if u have 2 barrels, long and short,read this....

[mikek2111987]

i was just wondering if anyone with a log and a short barrle for the sam,e gun could do this experiment for me....i was wondering if u could set your fps to were it should be,put the short barrel on,shooot a few times and mark its accuracy and distance,then put the big barrel on with the SAME fps as before(DO NOT CHANGE THE FPS AT ALL,JUST CHANGE BARRELS)and do the same and tell me the results.

thanks

[krasher]

That won't work if the barrels are of a different kind.

[elTwitcho]

When I get my second freak front in about a month and a half I could do it, but until then...

[CDietz]

my custom made 9 inch teardrop shoots as far as my 12 inch stainless all american

[in trauma]

i have a 16" and a 8.5"

8.5 results
sucky distance
sucky accuracy

16"
good distance
good accuracy

[toadman7b22]

you get the same distance with barrels what is in a 16" barrel that could make it more accurate?

[in trauma]

trust me ou dont get the same distance!!!

nothing is in the barrel

[Letchworth40]

barrels all shoot the same distance. its just that some barrels are more gas efficient than other barrels. a barrel with alot of porting is gonna need more air than a barrel without porting.

[in trauma]

trust e i know they have the different distances!!

[Nemessis]

Originally posted by in trauma
Im an idiot

Dont be too hard on yourself...

[magsweeeet]

You are going to need a larger amount of air to shoot the same distance with the same barrel. You will almost definetely achieve better accuracy with a longer barrel.

[in trauma]

dud change your avatar i have been here longer than you it is my trademark everyone knows me for it


please find something else

[in trauma]

Originally posted by Nemessis
Originally posted by in trauma
Im an idiot

Dont be too hard on yourself...


hey i am no t an idiot

barrels dont have the same distance my flat line doesnt have the same distance as my otehr barrels
also my 16 and 8.5 have different range they are not equal!!

[Kamakaze_Newbie12]

Sometimes having a longer barrel lowers your fps because of the greater amount of air required to push the paintball the extra coulple of inches, so you might have to change the velocity between the barrels to make a fair test. So each will be at the same fps.

[Letchworth40]

at the same fps it will be the same range unless it has something that creates backspin. a shorter barrel needs less air and a longer barrel needs more air to shoot. Longer barrels have nothing to do with accuracy. It might make it "look" more accurate because its easier to sight in on stuff with a longer one. but if you compare a 10inch boomy to a 16inch sniper barrel the boomer would be more accurate. At the same fps it will have the same range too. the extra 6 inches does nothing but make it quieter.

[elTwitcho]

The reason your 16 inch barrel shoots farther is because it has a better paint match than your 8 inch barrel. They are different bore sizes, how the hell can you possibly compare the 2!!!!!!!!!!!

[in trauma]

no i matched the paint to my 8.5 barrel!

[Archer99]

A 10" and 16" barrel will get different results on a spyder than they will on a shocker when running the same fps. The reason is operating pressure. Lets say a high pressure spyder has the ball moving at 280 fps within the first 5 inches the 10" barrel only has 5 inches left for the ball to decelerate. Put the 16" on the spyder and it will shoot slower because there are 11" of barrel drag affecting the ball. Now do the same thing wth a shocker running 180psi. Lets say the shocker needs 11" to get the ball up to 280fps. The 10" barrel run out of room for the ball to make it to 280 and you have to turn up your velocity to get 280fps. The 16" barrel has plenty of runway to get the ball moving to 280fps, so you can turn the pressure back down. Those are just examples and are not real-life measurements. It all comes down to how much runway you need to get your plane at flying speed. A low pressure gun is like a slow steady cessna. It takes more runway to get in the air (280fps). A high pressure gun is like an f16-it can take off from a carrier deck. Then you have to factor in paint match and I just don't have the strength...

[mikek2111987]

your 8.5 is probally your stock barrel,which is most likeley un polished. so there could be a huge difference.

[in trauma]

it is polished!

[PBSouLjAh]

wat kind of barrels are they

[Saiyan_warrior]

Longer Barrels must be better right?

Ever since I created this barrel site I have been getting questions about barrel length so I thought I would address it here for all to read. I suspect the questions I get about paintball barrel length are due to the common assumptions that paintball guns behave generally like "real" guns, and that assumption is understandable, but inaccurate. A paintball does not behave like a lead bullet and CO2 does not behave like gunpowder.

