Psycho artcle in APG!

[The Billionare]

I am down right sick and tired of all these wierdos that think paintball was invented to pretend to kill people. Well I guess it sort of was, but it has evolved and has to continue to evolve. It angers me when I read an article, I wont mention the name of the article, "crackling twigs" where some psycho is spitting in the face of gun control activists while toating a paintgun, wearing camo "BDU's" and talking about playing army and killing people. He states that he likes to sit in the back of the field and "sniper". He imagines that each tag is another "kill" added to his record. This @sshole is digging our grave for us and those morons at APG are helping him. I hate it when morons like him and I hate to say this, but it is usually the guys who where camo and buy tippman flatlines and think paintball is there for them to pretend to kill one another. I'm going to say something now that will piss a lot of people off.

CAMO HAS NO PLACE IN PAINTBALL!!!!!

Everytime you leave your house wearing camo and talking about going to play paintball and how many people you can "snipe" today, you are shooting yourself in the foot and making it that much easier for "they" to build a case against our "SPORT". If you like camo and killing people go join the army!!! That's what they do there. They wear camo and kill people. I hate to say those things, but when people let them rip us apart, these are the words, phrases and actions that are helping them. Paintball has got to prove it'self to be an organized sport before the public and concerned citizens as well as gun control activists will leave us alone. A paintball gun is not dangerous if the person using it understands it's purpous. It was designed to tag people on a paintball field involved in the paintball game. Not trees in your neighbors yard, your neighbors dog or cat or the cars you pass on the blvd while cruzing with your friends. They are not attacking the sport, they are attacking the psychos that play it.

[The Billionare]

Now if you wish to continue wearing camo and playing paintball, please for the love of the game write APG and tell them you are not a psycho militant trigger happy blood thirsty bandito with a death wish. If you are, please don't ever play paint again. I shouldn't say camo has no place, but it is causing a lot of concern to the public eyes that watch us closely. They wonder why we do the things we do. They are too lazy to go watch a paintball game, so they assume the things they hear are true.

[Kamakaze_Newbie12]

I read every issue of apg and i havent seen that article, maybe it was in the opinion section, plus paintball was started playing in the woods in camo, so if i want to go and play in the woods in camo theres nothing wrong with that, only if i go arround in my camo bragging about how i am going to shoot people with my "gun" would it be a problem

[SandStorm]

So, everyone in the Army wears camo and kills people? I think not. I just had to clear that up, because I'm in Army ROTC and planning on joining the Navy or Air Force.

-I think paintball as a sport should stray away from the war game image, but rec ball should not, that is a part of rec ball. I like paintball as a sport better, but it is always fun to go out and play "war" too. Remember, there are two types of paintball.

[Jordan]

i wear camos only during the winter and its winter camo

white/grey/blue i dont usually wear green

[scott44]

yes there are two types of paintball, speedball and woodsball, and as hard as you try you will never be able to get rid of woodsball, it is how the game started and you can never get rid of it. I myself am a speedball only paintball player, and i don't really like playing in the woods. There are always going to be camo wearing paintball players, that play in the woods. Instead of spending our time trying to get rid of them we should spend our time convincing the public that paintball is a sport, and that we don't kill people or practice war, we just play tag with paintball guns. just my two cents

[w00twoot]

I only play speed ball so camo is useless...most pball players that play tourny dont wear camo...i kind of miss wood ball

[The Billionare]

Look on the cover of august 2001. It says Crackling twigs: Don't give up on those woods games! and the author is doing exactly what you said would be a problem. He is going around in camo talking about how he likes pretending to kill people. I'm glad you see this as a problem. I wrote a letter to apg stating that I find this article offensive because I am not like that guy and there are many pballers who are not like that guy and we don't want that guy giving us a bad reputation. This is my point. There are enough platers like him giving us bad reputations, we need to defend ourselves from players like this. Like I said above, camo is okay I guess, I should not have said it has no place. It's people who think it is good traing for the military and play it because they are going to join the navy or the airforce or the marines and think they can get in some good practice shooting people. The public all view us as crazy folk preparing for war, I hate to see apg egging them on by running this article. I started playing paintball a year ago. I have 12 issues of apg. I buy it every month and love the mag. I read them like bibles along with apg's ultimate guide to paintball. The PBible!

