New HALO

[Sid]

Yes, Odyssey paintball is releasing a new loader called the TSA. It is their bid into the agitating loader market.

Check www.odysseypaintball.com for more details.

[Exit Woundz]

Pics .. Saw this a a coupleweeks ago. :|

http://www.odysseypaintball.com/images/halo-tsa2.jpg

[BourneKiller]

Yeah, it stands for HALO-Tilt Sound Activation. If your hopper is tilted to the left, the impellers will rotate so that it sweeps the paint up, and when you tilt it the other way, the impellers will reverse, so you get the most optimal feeding. Another quality HALO! :)

[i like tictacs]

Originally posted by BourneKiller
hooper


Is this thing a hoola-hoop or a hopper? Darn, I came in here thinking something about a free hoola hoop.

Looks cool..I'm partial to the looks of the Halo-B and revy though.

[BourneKiller]

Originally posted by i like tictacs



Is this thing a hoola-hoop or a hopper? Darn, I came in here thinking something about a free hoola hoop.

Looks cool..I'm partial to the looks of the Halo-B and revy though. \

:eyes: what's this hopper business you're talking about?

:eyes: The official name is hooper, man, didn't ya know? :laugh:

[i like tictacs]

Hooper...lol

Its like saying

Why is my gun chooping?

[TeamBlackHawk]

wow.. looks like a revy in year 2030 :paranoid:

[heyheyhey]

Originally posted by TeamBlackHawk
wow.. looks like a revy in year 2030 :paranoid:


not only do aliens exist, they play paintball :nod:

[pillbox]

i still like A-5 cyclone feed

[TeamBlackHawk]

ya the A-5 CFS is nice, just extremely huge, but likely for us leftys (me) it's behind the bunker when shooting mostly, but i play both sides a lot, but easyer to me to go left

[woolf]

look like the rico and feeds like the re:loader but better then both,lets hopr they dont get sued by empire.

[pbweasel]

thats wicked nice. few loaders actually feed when ur marker is tipped like that. i doubt it will be as fast as the halo B because it is paddle operated, but hopefully it has something close to its speed

[BourneKiller]

Originally posted by pbweasel
i doubt it will be as fast as the halo B because it is paddle operated, but hopefully it has something close to its speed

Nope. It won't even feed much past 13bps, due to gravity constraints. The HALO-B tops out at 22bps. :D

[2K3CockerMan]

you all must understand, unless you have a super-light (sub-1mm pull) trigger pull or full auto, then it won't be easy to hit even 10 bps

[BourneKiller]

Originally posted by 2K3CockerMan
you all must understand, unless you have a super-light (sub-1mm pull) trigger pull or full auto, then it won't be easy to hit even 10 bps

Well, on a cocker, for sure, as you have to pull very differently to avoid short-stroking, same w/ a mag.

But any electro... It's quite easy to get 13bps. ;)

[timotheus16]

wow im looking forward to that tv screen on the back. maybe the will come out with models that have a dvd players on it.:crazy: :eyepop:

[Shotcalla]

Originally posted by timotheus16
wow im looking forward to that tv screen on the back. maybe the will come out with models that have a dvd players on it.:crazy: :eyepop:

lol:laugh: ya i was wondering what that was too

[nycpb.com]

doesnt anyone wanna slighly compare this to the empire reloader? :crazy:

[BourneKiller]

Originally posted by nycpb.com
doesnt anyone wanna slighly compare this to the empire reloader? :crazy:

Yeah, it's considered to be the up-and-coming newest competition for the Empire Reloader. :)

[nycpb.com]

doh not as much as i thought would be said but...

hasnt anyone noticed that the new halo is taking on the look of more standard hoppers as well (ie. gravity feed, revvies, and empires)

if the halob can handle 22+ bps, i wonder how much the new halo will handle and how much it's goinna cost players for the new hopper :laugh:

[BourneKiller]

Originally posted by nycpb.com
doh not as much as i thought would be said but...

hasnt anyone noticed that the new halo is taking on the look of more standard hoppers as well (ie. gravity feed, revvies, and empires)

if the halob can handle 22+ bps, i wonder how much the new halo will handle and how much it's goinna cost players for the new hopper :laugh:

No, the HALO-TSA is not meant to be faster than the HALO-B, it's just more competition for the agitated loaders. My guess it will be feeding in the 13, maybe 14bps range. Probably more like 13bps.

[nycpb.com]

ah i see :rolleyes:

any idea on how much its goinna be costing players?

