Looking For Your Help and Suggestions...

[Harrison486]

Hey guys! Whats up? I am planning on upgrading from my Spyder Shutter, so I am planning onpurchasing an Impulse in a few months, and I have a few questions. Please help me out. :)

My Questions
1. Is there anything I should know before buying an Impulse?
2. Is the VISION worth it? Does it work as well as its meant to? I have heard that it doesnt work very well, and that it is very unreliable. Is this true?
3. Would I be better off buying a faster hopper, such as a Evlution or a Halo (instead of my Revvy) instead of buying VISON?
4. Is there anything that you would suggest buying with or at the same time as my Impulse?
5. Are custom Impulses worth the extra money? Or are custom Impulses just extra milling and annoing? Is this worth it?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanx a lot. :)

[Crick.]

http://www.kamworld.net/paintball/ImpulseFAQ.html

[Harrison486]

Ive read that many times. Im looking for answers to my questions.

[Dravion]

Originally posted by Harrison486

1. Is there anything I should know before buying an Impulse?
2. Is the VISION worth it? Does it work as well as its meant to? I have heard that it doesnt work very well, and that it is very unreliable. Is this true?
3. Would I be better off buying a faster hopper, such as a Evlution or a Halo (instead of my Revvy) instead of buying VISON?
4. Is there anything that you would suggest buying with or at the same time as my Impulse?
5. Are custom Impulses worth the extra money? Or are custom Impulses just extra milling and annoing? Is this worth it?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanx a lot. :)

#1.. everything you should know is in the FAQ.

#2.. See your other thread about vision.

#3.. See your other thread about vision

#4.. The faq tells you the difference. It's worth it if you think it's worth it. It's not our money.

[heyheyhey]

vision is worth it. get it. period.

custom imps are nice, but yes, mostly looks, but also lifetime warrenty. thats a big plus.

[Harrison486]

Well....I am mainly deciding between two guns. These two guns are: A Vision Impulse w/ Vert Reg, Tapeworm, ND Equalizer Bolt, and ND Blade trigger OR some type of NON-Vision Custom RAT Impulse...What would you suggest?

[FOM]

I already replied to this over on that OTHER fourm-- I won't retype it all here-- check your other posts

[heyheyhey]

ya, check ur other thread (s) but i'll still help

get the vision stock;)

[Crick.]

Id go for teh stock, stock imps are so fun to upgrade! I want a stock impulse :( someone give me one :(

[heyheyhey]

Originally posted by Crick.
Id go for teh stock, stock imps are so fun to upgrade! I want a stock impulse :( someone give me one :(


ya..:( me too:(

[Harrison486]

Originally posted by FOM
I already replied to this over on that OTHER fourm-- I won't retype it all here-- check your other posts

Actually you replied to my MAIN post in the other forum, but you did not give me a decision between the 2 choices of markers.

Originally posted by Crick.
Id go for teh stock, stock imps are so fun to upgrade! I want a stock impulse someone give me one

So you think I should go for the Stock Vision Imp? Should I get it completely stock or should I buy it with the new bolt and new trigger? Is it really more fun to upgrade your own gun than to buy a custom? Should I buy Vision now, even though people are telling me to wait for the WAS board?

[FOM]

Wait on the Vision, get an "air Mod" and adjustable trigger right away. If you don't already have one, get a good hopper-- egg II would be real good

[Harrison486]

Originally posted by FOM
Wait on the Vision, get an "air Mod" and adjustable trigger right away. If you don't already have one, get a good hopper-- egg II would be real good

So you say wait on the vision? So should I go for the custom rat? Or should I just get a stock impulse with a new trigger and new bolt?

[Crick.]

well, if youre gonna wait for vision, might as well get some milling! Go for the rat if you like the style, they can put whatever upgrade you want on and they have great people there!

[Harrison486]

Originally posted by Crick.
well, if youre gonna wait for vision, might as well get some milling! Go for the rat if you like the style, they can put whatever upgrade you want on and they have great people there!

