View Full Version : What Loader is Best For BKO
ImpYa
03-30-2003, 08:52 AM
Ive recently had sometime to do a loader test on my BKO this weekend and here is what i came up with.
The test consisted of 4 loaders...RicAK, 12Volt Revvy, eVoLution 2, and HALO B. All loaders were filled with 150 paintballs.
All loaders kept up fine when shooting around the 7-9 bps range. No dry fires and no double feeds.
I loaded the hoppers again, but this time I set my Chaos to 17bps and went to town.
The RickAK had 7 dry fires and 1 chop.
The 12Volt Revvy had 5 dry fires and 2 chops.
The eVoLution 2 had 1 dry fire and 1 double feed.
The HALO B had zero dry fires, 9 double feeds and multiple breaks due to the double feeds.
RETEST: HALO B /W Z Code = NO DOUBLE FEEDS
I would have to say that the eVoLution 2 is the best hopper feeding wise for the BKO. The RicAK and 12Volt Revvy in second and if I were you i wouldnt even consider the HALO.
If you have a RicAK or 12Volt Revvy i would just stick with it, but if your buying your first electronic loader i would say go with the eVoLution 2.
I hope this helps out some ppl new to the BKO and if you have any hopper information please contribute!
L8ter
ImpYa
Creeper
03-30-2003, 02:03 PM
I'll contribute info about my empire reloader. I can empty an entire feed stack of balls without the loader activating because the gun is too quiet. I would agree with Impya's advice about the loader of choice.
Casper1ns
03-31-2003, 06:42 AM
IMPYA, I reallly apreciate you taking out your time and testing the loaders, it helped me to finally decide on what to choose and im going with the Egg. Can you do me a big favor and post a pic of your gun with ur mightymax and all. Im really interested in the mods on your gun.
ImpYa
03-31-2003, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by Casper1ns
IMPYA, I reallly apreciate you taking out your time and testing the loaders, it helped me to finally decide on what to choose and im going with the Egg. Can you do me a big favor and post a pic of your gun with ur mightymax and all. Im really interested in the mods on your gun.
I get at least 2 PM's a week about pics of my gun. I think im just gunna go out and buy a digital camera so i can post some pics. Give me a week...i get paid this weekend.
ImpYa
Fade99
03-31-2003, 10:44 AM
I just sold my egg 2. I chopped and dry fired with it too much.
I used a friends halo b for a day and I ended up being able to rip off ropes of paint with no dbl feeds or chops.
ImpYa
03-31-2003, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by Fade99
I just sold my egg 2. I chopped and dry fired with it too much.
I used a friends halo b for a day and I ended up being able to rip off ropes of paint with no dbl feeds or chops.
Really? Hmm i tried the HALO on 2 BKOs and the results were horrible. Anyone else have good results with the HALO?
ImpYa
Wolf PACK
03-31-2003, 11:51 AM
Was it a Halo or a Halo B? I notice a big difference between the two.
Maby that is it.;)
Fade99
03-31-2003, 03:38 PM
It was a Halo-B
Forsaken_Snake
03-31-2003, 04:37 PM
All you have to do to get rid of your problems with the halo is get new ball detents and it will be smooth sailing from there and you will never use any other Hopper :D
ImpYa
03-31-2003, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by Forsaken_Snake
All you have to do to get rid of your problems with the halo is get new ball detents and it will be smooth sailing from there and you will never use any other Hopper :D
You cant get new ball detents for the BKO unless you have one on the first models. I wonder if goldie could add a second one if i sent my gun into him?
ImpYa
graham
04-02-2003, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by ImpYa
Really? Hmm i tried the HALO on 2 BKOs and the results were horrible. Anyone else have good results with the HALO?
ImpYa
my Halo-a dosn't double feed but i do have blank and chops (i think it is the BKO).
Mr. Kitty
04-02-2003, 06:30 PM
I shot an Eggy 2 on my BKO on Sat and I had no chops, dry fires, or double feeds the whole day! I think many people agree the Eggy 2 is the best hopper period not just on the BKO.
- Mr. Kitty :freak:
Model98
04-02-2003, 07:14 PM
Hmm...this doesn't make it any easier...I am trying to decide between these 2 loaders (Halo B and Egg2), it seems like some people have had success with the Egg2 and others the Halo B...altho it seems like more people have had success with the Egg2.
OH the confusion of it all:crazy:
Team Death Capt
04-21-2003, 02:18 PM
then look @ price
gaps720
08-06-2003, 08:17 AM
what about the empire reloader? i know creeper said it doesn't work but has anybody else had experiences with the reloader? just wandering because i was considering it as alot of people say it works way better than a revvy. thanks -dustin
Cracka_G
08-06-2003, 09:33 AM
Hey what about that other halo...the TSA loader....is that just pretty much a halo but a copy pretty much of the ricochet?
