. listen, it is my opinion to drop this gun. and it is also my opinion that guns such as timmys and matrixs shoot much better for the money... so you guys keep rippin away at me, becuase i know im makin a change for the better...........

[ShockerGEEk]

Ill give ya $100 for your "BROKEN" Impy. LMK

[ThyDayWalker]

I SERIOULSY believe impys are bettas than cockers when it comes to money on them. EVERYONE on my team had cockers and now bought Impys/Timmys. All of them had stock cockers when we began and had over 1grand on each. I don't say this soy ou think were rich people (we really arent cuz this took us 1+ years to get them to this upgrade). 2 of my teammates have stock impulses w/ 300-400 on them (this makes 700-800 from 400 stock) and shoot TOTALLY good (besides, they were msotly cosmetic cuz this gunz shoot great out of the box). Fot timmys, one of my teammates baought a costy (Dragon) one so its expensive. Also, cockers are BY FAR harder to tech than electros. But they are the most custumyzable(yes wrote that wrongly) gunz. Letz face it guys, cockers are like Nokias(cell phones): you find TONS of unimaginable pieces for em EVERYWHERE! .:laugh: . Cockers aren't all bad either.... you can customize them to your likeing and they are really accurate.

To conclude all this piece of **** I juss wrote... it really depends on what you want... WIth my Impy I can shoot 3+ times faster than a cocker while having acuraccy. If you like a gun that is hard to tech (oh no i dont wanna remember those damned moments it gave me on tourneys) and very customizable choose a cocker. Up to you guys.


LOL MORE PROBLEMS THAN MICHAEL JACKSON!?!?!? LOL :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Cocker Killer23]

Spedchild, or anyone else. correct me If i'm wrong but can you even spend $560 on upgrades for an impulse.

[mipaint]

If you include goodies like an I frame you could-- or if you bought and tried out several of the same thing-- like half a dozon different bolts

Example lets say he didn't know about EPBO and bought the evil lpr/valve/hammer/bolt, he could ealily have $250 there (rember you can't use EPBO prices--you have to assume he got raped. then a frame-- $150 and not doubt grips $15 and he would prob include a barrel set $200 then a feed neck $30 and maybe a back cap $15-- and no doubt paying a lot of shipping--

[spedchild1]

easily, the gun stock was 700 (3 color fade)
-evil lpr-110
-vision drop in kit-200
-freak back SS ( i had fronts)-75
- Toxic trigger- 25
- stickies- 25
- Evil valve- 35
- nd low rise- 30
- nd derlin bolt- 35
- nd full flow asa- 46
- mini reg for bolt press- 20
- ti pull pin- 20 heh- thats an easy 621 dollars right there, and thats no it. hmmm... now let me see, as for my sick cocker, 799 no upgrades. shoots amazin as well. now here is the thing guys, this is a great gun, i loved my old impy that i sold to get this one. And ever since i got this one, ive had nuttin but troubles. It may have just been a problematic gun, but it is the truth. I love imps, cockers, angels, timmys.... i love em all, but i truly believe a 2003 cocker with an eblade will outpreform any imp... let alone my dye with an eblade. thats all im sayin, dont misinterpret me as an imp hater im not.
oh yeah. nice anology walker.... i woulda compared em more to rice burners...lol, all jap or chinese products i guess actaully..

[Prophecy2112]

no no, we werent call you an impulse hater. just ignorant. there is a difference.

You're first post mentioned nothing of owning a previous impulse. nor did it say anything that would lead us to believe you understand how an impulse works or how to fix it. You also overpaid extreme amounts on quite a few of your upgrades. And after all of that, you still couldnt fix your LPR? and you want to go back to an autococker? Some people I'll never understand.

Regards,
Prophecy

[i like tictacs]

<crick>>I love that every single case of an Impulse's problems is immediatley troubleshooted as "Just because you can't tech it..." Total bull. There is nothing but threads like this in the Impulse forum now. "My gun chops," "I hate this gun," "That's it, I've had it!"


Impulses have some problems that need to be ironed out. Can't you just get it through your thick heads?


I read the first reply and just posted this, so in otherwords the rest of this thread= tl; dr. And, the only money I dumped into an Angel is what I paid for it, and it hasn't had a single problem.
</<crick>

[checkyourhopper]

I happen to agree that Timmy are great guns (I won't say the same about Angels) and that Impulses can be problematic. Take for instance mine, I've sent it to Smart Parts four times in less than two years to get fixed. That's not counting all the times I went to a Smart Parts tech during a tournament and had them fix it there. (And I would put my tech ability up against most people, except the EPBO folks of course) I had this leak that no one could find, (it ended up being that I had a bad hammer assembly), my board shorted out after it got wet from playing in the rain, the vision on my cricket board has stopped being able to read paint for some reason and when I first got the marker it had severe FSDO and needed several o-rings to be replaced (and that was brand new straight out of the box).

