Sick of being PC

[apunkjunkie]

:pissed: Look I'm sick of everyone trying to be politically correct in paintball now. Sure a few idiots with paintball guns shoot up a church now and then, but that doesn't make the sport bad. Yeah they're thinking about banning the sport in New York or whatever, but some guy brought up the point of baseball bats. More people get injured from misuse from a baseball bat than from misuse from paintballs. Not our fault of course because noone on this websight has ever misused a paintball gun (or marker or whatever PC term you can use to describe a paintball gun...because it is a gun...more on that later)...note the sarcasm. I'll admit that I misused my friend's SL-68 II to shoot little vienna sausages (you know the cheap ones from the can...they fit perfectly into a paintball barrel) at one of my friends...but that was about it. I dislike the people telling us that we can't use "violent" or "military" terms in paintball. "There are no snipers in paintball" or "Don't use the term gun or sniper" are just getting old. There are players that snipe so one who snipes is a sniper. Also look a paintball gun is a gun. It shoots a projectile (paintball instead of bullet) at someone or something by the pull of a trigger (wow just like a real gun). Guns shoot, paintball markers shoot, guns have barrels and paintball markers ...hmmm see the rational? Also just think if we changed to a totally PC sport.

Snap-shooting = "snap marking"
Blind shooting = "blind marking"
snipers = some guys who are not limited to only guys but also women which is spelled womyn in cammo or not cammo because cammo is too militaristic so they have to wear a bright red jersey in the woods trying to sit still but they don't have to sit because they have the choice to stand lay down or even swing from the trees and hit, excuse me, mark players from a long way away with a gun that's not a gun but a marker used to expunge a paintball from a long metal tube by the pull of a little metal rod that isn't called a trigger because guns have tiggers.

Do you guys see my point?

Maybe we should all just eliminate the paintball guns and throw paintballs at each other...what fun. Look my point is not sarcasim...though it helps to be sometimes...it is that no matter what we call the equipment in our great sport, it will still be viewed to the rest of the population as violent. Worse case scenario is that we're viewed as militaristic reinactors but not quite as bad as the civil war (can I use the word war?) reinactors.

Just think the people who hate this sport are the ones laying in the middle of a New York City street protesting a war by showing what a hundred dead bodies would look like...though thinking that's what a hundred dead Iraqui military bodies would look like kinda made me smile...but that's another topic not to be discussed in a paintball forum.

[apunkjunkie]

I would like to clarify that I do not condone the misuse of a paintball gun either accidently or on purpose. I love this sport and would love to see it grow and prosper, though as it happens you will get vandals. Just think if there was no such thing as hockey (God forbid that happen for all you Canadians out there) or baseball...or they weren't in the mainstream just like paintball. Would there not be press stating that some old lady was bludgeoned to death by a hockey stick or baseball bat and they should ban all hockey sticks and baseball bats? There probably would. Vandalism is bad, and vandals should be shot for many hours by the Tippman Hellhound (or whatever their nifty gattling gun vehicle is called with it's 50bps).

[Blacksheep]

shot up my trashcans...

[tOmAsS]

I really think you should get your facts straight before saying the people who protest the war are the ones who want to get rid of paintball. I protest/do not support the war yet I am an avid paintball player. So if you have any proof that people who protest the war are against paintball show it to me because I haven't read anything about that connection. You could say because they are against war/violence that they would be against paintball but you can't assume things so please refrain from saying that people who do not want a war do not want paintball. By the way war is much more serious then paintball due to the thousands of lives lost and I doubt the majority of protesters are even worrying about paintball. And most people I know don't use the term marker or mark unless they are talking to someone who is opposed or not very sure paintball is a good thing because coming off and saying we go out and shoot eachother with guns. If they don't have previous knowledge or experience in the sport then they misinterpret what we are saying. But together with fellow paintball players you can say gun I even say gun and shoot to people who don't play paintball.

[Blaze77]

Once or twice, but I coulden't help it, those seagulls were ripping up my garbage and making a big mess in the driveway but I turned the velocity down alot. Next time they wont be so lucky

[BenDirt]

hmm.....i threatend my brother without his mask off....then proceded with the threat of shooting him in the leg....ive shot stuff in my backyard so that isnt much of a big deal.....i shot my neighborhs house on accadent so i cleaned it up before he saw it.
i shot at a few squirrels...

atleast its not a BB gun... those are smaller and do more damage. my friends used to put the noses of lizards in the barrel of a BB gun and shoot it. even tho i never saw it i thing it's pretty ****'ed up to do that. im not an animal lover like peta(coughWACKOScough) but thats still pretty sick.

