Why dont Headshots count?

[beasty1711]

On all of my local fields, headshots dont count.
Is this just because of safty or is there another reason thats more associted with the game??


Ta

[paintedmonkey16]

hmm that's a bit unusual...head shots should always count as a hit.

[Magnus55]

They count where I play at. In fact most places count them.

[c0ck3r_b0i]

thats dumb, ive never heard of headshots not counting. i mean, jeez, thats the only reason why i am so good:D T3H GOG MAST3R

[beasty1711]

okie dokie.. so it looks like its just odd fields near me then.
I presume they count in tourny's then aswell

[c0ck3r_b0i]

you better beleive it.:)

[thebluenu]

Originally posted by beasty1711
On all of my local fields, headshots dont count.
Is this just because of safty or is there another reason thats more associted with the game??


Ta

thats just wierd......

[RusskiX]

beasty,

You are right that in the good old days some fields did NOT count headshots in order to discourage shots to goggles. This was largely at the insurers request.

This policy has been abandoned by every field out there (except yours apparently:laugh: ) with the advance in goggle safety and marker technology.

All major tournament circuits and 99% of insured fields don't worry about headshots anymore.

Of course I still frequent one local field that doesn't count gun hits, even though most tournies call you out for a hit to the marker. Idiosyncracies I guess.

[ttccmm123]

i've never heard of head hits dont count

[Killer Kat]

They count at all the fields I've ever played at, In fact I could count the lumps & bumps from some of them on my own head! :laugh:

[beasty1711]

so ok, with head shots counting... i presume you will need to swop lens's fairly regularly after being gogged??

[ZeroSkillet]

No, Ive gotten googed plenty of times and Ive never had to change my lens. I inspect it before each game too.

Man that no headshot rules is stupid . That means you can peak out the bunker and they can hit you. I would put marker on floor shooting with my head sticking out. LOL.

Your fields must be ran by noobs.

[Killer Kat]

Replacing lenses should be done after being gogged several times, small undetected cracks can be deadly!

After all what is your vision worth? :eyes:

[Jaster]

I've been playing for a long time and I've only heard of that once before. But that was back in the days of splatmasters and such. Only because the masks then were just goggles that covered just your eyes.

[Calebd2]

How would that work? Isnt that quite hard to avoid the head? We aren't using sniper rifles

[Killer Kat]

Body shots only! They'd still get hit in the head they just didn't count as out. Hence it discouraged headshots all together, plus running around the woods with nothing but safety glasses with side shields isn't exactly my idea of safe fun!

[tourny_wannabe]

i got gogged 7 times in one elimination......those lenses went to hell

there was 3 cracks in them, keep in mine this was close shots, and the guy kept shooting even after i was called out after the first shot, i eventually just went into the fetile posistion and got shot on the neck

every field i've played at counts gun and head shots, this is the first time i've ever heard of a field that doesn't count head shots.

[PB_Rhyno]

Half the fields I play walk-on at don't count headshots.

[Ebonclaw]

That's insanly stupid...why do you think they make masks? PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET HIT IN THE HEAD!

Inspect your mask after you get gogged closely when you clean it, if you don't see anything like a crack, it's fine, but like KK said, you should replace the lense after it happens periodically.

When you go to one of the other 3 billion fields, aim for whatever you can shoot. I'd say more like 99.99% of fields allow head shots. I have no idea why yours won't. Let me guess, no bunkering either?

[PAX IMPERIALIS]

That is retarded. My field says avoid head shots if you can but if that's all you can hit go for it. So your field won't count head shots... but i bet they count the strap of your harness as out right? What crap :rolleyes:

[poolshark5226]

On my field bunkering is optional. Unfortunately, there are always newbs on my field who are afraid (although if it were my first time I would be too) and it only takes one person for there to be no bunkering. So I've only played bunkering a few times. :( :mad:

[Cadet2005]

There is a field aroudn here that discourages headshots but they recognize that ultimately it is inveitable and you will get shot in the head soetimes and they call you out...I think no headshots is insane because when you poke your head out to shoot mor eoften than not the head and gun are the only two parts exposed...I think aiming at the head is kinda dumb when you have more of the body to shoot at (Obviously if the ehad is the only thing sticking out take the shot) because of the smaller target area...but I don't think a headshot couldn't count.

[beasty1711]

i must admit i did think it was pretty stupid, as one of the games i just sat behind a bail, with just my head sticking out....i must have taken about 30- 40 head shots...(i marshall had to come and wipe my lens so i could see what was happening) and then when they decided to make a storm on the base i just opened up, as most of them had already used 90% of their balls on my head etc.

luckily they were site gogs so i didnt have to worry about the lens, but i did make sure that i switched them with someone else in the break

[Coal-Cracker]

Originally posted by RusskiX

Of course I still frequent one local field that doesn't count gun hits, even though most tournies call you out for a hit to the marker. Idiosyncracies I guess.