[cranberynvodka]

people that think they can snipe should be kicked out of this wounderful sport and you are right most of them are tippman owners they look at there gun like its a tummy gun i was like man that gun fugly and my frends like not really it looks like a tummy gun

[DasBaldDog]

So what? We're people who liked to play cops and robbers as a kid and just got tired of "I shot you"/"No you DIDN'T" arguments.

[Archer99]

The "No Camo" argument works fine on the speedball field, but you have to realize that most paintball is not played on an insured, regulated field-it is played in the woods. We just got a real field about 2 months ago. Before that it was either play in the woods, or stay home. There aren't many folks who are gonna try running through a briar patch wearing a JT sockhat...its just not gonna happen. Neither will you see someone crouching in a laurel thicket wearing a neon yellow raven jersey. Those pictures are equally ridiculious as a player camo'ed from head to toe on the speedball field. A different kind of game requires different types of gear and tactics. Some people love playing woods and scenario games. If you don't- thats fine, but don't expect woods play to stop. I would say 80% of the players out there got their start in the woods and most are still there...

[SandStorm]

I started with arena, moved on to speedball, and I got into scenario games just a couple years ago. Speedball is my favorite.

[cranberynvodka]

most scenario players are hicks

[Archer99]

Originally posted by cranberynvodka
most scenario players are hicks

I've never played a scenario game, and I don't know anyone who does play scenario, but that is an ignorant statement cranbery.

Every member of the armed forces, and most law enforcement personnel, are constantly training using "scenario games". You wanna tell them they are all a bunch of "hicks"?

What exactly is a "hick" anyway? I would be curious to know your definition.

[cranberynvodka]

well if you look in apg magazine they take pictures of people that play scenario and they all look like they own cows and play paintball in the woods everyday if you dont believe me pick up an issue of apg they always have those anoying articals about scenario games

[Archer99]

Well someone has to own cows. Don't you like hamburgers? ;)

[DasBaldDog]

Well, I LOVE scenario games, I live in the middle of upper-middle class suburbia. My father is an electrical engineer. My brother is in Med School, my sister is a Vet with a PhD and I am working on my undergraduate degree in History. Where in that says I'm a hick?

[DasBaldDog]

I ask that you not make generalized and over-bearing remarks regarding the nature of anything based on a few pictures out of 1 magazine. If you wanted to make a statement like that, I'd expect some of your own research done in the field, pictures from many magazines, polls, questionaires. I could say "People who have the nickname cranberynvodka are insulent little snots who can't spell" and be somewhat correct, although it might not be, just like your statement is not true. I apologize if you considered that flaming.

[cranberynvodka]

fine most scenario players are hicks and they live in the middle of nowhere

[Archer99]

You should be thankful for those "hicks in the middle of nowhere". They are the folks that dig the coal that power the generators that keep that computer you are typing on running. They are the folks that grow the food, and raise the cattle (yes COWS)that you shove down your unthankful mouth every day. They are the folks that raise the cotton used to make your purty little "red JT 2000 premier gloves" you have on your dainty little hands.

Be thankful for hicks Cran, people like you could not survive without them.