[timotheus16]

well it depends if they use the new break away plastic on the neck like assbeagle/viewloader uses on the new revy bodies. then you have to factor in that you get about one speed ball game out of it before it snaps off from hitting a bunker. so thats 10 minutes. they are 60 dollars a pop so we can use the ratio of 10/60 = number of games/number of hoppers. this formula should help you calculate the cost of using the new break away feed neck hoppers.:idea: :dizzy:

[BourneKiller]

Originally posted by timotheus16
well it depends if they use the new break away plastic on the neck like assbeagle/viewloader uses on the new revy bodies. then you have to factor in that you get about one speed ball game out of it before it snaps off from hitting a bunker. so thats 10 minutes. they are 60 dollars a pop so we can use the ratio of 10/60 = number of games/number of hoppers. this formula should help you calculate the cost of using the new break away feed neck hoppers.:idea: :dizzy:

I highly doubt that Odyssey would stop making loaders with their characteristic tough shell and start making them cheaply.... I highly doubt it. :rolleyes:

[nycpb.com]

of course they aren't going to lower their quality but...

will people actually pay a lot more for the new halo if it performs about the same as an empire reloader? :rolleyes:

[Sid]

What's the point of all this? I'm starting to get annoyed at all the ":rolleyes:". If you don't like the answer don't ask the question.

[BourneKiller]

Originally posted by nycpb.com
of course they aren't going to lower their quality but...

will people actually pay a lot more for the new halo if it performs about the same as an empire reloader? :rolleyes:

Once again, what makes you think that the HALO-TSA is going to be more expensive?

Let me re-iterate.

The HALO-TSA was made as a competition for agitated loaders. It's sound-activated, and the paddles will spin according to the tilt of the hopper. In addition, Odyssey has a reputation for excellent hoppers.

So far, it sounds like it's going to be BETTER than the Empire Reloader. And what makes you think that it's going to be more expensive? You can have your doubts, but don't share them as if they are facts. :)

[toolfan62]

i heard its going to be in the $80 range which is pretty high

[BourneKiller]

Originally posted by toolfan62
i heard its going to be in the $80 range which is pretty high

MSRP is usually always high. :|

Where did you hear that? :confused:

[toolfan62]

from pb review somewhere i think

[I-PyThOn-I]

they are going to be 200 dollars......



you heard that on pbreview.....is it beleiveable? probably not

[nycpb.com]

oddysey has been making the halo's which have been very well known and high priced as well...

because of their reputation, it would only be right if they made another hopper which is competitive but lower than the halo-b

naturally it's going to cost more :sleep:

[kody206]

im all for it... especially if they use theyre super tough plastic. i bet it cost's $55-$65. Also it looks to be a 9volt because im not seeing where the other 9volt is going to go with that big plasma screen at the rear.

reminds me of the Mach 404.:eyes:

[ChunkyMunky]

From Warpig.com
http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/loaders/tsa_peek/tsa_side.jpg
On the cusp of moving their production facility to triple the weekly manufacturing rate of the HALO-B loader, Odyssey Paintball is getting closer to the release of their TSA loader. Odyssey design engineer Chris Goddard decided to give the public a sneak peek at a production prototype.

While the TSA loader shown here is not exactly the same as what the final models will be, Goddard states that the design is near completion.

TSA stands for Tilt Sound Activation, two of the loader's main features.

The TSA has a more slender, elongated shape than it's bigger brother the HALO, and a generally more streamlined appearance. A single button and LED on the back are used to switch the TSA on and off, and indicate its power status.

Unlike the HALO, the TSA is not a force feed loader. It relies on gravity to load and features an internal agitator to stir up the paintballs preventing ball jams that would slow feeding.

In the rear battery compartment, a pair of 9 volt batteries supplies power.

http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/loaders/tsa_peek/tsa_back.jpg
An internal sound sensor detects the sound of the paintgun firing, or even a tap on the loader shell or closing of the lid. This activates the motor which spins the agitator blades. The TSA agitates with every shot fired, rather than waiting for a gap in the ball stack, much like the popular Intellifeed modification for other agitating loaders.

The feature that is truly innovative to the TSA is its electronic tilt sensor and control software. When the loader is tilted to the right the agitator will rotate counter clockwise, when it is tilted to the left, it will rotate clockwise. By switching up the agitation direction, the TSA is designed to always sweep paintballs from the lowest side of the loader where gravity is making them rest, toward the feed neck.

http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/loaders/tsa_peek/tsa_agitator.jpg
Additionally, the body of the loader surrounding the feed neck features compound interior curves so that gravity will roll balls toward the feed neck from many angles.