But SHOULD I wait for vision? I was mainly going to buy a Custom Rat for the milling, annoing, and the fact that it came with grips and a freak barrel. I would also buy an ND Bolt and ND Trigger, but that would be the total of what I would put on the Rat. Is it worth it?

[Harrison486]

I guess these are my main options for what to do:
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Impusle w/ Vertical Max Flow, Tapeworm, ND Equalizer Bolt, ND Blade Trigger - about $450
Vision Impulse w/ Vertical Max Flow, Tapeworm, ND Bolt, and ND Blade Trigger - about $600
Non-Vision Custom Rat -- milling, annoing, vertical max flow, tapeworm, freak barrel (one insert), ND bolt, ND blade trigger - about $650
[/list=1]

[Crick.]

my vote goes to number 3. Rats come vision ready so all you have to do later when you have the money is send in your rat, and bam, vision (and probably a WAS board by then). And with thaqt, you get milling and anno, as well as options galore and all there is left to do is keep saving your pennies for vision. The gun will shoot fine without it.

[FOM]

OK-- I can't resist, I have to be a self serving jerk once in a while...

If you go with #2 ($650) and add a freak (about $110) and add grips (about $15) you have $775 invested in a plane black stock gun (a color would add about $35 to that)

And you still don't have the hammer you should have to go with the bolt, or the Ti pull pin.

With the Rat not only do you get the milling and color (if you want a color) but you also get life time free service. if you need Vision, add a WAS board for about $135 later (and most likly get a better board in the bargin)

Now if you wanted to start with $450, why not start with a "college pack" and get the blade trigger and LPR?

OK-- I'm thru being a selfserving Jerk

FOM

[Crick.]

wow, what a self serving jerk :rolleyes:


:D :D

[Gibralter]

So when he gets his impulse, even a basic one, the first thing he should get is a new frame like the Eclipse blade trigger?

[Crick.]

thats not a frame, its just a trigger. And he should get the trigger that feels best to him.

[Harrison486]

I guess these are my main options for what to do:
[list=1]
Impusle w/ Vertical Max Flow, Tapeworm, ND Equalizer Bolt, ND Blade Trigger - about $450
Vision Impulse w/ Vertical Max Flow, Tapeworm, ND Bolt, and ND Blade Trigger - about $600
Non-Vision Custom Rat -- milling, annoing, vertical max flow, tapeworm, freak barrel (one insert), ND bolt, ND blade trigger - about $650
[/list=1]

[Harrison486]

Ok guys...time to figure some stuff out. Im so indecisive :pissed: Anyway, here is the deal. Right now Im using a Spyder Shutter, and I had originally planned on upgrading the hell out of it. But I realized that upgrading it woudl be a waste since I could get such a quality gun like the Impulse for such a great price. I am planning on buying a 68/4500 nitro tank and nitro accessories very soon and then that is going to be the last thing I am going to buy for now. I am planning on using money from my birthday (end of April) and money from working (im going to start working at my birthday) to buy an Impulse. Because of this, I will not be buying my Impulse till about May or June. Now having that said, this is what I am thinking or having issues about.

I realize that since I am not going to be buying an Impulse till about May or June, that the WAS Board should be out by then. Do you suggest getting the WAS Board over the Cricket-Vision board? The WAS Board will be a Vision board right?

Also, would I be better off buying a stock Impulse w/ Whatever Board, Vertical Reg, and Tapeworm, and then upgrade little by little OR would I be better off spending the extra money and buying one of the Custom Impulses such as the RAT? It seems to make more sense to me to get the RAT (or something similar) but I just want to make sure im thinking correctly.

[Dravion]

ok, now that we've been enlightened a bit more...

Yes, go for the WAS board when it comes out. I'm pretty sure it's a vision capable board, so even if you don't get vision right away, you can install it later. (if you buy from EPBO, you can install it for the difference of the price, not buying a brand new vision system.)

