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Silent Blur
02-13-2001, 05:54 AM
Anyone ever try making smoke bombs at home? I spotted the instructions on a web site and was wondering if anyone tried it out. It says to mix 4 parts sugar to 6 parts saltpeter over a low flame, put into a container and throw in a fuse. They say one pound will fill a city block with thick white smoke. Imagine throwing one of those during a battle. Pretty cool. http://www.chemicalz.homestead.com/homemade.html For complete instructions. The only problem is where to find saltpeter??

shizocka
02-13-2001, 06:12 PM
whats saltpeter?

meason17
02-13-2001, 06:24 PM
I think you can find saltpeter at the drug store and if not you could probably ask the pharmacist because i think it's one of those chemical thingys taht tose people know all about

Not Too Shabby
02-13-2001, 07:40 PM
Saltpete is Potassium Nitrate (KNO3). The mixture that you are referring to is KNO-Sucrose rocket propellent. Yes, that's right, we use it in rocketry. It is very easy to make and relativly safe because of its low burn rate. The compound is very sensitive to humidity, however.

KNO3 can be purchased at the garden store desquised as 14-0-45 fertilizer. Sucrose is just table sugar (powdered is best.)


For a detailed description and analysis, go to: http://members.aol.com/ricnakk/propel.html#Other%20Propellants

BTW, you know that the "Po-Po" is goanna move this to off-topic forum.

TLplus84
02-14-2001, 11:48 AM
naw he's not gonna move it, this is related to painbtall; smoke bombs are used in paintball..:D:D:D

antiramie
02-14-2001, 12:07 PM
Yep, along with 9mm guns, rocket launchers, m-80 explosives, gerbils, fruitcakes, and oreos. :P:P

Predator2
02-14-2001, 12:10 PM
you can go to a pharmacy and order it. My friend ordered a pound of it to make smoke bombs at halloween. They worked awesome and its not expensive at all.

Phaelon Veritas
02-14-2001, 01:00 PM
just don't burn the woods around yur house down eh?

TrOy
02-15-2001, 03:57 PM
Ya and make sure to add some of that Saltpeter to your diet! Its like Anti-Viagra! Use it before your paintball games and it will give you better consentration on your game! LOL KIDDING DONT DO IT! It is a chemical used to "Keep the little guy from growing!"

Predator2
02-15-2001, 06:20 PM
r u serious troy?!?

TLplus84
02-15-2001, 07:22 PM
oops.....:eek: lol j/k i always wanted to do taht hahah

TrOy
02-16-2001, 06:38 AM
PRDETR2
Yes I am! Saltpeter keeps Capt. Richard Johnson down!LOL

Predator2
02-16-2001, 09:04 AM
does it have any permanent side effects or is it just for a little amount of time like a week. Cause it sounds like a good prank.

MP879
02-16-2001, 09:14 AM
How do you mix that stuff, do you just like put it all in a cup over a flame and it automatically mixes? Do you have to like pound it together or somethin? And whats the best kind of packaging for it, can you just like rap it up in tissues, light a string attached and let er rip?

polarbear
02-16-2001, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Phaelon Veritas
I'm sorry Miss Jackson I am for Real....

My daughter says; "It's Ms. Jackson,
duh!"

Personally I miss the OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH

Ref
02-17-2001, 09:21 AM
Dude..if you're gonna make it, do it outside! And don't ever try to melt it in the microwave! OMG that would suck..lol

Not Too Shabby
02-17-2001, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by MP879
How do you mix that stuff, do you just like put it all in a cup over a flame and it automatically mixes? Do you have to like pound it together or somethin? And whats the best kind of packaging for it, can you just like rap it up in tissues, light a string attached and let er rip?

You have to grind it up the grains to a very smooth powder and mix it throughly. The best way to mix it is to place it in a tumbler overnight. Afterwards, you heat it up in a pot of some kind to around 200 F. Stir constantly to get a good consistency. This will give you a liquid mixture that you pour into a mold. A mold can easily be made with sections of 1" PVC pipe. You could even cast it in a toilet paper tube so it will be easy to handle. It will harden in about 45 minutes or so. You can place a fuse in it while it hardens.