ImpYa
08-06-2003, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by Cracka_G
Hey what about that other halo...the TSA loader....is that just pretty much a halo but a copy pretty much of the ricochet?
I would get a RELOADER. They seem to feed a little bit more faster than a Ric and are cheaper than a TSA.
ImpYa
UberNo0ber
08-07-2003, 09:18 AM
no the TSA is not like the halo. It's gravity fed just like 12v or ricochet. Hey impya r u talking about the revolutions? They do feeed alittle faster but ever since brass eagle took over, all i've seen were broken feed necks. I have an AK ricochet and it works out fine for me. If u have the money get the halo B.
ImpYa
08-07-2003, 09:39 AM
Im referring to the Empire Reloader. It looks like a revvy, but reacts a little faster and is way stronger.
ImpYa
bsucaptainbilly
08-07-2003, 03:20 PM
i use an Empire Reloader and i love it. i do believe that it is a bit stronger than a ricco, but hey, i've never used a ricco, however i reall like my reloader and i reccomend it. it is usually cheaper than a revvy also. it reacts as soon as you fire. it is sound activated like the halo tsa, but it it doesn't change the way it spins by the way it is tilted like the tsa.
Mr. Kitty
08-09-2003, 08:29 PM
Has anyone gone over to Warpig and checked out the Qloader? I think it looke pretty sweet especially how they're working on a mount to go right above your tank. The price is sorta scary though ($200)
ImpYa
08-10-2003, 11:41 AM
Hey, guys...i tried out a HALO B /w TE Software and it performed flawlessly on my friends BKO, when normally it would double feed.
ImpYa
Brock
08-10-2003, 04:51 PM
I know im kinda outa place here, but the only problem i have seen with halo's is double feeding problems. I dont know what type of ball stops the BKO has, but my JT only had a rubber one, and at first i double, tripple, and sometimes even quadruple fed. All that i had to do is put a small piece of paper between the rubber detent and the plate that holds it in. That pushed the ball stop in further so it would stop the balls from moving so much. Now, i havent broken or chopped a ball for like 2 and a half cases. Another advantage to the HALO B is that it ALWAYS has tension on the ball stack. This way, there is no delay at all. The eggII isnt the same way. It's eye has to see a gap, then it starts feeding.
OneArmedScissor
08-12-2003, 08:05 AM
No one seems to mention the type of paintballs they're using, or the quality of paint.
WARLORD11
08-12-2003, 10:20 AM
get the egg :blah:
ImpYa
08-12-2003, 04:25 PM
I use fresh dusk, blaze, and kick'in
ImpYa
TheBackMan
11-01-2003, 08:28 PM
Sorry to bring back a dead topic, but I thought I would get less flaming this way. The Warp feed puts less force on the piantballs than the Halo right? Then would the results be like the Eggy, or the Halo? Also, what does the TE do to make it not double feed? Does the Warp have something of this sort? Thanks!
masterofpuppets
11-01-2003, 08:32 PM
this should be stickied.
TheBackMan
11-02-2003, 12:18 AM
totally agree
TheBackMan
11-02-2003, 01:34 AM
I recently asked a very wise man, and he told me that the Warp had a vibration sensor, and that is what makes the wheel spin. I was also told by someone with a BKO (I have one, but no nitro yet so I haven't fired her yet, ran a few cases of imaginary paint through her though lol) that the BKO has more kick than most high end guns like cockers and angels. If the Warp isn't sensetive enough to detect those markers than what is the use for it? I was also told that it would work if I put an intellifeed on it, but I'm not sure how to do that. any help is appreciated.
AgentOrange
11-02-2003, 08:42 AM
So a Halo B w\Te software has no problems on the BKO?
And for the warp you can intelfeed it, I would head over to airgun.com and they have insructions how to intel feed a gun over there.
sn toter
11-18-2003, 11:51 AM
I just got my BKO yesterday, slapped on my freak and drop and railed on it with a Halo B (z coded) I had no double feeds and one break, it was the last ball so it wasn't being pressured into the breach. I was pretty curious about this so I did a blowback test...yeah thats the brob with mine. Went ahead and ordered a vapor bolt tot ake care of that. All in all, except the last round, The halo was spectacular :)
Docster
11-18-2003, 12:38 PM
Ah, Impya's definitive loader review :)
I have been using a Halo B with TE software on my BKO for about 4 months now. Prior to that I was using an Eclipse high-rise with an egg. The egg is a great loader for the BKO, but I felt I could reload faster with the Halo. (Still haven't gotten completely used to that Egg's clamshell door). Initially I would have a few ball skips with the high rise, so I swapped that for a A+ no rise. Haven't had any problems since.
So for the last 4 months:
Halo B with TE software
A plus no rise
03 BKO (running stock board)
stock bolt
o-ring ball detent without the macroline mod
I like to run my LPR lower rather than higher to reduce kick & chopping.