With that being said, I love my Impulse when it works. I went through this three-month period where it was just ripping. Man, it still brings a tear to my eye thinking about those good times. I would go on the field and gass up and chrono and not have to change a single setting. It was awesome. Damn, I'm getting the chills just thinking about it.

But I digress.

I guess my point is, Impulses can have some problems. To say otherwise is just naivete (that's French for being in denial). But when they are working, man do they pack some firepower. And yes, I wish Smart Parts did more of that R and D before releasing the marker so they could work out the kinks, like what's apparently wrong with the new Cricket boards. But for those of you who want to trash Impulses, I have this to say: Dude, you are in an Impulse forum so don't be surprised when a whole bunch of Impulse owners get ticked off at you.

[spedchild1]

Checkyourhopper, your totally right bro, as for prophecy, im sorry, you know not all people save every single goddamn reciept, so, at my harsh and dearest regret prophecy, some of the prices may be off. and, oh yes, even the imp tech at my shop couldnt get the lpr runnin, and as ive heard from a couple of impulse users on GZ "evil makes good paint, thats bout it" and that whole part about goin back to my autococker, i never left it, id never leave it for an impulse or any other marker, i swear by a good make cocker w/ an eblade... and im sure if you owned one, you'd say the same. Im not ignorant in any way, for if i was, id be writing posts more like you...hmmmm, isnt that odd! :love:

[brad2886]

What i don't get is you say that you never set the lpr past 240 psi? well if you would've left your maxflo reg at 200 psi, then the gun itself won't go above 200 psi... the lpr is not a mega booster :P

[checkyourhopper]

And to boost my earlier comment about Impulses packing some firepower...

Anyone notice that Team Strange won Mardi Gras, shooting Impulses. And the AAs also won (or should I say scored the most points), shooting Impulses. And I think Evil Factory was shooting Impulses, at least most of them were at HB..

So, the proof is in the pudding..

[DasBaldDog]

From what David told me, 3 people on Evil shot Impulses. Most of the others used Timmies.

[wolverine]

Originally posted by checkyourhopper
And to boost my earlier comment about Impulses packing some firepower...

Anyone notice that Team Strange won Mardi Gras, shooting Impulses. And the AAs also won (or should I say scored the most points), shooting Impulses. And I think Evil Factory was shooting Impulses, at least most of them were at HB..

So, the proof is in the pudding..

Detroit Thunder also shot Impulses and I don't think they did so hot.

Not trying to burst your bubble, but a fact is a fact.

[spedchild1]

That is totally irrellivant chechyourhopper, bad company shoots spyders, and there a good team, so now is spyder a good gun? just because pros use a certain gun and there team wins, doesnt mean anything, becuase there are thousands of othr teams out there who win with every sort of gun immaginable, so dont bring that in. And dont put words in my mouth Brad, i never said the lpr was a megabooster, i dont think anyone could be that lost...these threads get so twisted, its sorta like the way the taliban twists the quran, christ

[checkyourhopper]

For one thing, Bad Company isn't going around winning a whole bunch of big tournaments. I'm not saying they are a bad team, but the reason I picked those teams was because they recently won a major event and have a history of winning.

And my point was about firepower. The trend in major tournaments has been toward firepower, dumping lots of paint and fast. Take x-ball. That's what it's all about. Raining paint. I saw the first x-ball games at the IAO in Pittsburgh and Cup 02. And the pros never let off the trigger. And the way fields are set up these days, it benefits more having fast guns. Take for example HB, there were hardly any big back bunkers that have been traditional mainstays in tourney ball. Most of the back bunkers were small to mid-sized bunkers. That forced most of the action inside the 40s. The games were fast. I dont remember very many games lasting more than 5 minutes and during the whole tournament, I only saw one stalemate and that was because both teams f-ed up. I know my team was glad to have someone playing in the back with an Impulse that could send out a lot of paint.

So, I guess what I was trying to say is that the tourney ball seems to be heading toward faster guns. And there seems to be a fair amount of good teams shooting Impulses. And yes, there are good teams shooting Timmys also. Those are also good guns (and quite frankly, I'm seriously considering selling my Impy and getting a GZ Timmy). At HB, I saw very few non-electro autocockers around. Most everyone was shooting either Timmys, Impys or some electro version of the cocker like the E-blade.