This stuff has to be kept AWAY from humidity. Humidity will ruin it. Ziplock bags will work fine untill your ready to use them.

MP879
02-17-2001, 04:04 PM
How does it go from a powder to a liquid? Do you have to heat it up in water or somethin?

SmartBall
02-17-2001, 05:20 PM
The neat thing about custom making them is that you can have like little 1 inch ones or big 2 feet (maybe not) ones so you have an array of lenghts to make them in, not just the standered ones that are like 8 inches.

Not Too Shabby
02-17-2001, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by MP879
How does it go from a powder to a liquid? Do you have to heat it up in water or somethin?


No. It melts into a liquid. One of the main ingredients is sugar, and sugar melts.

ganxxter2010
02-17-2001, 09:17 PM
ia heard it van light grass onfire how does it do that?? when it gets lit what does it do just start smokin away or sommething like that??

Brazen
02-17-2001, 09:30 PM
one of my old fields had smoke bombs, it just makes things harder......trust me.

PaintKiller
02-17-2001, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by Silent Blur
Anyone ever try making smoke bombs at home? I spotted the instructions on a web site and was wondering if anyone tried it out. It says to mix 4 parts sugar to 6 parts saltpeter over a low flame, put into a container and throw in a fuse. They say one pound will fill a city block with thick white smoke. Imagine throwing one of those during a battle. Pretty cool. http://www.chemicalz.homestead.com/homemade.html For complete instructions. The only problem is where to find saltpeter??

HAHAHAHA i went there last week they show how to make paint grens. and a paint launcher i laughed so much when i saw this post because i went there last week.
I wanted to know how to make a paint gren.

PaintKiller
02-17-2001, 09:44 PM
So if i eat the stuff my peppy will not grow oops.
Time for some viagra...LOL

Not Too Shabby
02-18-2001, 09:14 AM
It's just as safe as carrying around pressurized CO2 and firing balls of paint at nearly 300 mph.

PaintKiller
02-18-2001, 09:33 AM
Hey if i am shooting at 300 FPS how many MPH is that???

Not Too Shabby
02-18-2001, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by PaintKiller
Hey if i am shooting at 300 FPS how many MPH is that???

205 mph. I was exaggerating.

Ref
02-18-2001, 12:19 PM
KNO3 can be purchased at the garden store desquised as 14-0-45 fertilizer.

Is it safe to breath that stuff in when it burns?

PaintKiller
02-18-2001, 12:26 PM
Why dont we look online.
Yeah i wounder if its safe to breath in.
Probley not.

Not Too Shabby
02-18-2001, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by Ref
KNO3 can be purchased at the garden store desquised as 14-0-45 fertilizer.

Is it safe to breath that stuff in when it burns?

I don't think it would be any more dangerous than firework smoke. Just don't use the smokebombs in an enclosed area.

TLplus84
02-18-2001, 02:44 PM
or breathe it on purpose..tha's just dumbn..

Ref
02-18-2001, 07:08 PM
Well, I doubt that the head ref here would like it if I through smoke bombs behind bunkers during a game, especially if the smoke was harmful to breathe. But what I was thinking about doing was buying or creating a paintball LAW (bazooka) and loading smoke bombs in toilet paper tubes into the barrel. That would be the ****!

*FRAG OUT! :Vhoomp!: "What the **** was that?" "****! This crap smells like fertilizer!"*

Muhahahahahaaaa....

TLplus84
02-18-2001, 07:10 PM
uhh..did someone fart?:eek:

Creek
02-19-2001, 08:17 AM
thought the post was smoke bomds not stink bomds lol

Ref
02-19-2001, 11:18 AM
14-0-45 fertilizer. I think it would smell a bit. Don't you?

ganxxter2010
02-19-2001, 03:06 PM
do u have to mix it with salt or does the ferilizer come ready and u just need sugar and wats a good way to grind it if u dont have something fancy like a tumbler

Not Too Shabby
02-19-2001, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by ganxxter2010
do u have to mix it with salt or does the ferilizer come ready and u just need sugar and wats a good way to grind it if u dont have something fancy like a tumbler

I have never heard about anyone mixing it with salt. A coffee grinder will work great for grinding up the pellets.

ganxxter2010
02-25-2001, 11:11 AM
does it have to be over a flame and how tell if u have the rigt temp???