Same as the one field I go to.
In addition, if it is a woodsball game, shots below the elbow and knee also do not count. This is only to prolong the game of course, as this obviously isn't intended as a safety regulation.

[tourny_wannabe]

Originally posted by Coal-Cracker



Same as the one field I go to.
In addition, if it is a woodsball game, shots below the elbow and knee also do not count. This is only to prolong the game of course, as this obviously isn't intended as a safety regulation.

thats the most retarded thing ever

[Cadet2005]

Coal-Cracker, do you play at a field who does sort of "milsim" or scenario type games because then that would make sense...obviously they are trying to reflect "fatal" wounds when playing with the old saying "hit=kill" being held as true...I think it is all right for a game like that but at a lot of fields that rule might be misconstrued as dumb.

[Coal-Cracker]

Originally posted by Cadet2005
Coal-Cracker, do you play at a field who does sort of "milsim" or scenario type games because then that would make sense...obviously they are trying to reflect "fatal" wounds when playing with the old saying "hit=kill" being held as true...I think it is all right for a game like that but at a lot of fields that rule might be misconstrued as dumb.

The place in question is Skirmish, USA in Jim Thorpe, PA. Not sure it would exactly qualify as a mil-sim/scenario type of field. (Although, I am going to the "Battle of the Bulge" scenario game there tomorrow.) Skirmish has close to 50 different fields and each one has a different "feel" to it. Some are strict woodsball, others are more the speedball variety, while others would fall somewhere in between.

I'm not sure why they have that rule (by the way, headshots DO count regardless). It is generally only played when playing in the strict woodsball games and then the rule is often left open to a group vote. Like I said earlier, I just assumed it was to prolong the length of play as many of the people there are first/second timers.

Incidently, the other field I just started playing at, every hit counts - regardless of location.

[spyderman014]

thats messed up. its probably cause of safety

[tippycustom]

do you think hopper hits should count though?

[spyderman014]

if you are trying to hit someone and they are behind a bunker and all they stick out is thier head and gun how can you hit them without hitting them in the head. its not like you would try for thier gun if thier head was right there:rolleyes:

[spyderman014]

i think hopper hits should count. but that is just my opinion

[beasty1711]

yeah... everything except head counted there... problem is if u get hit on hopper with the site hoppers u hardley ever saw

[tourny_wannabe]

Originally posted by tippycustom
do you think hopper hits should count though?

why not? its part of your gun, does your gun not count?.....

if you arn't going to count hopper then just get rid of gun and head shots also, oh and anything below the waists

[egloskerry]

Any hit to the person or what the person is holding should count. You are aiming for the silhouette of the person, not necessarily their body, so why should a hopper hit not count?

[Cadet2005]

I personally hate the gun and hopper hits counting rule, particularly in speedball. I hate it because it encourages a waste of ammunition because you are firing at a tiny target (outside of the head) that is peeking around the corner and you might get one shot on it on a freak accident and you're out...I don't get out by that alot because I have learned that for a lot of people, both experienced and inexperienced, this createts a sort of "static defense" and mobility enables me to get the better shot. It encourages less tactical movement and more of a slow approach that is random and often very unplanned...for many who happen to be moving and miss my advances, it often spells sharing a bunker with the opposing man (myself). I think it slows the game and turns it into a full-fledged Mexican standoff or something close to the LA bank robbery type scene (not a direct colleration, just that there was a lot of shooting and not a lot of moving is what I am referencing to) rather than a game of agility and speed and tactical teamwork. Probably why I try and avoid speedball at times.

[pEnNyWiSdOm225]

I think hopper and gun hits should count

[Ebonclaw]

Headshots count. Ask Lasoya.

[tourny_wannabe]

Originally posted by Ebonclaw
Headshots count. Ask Lasoya.

oh snap oh snap oh snap oh snap

[pEnNyWiSdOm225]

Originally posted by Ebonclaw
Headshots count. Ask Lasoya.

:nod: :nod: :nod:


He would know:dodgy:

[Ellisd3e]

haha.thats funny.head shots dont count? haha i guess when you get gogged.. say bye bye

[magsrule]

Originally posted by Cadet2005
I personally hate the gun and hopper hits counting rule, particularly in speedball. I hate it because it encourages a waste of AMMNITION...I try and avoid speedball at times.

spoken like a true newb.