[apunkjunkie]

Originally posted by tOmAsS
I really think you should get your facts straight before saying the people who protest the war are the ones who want to get rid of paintball. I protest/do not support the war yet I am an avid paintball player. So if you have any proof that people who protest the war are against paintball show it to me because I haven't read anything about that connection. You could say because they are against war/violence that they would be against paintball but you can't assume things so please refrain from saying that people who do not want a war do not want paintball. By the way war is much more serious then paintball due to the thousands of lives lost and I doubt the majority of protesters are even worrying about paintball. And most people I know don't use the term marker or mark unless they are talking to someone who is opposed or not very sure paintball is a good thing because coming off and saying we go out and shoot eachother with guns. If they don't have previous knowledge or experience in the sport then they misinterpret what we are saying. But together with fellow paintball players you can say gun I even say gun and shoot to people who don't play paintball.


Well I know probably not everyone who protests the war is against paintball, but those who are protesting the war are the far left. Those are the appeasers who think we are on the same level as an Iraqui soldier who puts people through paper giant paper shredders and dips people in acid (and no I'm not exagerating). Those are the extreme PC movements and the ones against anything somewhat violent...but like I said war is a topic not discussed on a paintball forum. No more war.

[bobalis]

The reason why ppl say there are no snipers in paintball is because you can't really snipe in paintball.

[suddenpaint]

i shot myself in the fot last weekend lol....that was funny

[i like tictacs]

WHO CARES. You don't even know why they are called markers to begin with, that much is clear. They're called markers because that is what they were, used to MARK trees and cattle, it's not some hippy term made up to appease the public. Gun=Marker. Same thing. Who cares.

[BlueDragonDH]

If they band something it should be a pistol. Look at pistols what do you need them for. You don't go hunting with one or play with them the only use ive seen for pistols have been for robberies and killing people since you can just hide them in your pocket and walk up to a store you can't do that with a rifle.:)

[BenDirt]

Originally posted by i like tictacs
WHO CARES. You don't even know why they are called markers to begin with, that much is clear. They're called markers because that is what they were, used to MARK trees and cattle, it's not some hippy term made up to appease the public. Gun=Marker. Same thing. Who cares.


*WERE* and *USED* key words there.

[tonysk83]

apunkjunkie, you are an idiot my friend. I don't even no where to start. So you are telling me I can go shoot at people on the street with camo on for no reason and that's not wrong? You are telling me you want them to ban paintball in major metropolitan areas? Personally, I want to play paintball the rest of my life, but if there were more people like you I doubt I would. YES, snipers, camo, military looking markers, and idiots that do drive bys give us a bad name. Tournament paintball DOES NOT.
People always say that tournement paintball and woods ball with camo give us equally bad names, but they are wrong. People see pictures in magazines of a scenario game. These kids are decked out in camo, have ak-47 paintball guns, do you think people will like to see this? No, they will get scared, and now their little Johnny ain't playing. Now, if they see a tournament paintball game with players with marching team jerseys, refs, a big trade show, and big, bright fields with spectators. Which one would they rather see? Tournement paintball. Ok, I'm done here.

[heyheyhey]

well, this one time i saw this guy, he hada mask, looked like he was gonna rob a bank, even hada gun. i shot him

my team was like good job afterwords tho

[themann2003]

Ahhh, another pbreview forum that goes from 'So what's your opinion?' to 'I'm smarter than you! Haha! Look at my big words and my ability to "flame" your opinions! Mwahahah!'

This website has gone waaayyy done since I joined it :(

[tonysk83]

Since you joined it? You have been here 4 months, some of us have been here 1 or 2 years, and personally thread liek this come up all the time and it's getting really really annoying

[BenDirt]

Originally posted by tonysk83
Since you joined it? You have been here 4 months, some of us have been here 1 or 2 years, and personally thread liek this come up all the time and it's getting really really annoying

WOA!!! apunkjunkie man....you shouldnt of posted this man....tony is annoyed!!!! you should be banned!!!!