Mr. Kitty
02-25-2001, 11:22 AM
he downed a bottle of pep pills and a bottle of sleep pills to ballance it out and then he was like all hyper..... and then sleepy......and then hyper........ and then sleepy.

That would be neat if you took viagra and salt peter at the same time. Ur trowser snake would be all excited and big... and then calm down, and then get excited again..... and then calm down........ lol :)

TLplus84
02-25-2001, 11:31 AM
Originally Posted by Mr.Kitty
That would be neat if you took viagra and salt peter at the same time. Ur trowser snake would be all excited and big... and then calm down, and then get excited again..... and then calm down........ lol
how would you know? you try it before?:eek:

Mr. Kitty
02-25-2001, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by TLplus84

Originally Posted by Mr.Kitty
That would be neat if you took viagra and salt peter at the same time. Ur trowser snake would be all excited and big... and then calm down, and then get excited again..... and then calm down........ lol
how would you know? you try it before?:eek:



No, but I learn all my life lessons from the Simpson's!

[Edited by Mr. Kitty on 02-25-2001 at 06:35 PM]

PaintKiller
02-25-2001, 02:15 PM
U mean THE SIMPSONS.
I allways watch that show I saw every episode.
Like the one where Homer and bart use fireworks to fix everything...lol
Oh and its on today Sunday on channel 5 at 8:00 pm
And week days same channel at 7:00 & 11:00 pm

Cory
02-25-2001, 02:55 PM
Go to ebay and search for potassium nitrate and you can get the stuff for like 5 bucks a pound.

Ref
02-26-2001, 02:40 PM
Cool...I gotta check that out...

Batman
02-26-2001, 03:26 PM
You can get killed making one of those bombs. why not just go out and play paintball or something that wont kill you? go to your local newbie game and snipe those little Brush-hungry newbies out of the shoes (white flashy nike sneakers)

Not Too Shabby
02-26-2001, 04:04 PM
nope. It won't kill you.

PaintKiller
02-26-2001, 04:57 PM
Shiny nike shoes???
I where shiny shoes when I play.!!!!!

CRUCIATUS
02-27-2001, 06:29 AM
Well, I tried to go to the local fertilizer store and asked for that 14-0-45 and they had never heard of it. Then I went to a local CVS (pharmacy) and of course, there was a very hot girl at the counter when I leaned over and had to say ,, " do you guys have any saltpeter", yeah, i looked cool. They didnt have any either. I cant find this stuff.

PaintKiller
02-27-2001, 10:55 AM
I live a few blocks from a cvs.
I like hot girls. They all work at the bakery next store.
Oh and that had to be enbaresing asking that.
U should of asked for that and a box of condoms.
HEHEEH

Ref
02-27-2001, 06:10 PM
*Brings up 5 boxes of condoms, baby oil, the new SI swimsuit edition, a perscription for Viagra to the counter*

"Can I have a 15lb tub of granulated saltpeter for when I'm finished?"

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

PaintKiller
02-27-2001, 09:52 PM
Any one watch THE SIMPSONS????