This, of course, is a lengthy way of saying that working Impys are damn good markers and there are a lot of good teams that realize that.

[checkyourhopper]

Originally posted by wolverine


Detroit Thunder also shot Impulses and I don't think they did so hot.

Not trying to burst your bubble, but a fact is a fact.

Yes, that is a fact.

But how many teams did poorly at MGO, along with Detroit Thunder. A lot. Now, how many teams won first place. A handful. Of that handful of winning teams, how many shot Impulses? It seems to me that Impys had a good showing.

That's all I was trying to say.

[ThyDayWalker]

What ya'll guys r saying it TOTALLY true. Go see one uf those big tourneys or buy a recent video and ull c that most guys have Impys, Timmys, Angels and VERY FEW have electro cockers and VERY VERY FEWER have non-electro cockers. Not that cockers are bad (i luv them), but nowadays electros are picking up fame and to be cometitive you have to be dumping paint at the enemy just as they dump paint at you, and quite frankly, shooting fast without chopping a cocker is VERY hard.

[Terminator1]

Originally posted by checkyourhopper
And to boost my earlier comment about Impulses packing some firepower...

Anyone notice that Team Strange won Mardi Gras, shooting Impulses. And the AAs also won (or should I say scored the most points), shooting Impulses. And I think Evil Factory was shooting Impulses, at least most of them were at HB..

So, the proof is in the pudding..

Hee Hee I like that post, you need to post that in the Angel column here!! :-)

[DasBaldDog]

Dude,

I totally agree.......

[suddenpaint]

ok everyone...take a big deep breath.....there ya go...remember....PLAYERS make the gun....its not the GUN that makes the player...:rolleyes:
so everbody taek a chilll pil and reeeelax!;)

[thebluenu]

Originally posted by suddenpaint
ok everyone...take a big deep breath.....there ya go...remember....PLAYERS make the gun....its not the GUN that makes the player...:rolleyes:
so everbody taek a chilll pil and reeeelax!;)

i like that, but i also like to note what most high end guns have in common...... they shoot fast, and most dont chop (due to good hoppers)

so no one go about saying a "pro" with a talon can beat everyone.... speed does mean something, and thats somthing most "high end guns" have in common

[themann2003]

Oh my God, it's been quite awhile since I've been in a thread that had didn't have a topic in the first place and then got of topic :eyes:

Heh, anyways, I would say too that my old Impulse was problematic, but in the end, it was all user error :o .....so, now that it's all fixed and done, I'm selling it :D but I'm going right back and buying a new Impulse, as a project marker. I love the feel and sound of Impulses...they give me the sensations that my cockers didn't, but I'm not saying cockers are worse OR better than Imps. It's all personal preferences, and depends on your cash flow, heh.

I do have to say though that I would much, MUCH rather buy an Impulse than any kind of electronic kit for my cocker. I just cannot justify spending over 400 bucks of hard earned cash to just make an already incredible gun shoot faster. Just doesn't make since to me. I traded for an Impulse because of bang-for-your-buck value, but, I keep my old cocker sitting and waiting in case something goes wrong. There's nothing wrong with owning both, is there?

Well, sorry to here that your Impulse broke down on ya, but like I said, 99% of my problems were user errors :| ....

I guess what I'm trying to say here is:

Impulses rule, don't leave the family yet.

[checkyourhopper]

First, I think everyone on this thread has been really civil which is refreshing. There is nothing wrong with us disagreeing with each other, as long as we do it without insults and taunts.

I agree that players shoot players. But you must admit that paintball is unlike most sports when it comes to equipment. For example, in soccer, wearing high-end cleats and shin pads doesn't mean you will play better. Same goes with football and baseball. But in paintball, equipment does matter. If two pro teams are playing and one is using pump guns and the other is using high-end Impulses, who has a better chance of winning? Take tennis, that sport has evolved because of racket technology. Rallies used to be much longer as players actually had to set up winning shots. Now, because tennis rackets are now so powerful, professional tennis is now mostly a serve and volley game. The same is happening, in my opinion, in paintball. Markers are getting faster and better so the game is evolving. It's inevitable.

[spedchild1]

I just Got the gun back from SP, it turns out i had a faulty board and solenoid, they replaced them all and updated the parts, i asked the rep if any of it was user error, he said no, it was deffective pieces to begin with....as for that matter, they switched out all my old stock parts with new working ones.... and by the way, i do think a cocker w/ eblade and the eye can keep up with any impulse TheDayWalker.