When CO2 or HPA gas is released into the chamber of a paintball gun it accelerates the ball for 6-8" down the barrel. The rest of the length of any barrel only serves to guide the ball and reduce the "pop" noise when the gas hits the end of the barrel. Adequate length stabilizes the ball but excess length causes unnecessary friction which reduces both accuracy and speed, and it can cause the ball to spin.

This friction after the initial acceleration is why I created the paint & barrel guide, a good fit should help improve accuracy while a poor fit will guarantee problems, balls flying left, right, up and down, cats and dogs sleeping together real wrath of god stuff.

Allow me to get to the point. Longer barrels do NOT = better accuracy. A good quality, well machined barrel will generally improve accuracy no matter the length. Matching the proper barrel bore to your "paint of the day" is MORE important than the length of your barrel. That's why serious players carry different size barrels. "The Best" barrel bore and length depend on a combination of factors ( paint, gun, weather, style of game). Brand XYZ barrel is not the "Holy Grail" of accuracy for all conditions.

APG had the following comments on barrel length in a rescent barrel article: "For maximum range you must match the barrel length to the gun you use...the barrel should not be so long that the ball begins slowing down before it leaves the barrel....After a paintball exits the bore the propulsion effect of the CO2 ceases, the ball stops accelerating. There is nothing you can do to make the ball in flight go faster. What is controllable though, and therefore critical, is the acceleration of the ball while it is still inside the bore. If the ball is still accelerating as it leaves the barrel you get slightly more range. If the ball is slowing BEFORE it leaves the barrel you get slightly less range." -Russel Maynard,"Y2K Barrel theory", APG, March 2000 pg 153

Let me simplify this for the newbies or youg'ins among us. A 16" barrel will not get you to Sniper heaven, an 18" barrel is just plain asinine and a 22" barrel would need a bi-pod for stabilizing but why bother since the paint balls wont make it out the barrel anyway, but hey it would look cool, right? ;-)

In fact many expereinced members of the paintball comunity reccomend no longer than 12" barrels, including Colin from Lapco and the infamous Glenn Palmer of Palmers Pursuit Shop. In my personal experience I feel that barrels of 12" to 14" are great for most guns. I do not reccomed barrels over 14" for guns that have a high spike pressure such as Spyders, Tippmanns, F4's, Thundercats, etc. The 16" or longer barrels are also awkward on the field and reduce your ability to move quickly though the cover and hence your effectiveness on the field.


One last note about bore size and length. Low pressure guns (I do mean "TRUE" low pressure guns as in Cockers, Angels, Bushmasters) seem to tolerate tighter bore barrels (I think they are softer on paint) while Blowforwards such as Automags, Desert Fox's seem to prefer a slightly oversize bore to minimize paint breakage. Evidence of this is that Stock Automag barrels are very large.

Thought i would put this since everybodys arguing if a longer barrel increases accuracy or distance. Its all in the PAINT/BARREL MATCH.


In the case of paintball barrels longer is definitly not better......

[krasher]

Trauma...polishing a 8.5 inch STOCK TIPPMANN BARREL is not the same as having a honed aftermarket barrel. I have a 10" boomer and a 14" J&J, no range difference.

[filasophikal]

sounds like a stock barrel compared to a aftermarket barrel... best length is either a 12" or 14" - why? its not too short, and not too long. I have a 14" 2k1 infinity barrel that came with my angel, a 12" dye boomstick, and a 10" freak system for my angel.

[FredRandle]

thanks Saiyan_warrior, even though I kind of understood a lot of what you said before, you helped to clarify some things, and help me decide on what barrel length I want for my j & j ceramic. I think I've decided on 12" sound good?

[Thead]

i like 12 inch

anything else seems too freakin huge, im thinkin bout tryin 10 in.

[beepbeep]

Get the 12. I have a 14 ceramic and it works great but I can't tell you how many times I've smacked the ground or trees with it.

[mikek2111987]

i have a 14" DYE xcel and i have had no problems,except a bad paint match, if u know of a paint-barrel match chart then please let me know of them.

[simon woodstock]

if the longer the barrel the better was true all the tourney players would have 3 foot barrels. 12 or 14 is the best, your barrel should just be long enough for the ball the get an established path of flight, the barrel is the place of most influence, the longer the barrel the greater the chance the ball has to go squirly. and how would a longer barrel make a ball go farther? if anything more friction on the ball and go not as far.