[cranberynvodka]

fine most scenario players are those kinda people who believe that everytime they tag some1 out its a kill and they play with TIPPMANS and viper m1s guns that look real!!!!!!!! and there scope users and think that long barrels help them SNIPE

[Lemonjello]

um, most people justy do that for intimidation for the game, it is a SCENARIO gam after all

[Red_October]

Cran. I dont totally agree with your statement about all scenario players being hicks. I was at the Michigan Monster Game and there were a lot of really good tourny players there. Yeah there was a lot of tippmanns BUT THEY WERE RENTALS. Most of the so called "hick" people that go to scenario games are first time players and 90% of the time the rental markers are Tippmanns. And of course they wear camo, ITS A SCENARIO GAME, its not a tournament, they arent playing speedball. Why would you wear a bright *** jersey in a woods scenario game? Thats as insane as wearing cammo to a speedball game. Wooded scenario games are awesome. I had more fun in some of the fire fights in that game then I ever have playing speedball. Working in a platoon, setting ambushes, leading a charge into a village to raise your teams flag, THAT STUFF IS FUN. So what if it is playing army for a day? Didnt you do that when you were a kid? Didnt we all do that? What Im trying to get at, is that we need to promote ALL different faces of our sport. Everyone likes to play their own style of paintball, wether its woodland or speedball. The cool thing about paintball is that there ARE so many ways to play it so it never gets old. Lets respect these types of paintball and not bash one or the other.

[Red_October]

Oh and one more thing, Cran. Im not totally ripping on you,:) I can relate to most of the stuff you were saying because where I am from there ARE a TON of hicks that play and are just like you described, but hey let them play any way they want. I hate the flatline though. I dont like the way it makes tippmanns look and I hate how a lot of new people think its a miracle barrel that has all this "range". And I cant say I like sniping either. But those are just my opinions and Im not saying that they are bad, they are just things that I dont like.

[SandStorm]

Well, that is true...I knew that when at a scenario game a few weeks ago...well, they asked me if I was a city boy. I feel most comfortable around people from the country though.

[unknown]

Originally posted by Red_October
Cran. I dont totally agree with your statement about all scenario players being hicks. I was at the Michigan Monster Game and there were a lot of really good tourny players there. Yeah there was a lot of tippmanns BUT THEY WERE RENTALS. Most of the so called "hick" people that go to scenario games are first time players and 90% of the time the rental markers are Tippmanns. And of course they wear camo, ITS A SCENARIO GAME, its not a tournament, they arent playing speedball. Why would you wear a bright *** jersey in a woods scenario game? Thats as insane as wearing cammo to a speedball game. Wooded scenario games are awesome. I had more fun in some of the fire fights in that game then I ever have playing speedball. Working in a platoon, setting ambushes, leading a charge into a village to raise your teams flag, THAT STUFF IS FUN. So what if it is playing army for a day? Didnt you do that when you were a kid? Didnt we all do that? What Im trying to get at, is that we need to promote ALL different faces of our sport. Everyone likes to play their own style of paintball, wether its woodland or speedball. The cool thing about paintball is that there ARE so many ways to play it so it never gets old. Lets respect these types of paintball and not bash one or the other.


-AMEN-

[The Billionare]

I must say. The reason I started this thread was to say that I do not approve of a magazine running an article by an auther discribing his intent to kill people and play army. I don't really have a problem with a person playing paintball in this manner as he does state that he can easily distinguish reality from pretend, however, by running the article APG has givin our oppressors a foothold and made it that much easier to say that we are all like this so that we now are, as a hold, a bunch of psychos, pretending to kill each other! What are your thoughts on that subject?

[paintballer56]

could you rethink before you talk

[Knux68]

I play woods and speedball, so Im torn on a jeresey. Im thinkin on getting the Camo jerseys so it would work in both places hah. I think it makes us look organised but hidden too for both places...

http://store6.yimg.com/I/actionvillage_1643_408501

-Knux hates camo regularly

[The Billionare]

That jersey is perfect. I like it. I think that's what I will buy. I play both. That is good for both you are right! And what the hell are saying rethink before you talk. It's typing for one thing, and it wasn't ever about eliminating woodsball. It was about writing apg and asking them to stop shooting us all in the foot! Read the first reply goof! Could you at least "THINK" before you reply!