[i like tictacs]

Originally posted by BenDirt



*WERE* and *USED* key words there.

Are you trying to say something? Because it didn't make nil sense.

[Taste_Me]

Personally I agree with you on the “too much PC” part but we do need some PC, unfortunately the cammo and the realistic guns are not good but we do need to draw the line some where. I say we stop it at the vandalism and the ghilie suits (besides that’s just cheating, its almost impossible to break a ball on one of those things). I don’t think that every time we see someone on TV with out a mask we should freak out though, for the most part I doubt that a vast majority of the public even notices.



Originally posted by apunkjunkie
Well I know probably not everyone who protests the war is against paintball, but those who are protesting the war are the far left. Those are the appeasers who think we are on the same level as an Iraqi soldier who puts people through paper giant paper shredders and dips people in acid (and no I'm not exaggerating). Those are the extreme PC movements and the ones against anything somewhat violent...but like I said war is a topic not discussed on a paintball forum. No more war.

You seriously need to open your eyes to the world around you, what little knowledge you have gained in your short 20 years on this planet dose not make you neither wise nor intelligent. If you would like me to elaborate on this you can PM me

[apunkjunkie]

Originally posted by tonysk83
apunkjunkie, you are an idiot my friend. I don't even no where to start. So you are telling me I can go shoot at people on the street with camo on for no reason and that's not wrong? You are telling me you want them to ban paintball in major metropolitan areas? Personally, I want to play paintball the rest of my life, but if there were more people like you I doubt I would. YES, snipers, camo, military looking markers, and idiots that do drive bys give us a bad name. Tournament paintball DOES NOT.
People always say that tournement paintball and woods ball with camo give us equally bad names, but they are wrong. People see pictures in magazines of a scenario game. These kids are decked out in camo, have ak-47 paintball guns, do you think people will like to see this? No, they will get scared, and now their little Johnny ain't playing. Now, if they see a tournament paintball game with players with marching team jerseys, refs, a big trade show, and big, bright fields with spectators. Which one would they rather see? Tournement paintball. Ok, I'm done here.


Hmm...guess you don't understand the subtle use of sarcasim within my post, though I'm sure many of your fellow pbreviewers did. Anyways I must disagree with the tournament play being good for the sport. Hmm, lets see where to begin...how about cursing loudly while arguing with a ref with small children around? Oh oh I know, throwing a $2000 paintball gun with the nitro/co2 still attached when they dislike a call by the refs is a great view for the sport...especially when one explodes and flies into the crowd killing small children. Rampent and blatent cheating? Shooting constantly to the back of the head while bunkering someone? All are bad for the sport. Scenario is mostly roleplay and they use those look-a-likes as props. Should we ban Civil War reinactors because they march up and down some old battle field with working replicas of the old military weapons? You shouldn't use the argument of scenario games being a bad image. Don't get me wrong, tournies are cool and all a lot of the time, but they're just as bad, if not worse, than all pro sports. Woodsball players needs tournies to survive because of the demand for a better/cheaper gun and paint. Also the tourny players need woodsball players to survive because we're the other 98% of the paintball population and if we weren't here you wouldn't be either.

Also who cares if I piss "Tony" off. 2 years or 2 months, we're all pbers here and shouldn't even be bashing one aspect of the sport. I like all aspects of paintball, I just like some more than others. Tournament ball isn't my cup of tea, but I'll still read up on it,watch it, as well as criticize it in hopes that things will change, but never bash it.

[apunkjunkie]

Originally posted by i like tictacs
WHO CARES. You don't even know why they are called markers to begin with, that much is clear. They're called markers because that is what they were, used to MARK trees and cattle, it's not some hippy term made up to appease the public. Gun=Marker. Same thing. Who cares.

Oh forgot to address this...I know where paintball began, so don't bother trying to embarass me with that little tid-bit of newbie knowledge.

As for the terminology, have you not seen people on message boards jump down someone's throat when they use the word "sniper" or "gun" because it is too violent?