The one where ned lets the simpsons use there summer house for the 4th of july.
Then homer goes to the store to see if they have fire works he goes yeah i would have tv guied box of condoms and he asks for a lot more stuff then he goes and some fire works...lol
I love that show.
Then he goes to use then and he has nothing to light them
so he uses the stove and then he throughes it in the dish washer hehe funny.....DOH!!!!

richpyro
04-10-2001, 06:57 PM
I am currently awaiting my first order of saltpeter. I will be making about 5 pounds into smoke bombs and the other 5 pounds into rocket propellent. I will let everyone know how the smoke bombs turn out. I play paintball and am going to use them. Currently I use an automag rt all decked out.

simon woodstock
04-10-2001, 07:13 PM
i can't find salt peter at the pharmacy :( i gotta check the garden store, at least i know what it is now, i always used to make stuff from the anarchist cookbook but i never knew what saltpeter was so i could make half the stuff. but now all i have to do is find a place that sells the sh!t

Joe Kavanagh
04-12-2001, 03:03 AM
Where can you buy Salt petre in the UK? I doubt whether our chemists & pharmacies sell that kind of stuff. I checked skylighter.com but they are in the US and shipping costs a bomb (bad joke). Know anyware in the UK? I'll try the Garden centres and the chemists but I doubt I'll find anything.
Joe
PS. If you like explosive from anarchists cookbook then try the plastic explosives one from bleach. We are lucky here, we can make fireworks and explosives legally without a license and I'm only 14! I found a recipy for C1, the predecessor to C4 and blew up a 2p (or 'quarter') sized amount with remote detonation equipment (nicron wire and remote controller from my cool chemistry teacher) on some remote land a mile from my house. I tell you I've never heard or seen anything like it!

Last thing, Whats best to burn it as the potasium nitrate & sucrose don't burn on their own? I'll try:
string dipped in wax
firework fuse
matches
I'll give the results here first !

Joe Kavanagh
04-12-2001, 03:06 AM
I've never actually tried the plastic explosives from bleach (I used another method) so it could be really dangerous. Don't blame me if you blow yourself up!

TrOy
04-12-2001, 06:33 AM
Ummm.... ok now you guys are starting to scare me...
But the homemade bombs down and go play paint!

paintballer
04-12-2001, 02:24 PM
anyone try this yet?????????????????????????????????????????????

richpyro
04-16-2001, 02:07 PM
so far I have had some smoke produced but not enough to consider them smoke bombs. I have been doing a 50/50 salt peter and sugar mix. I will try more salt peter. To reply to a comment a few messages back, salt peter will burn on its own. I have been making the smoke bombs in 3lb coffee cans and the salt peter burns so hot the whole can glows red from a 1/2" of mixture on the bottom. The fuse in the smoke bombs is so you do not burn yourself when the saltpeter catches on fire.

ganman
04-16-2001, 03:21 PM
they work fine exapt once i left it on my stove unatended and it kinda lit itselfe off. my wooden sppon is now a stik:) thhey will burn the ground so i make em in a pop can

memph bLeek
04-16-2001, 04:03 PM
i finally got some saltpeter from the pharmacy and i did the mixing and everything then i put the paste into a paper bag and let it solidify. thenv i just set the bag on fire in the middle of the street. the whole fu*KIng block was filled with smoke and the stuff got so hot it melted right through the asphault! the fire dept. came and i hid under my bed weeping silently and eating potato chips until they left. DONT DO THIS ON THE STREET THIS SH*T GETS MAD HOT!!!!!!!!

simon woodstock
04-16-2001, 04:49 PM
It Burned how deep throught the asphalt?!

memph bLeek
04-16-2001, 06:08 PM
about 7 inches deep. its completely nuts! seriously i dont recommend using a lot. i thought the amount i had would be fine it was far less than a pound. when the smoke started coming out i was like, "cool" but then it didnt stop! when i checked back later that day i saw the damage! oh yeah, the smoke smells like rotten eggs so i dont recommended subjecting yer nostrils to it for an extended period of time hehe

richpyro
04-17-2001, 05:42 AM
Hey, some of you successfull people, I have melted together the stuff, is the saltpeter supposed to melt too or just the sugar to stick around it. And what percent did you mix the salt peter to sugar? THanks for your help.

Joe Kavanagh
04-18-2001, 01:32 AM
You do 6 parts saly petre (potassium nitrate) to 4 parts sugar (sucrose). 60% salt petre to 40% sugar.

PaintKiller
04-18-2001, 08:54 PM
Whell why someone actually makes one tell me :)