As far as custom guns go. If you read the FAQ, you will see that Wolvie covers custom guns. Custom guns really aren't all that custom. They have milling and annodizing. So if you want a basic stock imp, and are going to be happy with it, don't worry about the extra milling. However, if you want the stylization of a milled and annoed gun, then get it! You can't get milling like the rat/nasty/toxic/etc. after the fact. The predator impulse is special (see the getting freaky with impulse twins thread for more info).

This being said, I'm sure you notice that I don't own an impulse and probably think I'm full of bull droppings. But the fact remains, I've earned the respect of a lot of people here with my knowledge, and a lot of people dislike me because of it probably.

I'm in the same boat as you, want a Imp, however, I'm not gona be able to get one until I get a job. And I'm not getting a job till april after I move back to memphis. However, I do plan on getting a predator impulse after that.

As far as internals, add-ons, all that stuff. Don't worry about that stuff right now. You're impulse will perform GREAT out of the box stock. So I would go ahead, and just worry on basic, rat, nasty, toxic, etc. before I worry about internals.

The reg is a big deal as most people like the vertical over the horizontal, but that's all feel. To some the gun feels too tall with the horizontal. Others perfer the drop it gives. Again, it's all preference.

That being said, there is no holy way yo set up an impulse so it will fire miraculously(sp?) so don't worry about that. What you should do is read all the info you can get. (i'll put a couple websites at the bottom of this) And make a decision for yourself. I know that good and bad things have been said about 90% of the impulse add-ons and upgrades in this thread so all yee needs to do is look.

Now, I'm gona step off my soap box and let someone else ***** and moan at me for doing all this.

link:
The Skog (http://www.geocities.com/theskog)
Michigan Paintball Outlet (http://www.mipaintball.com/articles.htm)
the faq (http://www.kamworld.net/paintball/ImpulseFAQ.html) - (I know you've already read this, but go through and look at all his research on the bolts, rams, etc. Those help a lot.
Das's Bolt Test (http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=117019&highlight=bolts)

Sorry if I missed anyone's website, please PM me it and I'll add it to my resource list. Thanks!

[Harrison486]

After doing some research, lot of thinking, and reading many helpfull posts, I think I have decided that when the time comes (somewhere around May or June), I will be dishing out the extra money for the new Predator. I think that this Impulse is pretty sweet looking and comes decked out. Is this a good decision?

[FOM]

First of all, why spend you $$ on an N@ system whenyou are saving up for an Impulse? I realize you can use the N2 on the Impulse-- but it would seem that spending that $$ now just puts you that much futher away from getting the 'paulse.

As far as the preditor... well knowing werm this will be a great gun, but its a little hard to compare it on a value basis until we how it comes out. As I understand it, the Preditor will start at $800-- well you can do an aful lot of custom building on an Rat JR for the $300

Ofcourse the single biggest atriction to the preditor is that you can truly have a one of a kind gun. If you are willing to wait, they will be able to do the anoexactly the way you want it including exactly the goodies you want. however DOING SO WILL NO DOUBT COST YOU A LOT MORE THEN THE "BASE" PEICE.

Frankly, almost all of this means very little right now, because two to three months there will no doubt be a lot of other factors to consider.

[Harrison486]

Well, buying the N2 now makes sense. Because even if I dont buy N2 and save this $200, I will still have to wait until my B-Day for more money, and will still have to work to get the rest. So I figure I'll buy the N2 now, run it on my Shutter, and then start saving for the pulse. Really, this would just mean a week or two more of work and saving. Wouldnt the Impulse run better on N2 anyway? Now that we got that out of the way...From what we know, will the Predator be worth the $100-200 more than a Nasty or a Rat impulse would be? From what I have seen, it looks like the Predator comes decked out and will be annoed amazingly. What do you guys think and reccomend?