While Odyssey has not yet set a price for the TSA they expecting it will retail for significantly less than the HALO, and slightly more than the current agitating loaders on the market
From Warpig.com

[nycpb.com]

i bet it goes for $80ish

[taso_winforce]

Originally posted by I-PyThOn-I
they are going to be 200 dollars......



you heard that on pbreview.....is it beleiveable? probably not lol $200 I hope your joking. and actually $80 is what the people who are making it said it is going to be. suprbugman said that they go to pbnation every now and then and he heard it straight from them.

[Sc0tTy]

well, just standing up strait it should be the same as other loaders in the speed area, but we its tilted other loaders speed would decrease significantly but the tsa has the tilt thing so it will remain above average.

they should get a revvy and take all the stuff out of that box-thing and put a minidisc or mp3 player in it :nod:

[I-PyThOn-I]

Originally posted by taso_winforce
lol $200 I hope your joking. and actually $80 is what the people who are making it said it is going to be. suprbugman said that they go to pbnation every now and then and he heard it straight from them.

read it again, doesn't take a brain surgeon to understand it.

[taso_winforce]

Originally posted by I-PyThOn-I


read it again, doesn't take a brain surgeon to understand it. it does since the last sentance could have ment 2 things and i thought of the wrong thing.

[kody206]

my national catalog at the store says $49.95 for the backman (220 round) LED model.

theyre also making a 180 round "Frontman" loader. the prices on it and the LCD models were TBA

[toolfan62]

220!!!!! AND FOR THAT CHEAP man i got to get one of those

[JTramoDude]

well i didnt mean to revive suchan old thread.. but

im guessing this is a direct relation to the Halo Frontman advertised in PB2x... however it is not forcefed!

[Paint Bulley]

well i didnt mean to revive suchan old thread.. but

ditto

but really no point in starting a new thread


are these for sale yet? I have never seen one on the field, or in a store. yet my cousin just said he bought one, is he on extreme waiting list for when they get them in stores, or are they for sale as of now?

thanks,

[toolfan60]

the backman led is on sale now. the cheapest place is at www.firstcallpaintball.com

[msgfossil]

According to the Odyssey site, the bps is 14. I'm willing to bet it is capable of much higher rates of fire than that however. Anyway, does anyone know the differences between the LED and the LCD?

[toolfan60]

the led and lcd are probably like the rico ak and 2k

[msgfossil]

That's what I thought at first, but I think one is supposed to have something like adjustable sensity and other extra options.

[BourneKiller]

Originally posted by msgfossil
According to the Odyssey site, the bps is 14. I'm willing to bet it is capable of much higher rates of fire than that however. Anyway, does anyone know the differences between the LED and the LCD?

I'm not.

Gravity, limits feed rates to about 16bps... but with blowback and bolt cyclic rate.... it's not more than 13.3bps (give or take a tiny bit).

[C4pyro]

Actually, gravity limits the feed to about 13-14 bps and that is in a totally perfect environment. It has to do with the starting and stopping of the ball stack, and if the hopper is totally verticle. Blowback and other things like that only bring it down, but a gravity feed hopper will never reach 16 bps.

[BourneKiller]

Originally posted by C4pyro
Actually, gravity limits the feed to about 13-14 bps and that is in a totally perfect environment. It has to do with the starting and stopping of the ball stack, and if the hopper is totally verticle. Blowback and other things like that only bring it down, but a gravity feed hopper will never reach 16 bps.

:nod:

Gravity can feed (like a bunch of paintballs in a long tube) around 16bps. But that's not on a paintball gun, that's excluding blowback, etc....

:nod:

Sorry, I should've clarified that a bit.

[TM pro TC]

actuallt it cost about 65 to 80 dollars....and thats not msrp

[TM pro TC]

hey its 79 dollars
u can get it at paintallwizard

[JahDW]

Originally posted by pillbox
i still like A-5 cyclone feed

what bps do they load at?

[TeamBlackHawk]

15

[BourneKiller]

Originally posted by TeamBlackHawk
15

I believe it's as fast as you can pull the trigger, is it not?

[p8ntball1016]

Originally posted by BourneKiller


I believe it's as fast as you can pull the trigger, is it not?


yes it is. to a point.

[Spyder124]

It loads 14 to 16 bps,
costs 59.99 at firstcallpaintball.com,
and I HAVE ONE!!!!!!!!!!
Backman LED

it is quite noice also.
You can use 9volts or AAs

[pbweasel]

too bad they dont have it there...there is nothing on the site that says anything about it.

[BourneKiller]

Originally posted by Paint Bulley
have never seen one on the field,

Yesterday I saw a girl who had the Backman model on her timmy.

She said that it kept up w/ her at 13bps easily.