(Up till it cycles, then up a little more & set HPR for velocity)
No chops, no double feeds. Never ran out the Halo (I'm a tactical reloader). Have lent this gun out to many newbs for the day, without problem.
Recently got a Chaos board & SP ram, but haven't had playing time with these mods yet.
ImpYa
11-18-2003, 04:31 PM
Wow...its been awhile since i wrote this review.
Im glad to see its still around!
ImpYa
masterofpuppets
11-19-2003, 04:50 PM
im surprised it isnt stickied yet:|
Orangecola87
11-19-2003, 06:53 PM
Gotta go with the egg
Zewanah
12-03-2003, 08:31 PM
I use a ricochet 2k on my bko. The Richochet is awsome, no dry fire's at all. The thing really does deflect balls, because I havent been hit on it yet, and when I had a revy it did. Its so cool, and the lid on it makes it hold paint well. You could throw the hopper and it probobly wouldnt spill paint if the lid is closed. One great feature is the reload alarm, In the middle of play I sometimes dont think about paint consumption, So the "BEEP BEEP BEEP" tells me to pull out a pod, and a 140 fills it to the top. Its such an awsome loader...Oh and one great thing, It uses ONE 9v, and it lasts three cases, try that with a revy or reloader.
Flaco305
12-04-2003, 03:47 AM
The Halo B with software would be the way to go...but it will dent your wallet a bit more than an EGG 2. I think for the price the EGG 2 would be the way to go. Unless you wanna wait and get the best. I myself got an Egg2. Its on the way. I will post how well i did with it. I have played with an Egg 2 on two guns besides the BKO ...a mag and angel...and i liked it ..one thing is the door...seems hard to open when you are under the hype of a game. No spring no nothing. It wasn't mine so i haven't had time to look at i with time.
xbulletproof89x
02-12-2004, 11:50 AM
i would get the HALO-B with rip drive
yoda101
02-12-2004, 12:00 PM
holy schmucks way to bring back an old thread
Angelous
02-12-2004, 12:06 PM
How does the HALO act with the ball detent mod, you know the one where u use the macroline i heard this fixes the problem with the HALO.
xbulletproof89x
02-12-2004, 12:08 PM
yes it does fix the problem
gomster
02-12-2004, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by Angelous
How does the HALO act with the ball detent mod, you know the one where u use the macroline i heard this fixes the problem with the HALO. Yes but, only use it on one detent or you will have chopping problems.
Flaco you know better then to bring back dead threads like that :finger:... :P
Flaco305
02-12-2004, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by gomster
Flaco you know better then to bring back dead threads like that :finger:... :P
what are you talking about, last time replied in this thread was in december...:rolleyes: :P
gomster
02-12-2004, 05:24 PM
Did you like not look at the date or something?
Flaco305
02-12-2004, 05:44 PM
First, i was not the one that intially brought the thread up.
Second, whats the big deal?
gomster
02-12-2004, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by Flaco305
First, i was not the one that intially brought the thread up.
Second, whats the big deal? Oh, my bad, sorry man.
The big deal is Caleb will come in here and be like :finger:.
Flaco305
02-12-2004, 06:14 PM
no biggie..i still wuv ju!
JoeSmoe10
02-13-2004, 01:49 PM
Try a no rise for the halo, high rises are supposed to be really bad with double feeding.
n00biee
02-13-2004, 01:57 PM
So techinically what's better?
HALO B w/ zcode
or
HALO B w/ TE
paintballhead5
02-13-2004, 02:10 PM
z code is way better
ImpYa
02-13-2004, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by n00biee
So techinically what's better?
HALO B w/ zcode
or
HALO B w/ TE
ZCode is better.
I did this review a long time ago.
gomster
02-13-2004, 02:14 PM
Whats the difference between the TE and Z Code?
ImpYa
02-13-2004, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by gomster
Whats the difference between the TE and Z Code?
Z has more push than TE. The reason Z Code can get away with upping the speed and not having to worry about loader chops is because it is anti-jam software.
If the loader senses a jam the Z Code backs up the motor to unjam the loader.
cockermongol
02-13-2004, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by ImpYa
If the loader senses a jam the Z Code backs up the motor to unjam the loader.
cool
gomster
02-13-2004, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by ImpYa
Z has more push than TE. The reason Z Code can get away with upping the speed and not having to worry about loader chops is because it is anti-jam software.
If the loader senses a jam the Z Code backs up the motor to unjam the loader. Thanks for the info ImpYa :).
ImpYa
02-13-2004, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by gomster
Thanks for the info ImpYa :).
Thats what Im here for! :tup:
n00biee
02-13-2004, 02:55 PM
It was kinda hard to understand cause I saw TE there.
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