[heyheyhey]

in the summer, you get a HELL of alot more shots from co2

[SpUnKy-BoLtOn]

Heres what the comparison of custom imps boils down to... THE MILLING. Thats IT. Even though the predator imp is more decked out to begin with, its also 200 more than a rat or nasty. So I guess what Im saying is that u r paying for those upgrades in the base price for the predator imp.

Also, it is kinda pointless to buy n2 for an impulse. Its just a waste of money cuz nitro and co2 preform about the same on an impulse. Just get urself hooked up with a nice 20 oz. co2 with anti siphon and an on off valve.

Heres what I'd buy if I were u:

Nasty Impulse (horizontal reg)-$620
HALO loader-$100
Slick shot ram- $25
rat hole SS hammer-$20
Some sort of LPR kit- $90
NDZ Titanium pull pin- $15
HALO no-rise- $30
WAS board- 120
Total- $1,020

Now lets see how much it is for the predator
Predator impulse-$800
HALO loader-$100
LPR kit-$90
rat hole SS hammer-$20
NDZ titanium pullpin-$15
WAS board- $120
Total-1,145

So, unless u have ur heart set on a predator impulses milling, go with a nasty or a rat. Also, who knows what other kinda charges are gonna get tacked onto the predator impulse for annodizing, and other cuztom stuffs.

P.S. I didnt include a slick shot ram or a low rise fo rthe predator, cuz it already comes with those.

[Harrison486]

This is more like what I would be buying:

RAT Impulse
New Designz Delrin Bolt
New Designz Blade Trigger
Smart Parts Gel Grips
Freak Barrel w/ One Insert
Milled Rat Ear Feed Tube
SP Tapeworm
Brass Rat Hole Hammer
SP SS Ram Shaft
SP Delrin Valve
WAS Equalizer Board
RAT IMPULSE SETUP - $770

PREDATOR Impulse
3-Hole Bolt, Undertow Bolt, or Predator Bolt
Werm, Predator, or Stock Frame (All w/ Custom Triggers)
Smart Parts Gel Grips
Freak Barrel w/ One Insert
Tarantula High Rise
Predator Valve Cap
Low Pressure Regulator
Brass Hammer
New Designs Slik Shot Ram Shaft
RIP Valve
WAS Equalizer Board
New Designz 15* ASA
Custom Logo Plate
PREDATOR IMPULSE SETUP - $800 (May Be More Depending on Final Decisions)

Here are words straight from the maker of the Predator on pricing and what the Predator will include.
Originally posted by WERM
We should be ready to take order by this weekend, or early next week. Tarantula is finishing up the valve cap and Predator frame. Pricing should start at about $800. Buyers will have many choices, like: finish (satin or polished), color (solid or fade for now), Frame (stock, werm, or predator), Bolt (3 hole, undertow, or soon to come predator bolt), Tarantula low or high rise, freak barrel length & 1 sleave size, & LPR. Early predators may come with the stock cricket board, but will be upgraded when the WAS Equalizer boards are in. Anno color is completely up to the buyer. We will do our best to match ANY color you may want.

Ill post more info as I have it.

bill

[SpUnKy-BoLtOn]

I tihnk u mite have to pay extra for the WAS board big guy. I dont really thiink that u can get all that for jUST 800 bux. If thats the case, then I will be very, very surprised, but I highly doubt it. Thats just too good of a deal.

[BaLLeRx10]

Hey i got a GOLD impulse from epbo a few weeks ago and alls i can say is .. its soo freaking sweet. If u was you and i had about 800 dollars , id get a junior pack form EPBO its a colored vertical reg impy with blade trigger and lpr for $$$$ 535 then id get a pipe barrel wiht a colored tip to match your impy for about 175
then i would get a new frame like hte I frame or the new 90* fraME (WICH I THINK LOOKS PRETTY AWESOME) the id grab a halo B and run it on c02. i think that would be a really sweet setup