[stiingya]

Originally posted by bobalis
The reason why ppl say there are no snipers in paintball is because you can't really snipe in paintball.


maybe not in speedball cause you can't really hide persay( your gonna be behind one of the bunkers on your side of the field?) though when there's alot of eliminations in a game there is some sniping, but um if you've never seen a sniper in a woods ball game, I find that increadably hard to believe...no maybe you can't set up with a thousand yard shot out of your 12-18 x 50 scope, but if your hiding and waiting for someone to be a target your acting as a sniper. whether it's from ten feet or a hundred it makes no diference...

and as far as the "marker" thing, yea they were called markers originally because they were marking tree's and cows, but when they started being used to shoot at people to play war/capture the flat/survival.... they became guns to the overwelming majority of players, "marker" was only brought back into use by PC types...

[Taste_Me]

I just say gun cause it's shorter and eaiser to say than marker, if people decided that it would be better to call them some thing like PETs (paintball elimination things) then I probably say that. but untill then it's gun.:P

[apunkjunkie]

PETs? Lol that would confuse the heck out of the general public...though I think it would be kinda funny if we called it pets :P.

"My PETs shoots 16bps..." lol

[tonysk83]

Originally posted by apunkjunkie



Hmm...guess you don't understand the subtle use of sarcasim within my post, though I'm sure many of your fellow pbreviewers did. Anyways I must disagree with the tournament play being good for the sport. Hmm, lets see where to begin...how about cursing loudly while arguing with a ref with small children around? Oh oh I know, throwing a $2000 paintball gun with the nitro/co2 still attached when they dislike a call by the refs is a great view for the sport...especially when one explodes and flies into the crowd killing small children. Rampent and blatent cheating? Shooting constantly to the back of the head while bunkering someone? All are bad for the sport. Scenario is mostly roleplay and they use those look-a-likes as props. Should we ban Civil War reinactors because they march up and down some old battle field with working replicas of the old military weapons? You shouldn't use the argument of scenario games being a bad image. Don't get me wrong, tournies are cool and all a lot of the time, but they're just as bad, if not worse, than all pro sports.


Yes, there is cursing, but what other sport doesn't have cursing? Of course people are going to argue, baseball, basketball, football, all have players swearing and arguing with refs. Throwing guns? Yea, every once in a while, and none of them have ever exploded killing small children so no need to worry;). Shooting constently in teh back of the head? Chris Loysa was the only person to ever do that, sure people shoot three shoots at people to make sure none bounce, I do to. Cheating happens in every sport, if someone is playing with unobvious hit its the refs job to see it, not the players so don't pee in your pants. Tourney ball is just like any other sport, senarcios aren't, that's what we need to change.

Originally posted by BenDirt


WOA!!! apunkjunkie man....you shouldnt of posted this man....tony is annoyed!!!! you should be banned!!!!

These threads come up every week, I have a reason to be annoyed.

[Taste_Me]

Originally posted by apunkjunkie
PETs? Lol that would confuse the heck out of the general public...though I think it would be kinda funny if we called it pets :P.

"My PETs shoots 16bps..." lol


he he he I can picture it now

"I got my PET annoed"
"how ya do that?"
"dip it in some type of acid"
":eek: "

I gutted my PET and replaced all the internals

im tired of people throwing their $1000 PETs on the ground

the possibilties are endless

[BenDirt]

Originally posted by tonysk83


These threads come up every week, I have a reason to be annoyed.


if this was YOUR messege board, you would have a reason to be annoyed. But its not. so dont be annoyed.

[TOWCHBob]

I agree. Who cares what people think? Nobody cares enough to get the sport banned. Look at airsoft, it's what everybody is so scared that paintball will turn into and it's still legal to play. The only problem is vandalism and calling paintball guns markers and banning Tippman's and cammo because "it makes paintball look too military" isn't going to stop anything. The only case of banning paintball I've heard of was the one in NYC and that one wasn't paintballs fault.
It doesn't matter what we do, if capguns are going to get banned then paintball guns are going to get banned.

[Taste_Me]

Did any one hear/read/see any thing about the 1st Super 7 event at Huntington CA? That's the kind of thing that we need to keep doing to promote paintball. For those who don't know the tourney was held right out on the beach where people could see every thing from the pier and the board walk. The #'s that I read said that about 30,000 people stopped to watch, Imagine how many people will not go out to play for their 1st time. Imagine how many people who played rec ball once or twice realized how big the sport has become and how vast it is. If they pull off something even close to that in Vegas then we are going to be going way up soon.