[themann2003]

Well, I'm glad you got it fixed. Try to have some fun with it.

[checkyourhopper]

Originally posted by spedchild1
I just Got the gun back from SP, it turns out i had a faulty board and solenoid, they replaced them all and updated the parts, i asked the rep if any of it was user error, he said no, it was deffective pieces to begin with....as for that matter, they switched out all my old stock parts with new working ones.... and by the way, i do think a cocker w/ eblade and the eye can keep up with any impulse TheDayWalker.

Did they charge you for the work?

I just spoke to Smart Parts about my marker. They said they are sending it back today. I can't wait.

[spedchild1]

nah man, all the work was covered. Sick i cant wait to gas it up.

[automag26]

hey sorry spedchild but imm going with the impulses on this one i have a cocker now and i just got bored wiht it i got sick and tired of having to tune it and squeege my barrel after every shot then have f****** gun break while im sitting there shooting it its just not to good when u are shooting 13 bps at first then u are about to bunker someone then have your gun fall apart when u are runniing after just not to cool at all so im done wiht the cockers and im moving on to the impys i know about 6-7 people here in ohio that have some sweet impys and they never break a ball and they shoot at some high speeds i shot one the other day and loved it its ALOT better than my cocker

[spedchild1]

well thats what happens when people buy crappy cockers, or ones that have been upgraded heavily, thats when probs are seen. But on a good make (SFL, Dye) you wont ever see probs like that (if gun is properly maintained)

[SpUnKy-BoLtOn]

hey automag26 where in Ohio r u? Do you ever play at splatterpark?

Anyways, I could be wrong on this one, but I dont see how a cocker could cycle at 15-16 balls per second like an impulse. I may be wrong, but it just doesnt seem logical, whereas the impulse can easily reach 17-18 BPS if u have an i-frame and a fast trigger finger.(yes, ive seen it done at my field. the guy was showing how fast his impulse was, and he outshot his egg).

But, as for the impulse breaking down, I dont see how it would unless you are given a real POS in a trade or something. They are soooo low maintanence.

[automag26]

Originally posted by SpUnKy-BoLtOn
hey automag26 where in Ohio r u? Do you ever play at splatterpark?

Anyways, I could be wrong on this one, but I dont see how a cocker could cycle at 15-16 balls per second like an impulse. I may be wrong, but it just doesnt seem logical, whereas the impulse can easily reach 17-18 BPS if u have an i-frame and a fast trigger finger.(yes, ive seen it done at my field. the guy was showing how fast his impulse was, and he outshot his egg).

But, as for the impulse breaking down, I dont see how it would unless you are given a real POS in a trade or something. They are soooo low maintanence.

i never said 15-16 i said 13 but yeah i got it there i live in green its in akron

spedchild this cocker is not crappy besides the body but i dont care i dont really like it anyways so im going after an impy

[SpUnKy-BoLtOn]

I wasnt referring you when i said that. I was talking to whoever said an e-cocker could keep up with an impulse.

P.S. Cool, i live in strongsville in Cuyahoga.

[checkyourhopper]

Wow, I can't believe this thread is still going.

I figure I'll add my two cents, completely apropos of nothing.

I recently bought a 2003 Honda Civic and I already have caught myself thinking: "I wonder what things I can buy to upgrade this car. Maybe a spoiler. Some allow wheels. Tinted windows. Better internals.'' That's when I realize that paintball really is a sickness.

Anyone else feel that way?

[SpUnKy-BoLtOn]

Originally posted by checkyourhopper
Wow, I can't believe this thread is still going.

I figure I'll add my two cents, completely apropos of nothing.

I recently bought a 2003 Honda Civic and I already have caught myself thinking: "I wonder what things I can buy to upgrade this car. Maybe a spoiler. Some allow wheels. Tinted windows. Better internals.'' That's when I realize that paintball really is a sickness.

Anyone else feel that way?

:laugh:

I no exactly what u mean. One day when I was screwing on the cap on a milk carton, i was doin it real slow thinkin to myself "ok dont strip it now".

[spedchild1]

lol...rice burners

[checkyourhopper]

Originally posted by SpUnKy-BoLtOn


:laugh:

I no exactly what u mean. One day when I was screwing on the cap on a milk carton, i was doin it real slow thinkin to myself "ok dont strip it now".

Now that's funny.