used bushy vs. new cocker what to do

[paintballadude]

I am in the same problemas another person. Excep its ab2k with an all-american and a thor reg and some intrnal mods. But the cocker is a 2003 i ould need to bey compressed air for both. B2k used 300 cocker new 379 I also get a 12v revvy with the bushy. If you can give me a god recommendation.(ithink the bushy is a 2001) and its been used a lot. Do you know the warantee on the cocker? and the customer service for the bushy? thanks all info is a help to me:eyes: :| :crazy:

[Wolf PACK]

Seeing how you posted this in the ICD form most people will tell you to get the Bushy. I will tell you why.;)

I am assuming that you are going to get a WGP 2003 cocker.
Auto-cockers are in my opinion one of the greatest gun's. But alittle expensive. You must be thinking how. It is only 300 something $. To get it to the point that it would be a gun equal to a Bushy you would need to put twice the money into it.

The cocker's manically can only make it to 11 BPS no matter what you do (except put an E fram on it) Some people may give you BS about how they can shoot past that it is not possible. You may think that why do I need to shoot faster then 11 BPS. Well when you are playing spee ball and someone is rushing you, u will want that fire power. Even If you can't shoot that fast know you will build up to it.

To even get the Cocker up to 11 BPS you need to change alot of things. After that it is not easy. You need to be very used to your gun. Be able to pull all the way back and forward.

The bushy is alittle easier to maintain then the cocker. THe cocker is not as bad as most people make them out to be but they are still a pain to fix if they are broken.

Some people may say that I don't want to worry about the Electronics. That is true. You have a computer in your gun J/K. But still is electronic. But with a cocker you need to worry about timing the gun and setting it up for the game. Witch is not much but I would say equally to the electronics.

The one thing the cocker does have is distance. It is proven that it is the farthest shoting gun out their. So if you are a backer it may be nice to have something that can shoot that far. Yet their is not a HUGE difference but it is noticeable.

I would say if the Bushy is in good shape get the bushy if not you could always look at the BKO. It is only $300

PS I was in the same situation a while ago. I chose the Bushy because I did not want to spend more money to get the gun one the level I wanted it. I am sure people will tell you you don't need the extra fire power but ity does help. It is more likely to get some one out with 20 Balls then 10 right.

Shoot both see how you like them. You see that alot of people go low end gun (tippmann) to cocker and then electro. I rather just skip a step and go right to electro. I don't want to buy two gun's

I hope this helped. Good Luck finding YOUR perfect gun:)

[Creeper]

The one thing the cocker does have is distance. It is proven that it is the farthest shoting gun out their. So if you are a backer it may be nice to have something that can shoot that far. Yet their is not a HUGE difference but it is noticeable.

Wrong. I'm not gonna even argue about this. You can go into many forums here and see tests people did to prove this wrong. This one guy, can't remember the thread or the guy's name, did an outstanding test of lots of electros (come to think of it, maybe the thread was in the electro forum) and it shows none shot further or had better "trajectory." Its crap the manufacturers beat into your heads and drones mindlessly and emphatically agree.

[SPS16]

yea thats definitely a myth, theres been many of tests that show no evidence that in fact a cocker shoots farther/more accurate then other guns :|

[paintballadude]

yeah thanks alot i really helps. and the bushy is in really good shape. do any of you know if hey make an lpr system form the bushy. also is the all american the way to go for a barrell or a different one?

[Hoplon]

The bushmaster comes with an lpr.


You can replace it with a macdev or a fmd (http://www.vaporworks.net/prod_fmd.html).

Shocktech makes a new plunger that increases the performance of the stock one too. That's what i plan on doing for my bushmaster.

Just make sure you get a barrel that matches the paint you shoot. It's the same for any gun.

[Dark Cloud]

take the bushy. Its a lot easier to use IMO

[Shoe3]

shoot both markers, there is something about a cocker that just makes it so natural, its like it shoots for me, however the same may not be true for you

[paintballadude]

I know i sound really dumb but whats an IMO

[SPS16]

IMO= In My Opinion

[cockermaster]

I owned a cocker and own a bushy and my cocker was more accurate than my bushy. So I will say cockers are more accurate that your open bolt marker. As far as with marker to get if I had the chose I would get the cocker.

[DeadlyDuck]

It's not the fact it's open-bolt, it probably just wasn't shooting at as consistant a velocity as your 'cocker. Just get a good reg, you've got good consistency.


Warpig Closed-bolt vs Open-bolt
http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/paintguns/balistic/closedopen.shtml

[Casper1ns]

wHY WOULD YOU WANT A COCKER IF U CAN A BROKEN IN BUSHY WITH MODS... BUSHY TAKE VERY LITTLE MAINTENCE AND COCKERS IS THE MOST ON THE OTHER HAND.

[ayzian]

Casper1ns wHY WOULD YOU WANT A COCKER IF U CAN A BROKEN IN BUSHY WITH MODS... BUSHY TAKE VERY LITTLE MAINTENCE AND COCKERS IS THE MOST ON THE OTHER HAND.

Cockers do not require the most maintenance. It might look tough but once you get used to it, there's nothing to it. As for which gun to get, it's all personal preference. If you really want to know which gun to get, try both guns and see which one you like better.

[DeadlyDuck]

Though 'cockers may not be as bad as most people say, and not that difficult to maintain, it would be a challenge finding a marker that requires more maintenance than an autococker does.

[ShootPaint]

I have owned both a cocker and a bushy. I have owned three cockers and 6 bushy's all total.

I can say the cocker requires no more maintenence than the bushy for normal day to day play. The cocker will take a little more time to get it setup the way you like it out of the box. This is just a little timing, but nothing major. The general maintenence of the cocker is a little oil here and there about every other week. The bushy requires a little greasing every 3-6 months depending on your playing style. I shoot at least 2000 rounds everytime I play, which is about 2-3 times a month. I probably cleaned and lubed my Bushy two times last year and that was only because my local Young Guns team was borrowing it to goto a tourny.

IMHO I like the bushy over the cocker by a long shot. I prefer the feel of a electronic trigger to a mechanical trigger any day of the week. I also like how much lighter the bushy is compared to the cocker.

If you arent very mechanically inclined I wouldnt recommend the cocker for you, unless you have someone locally that can maintain it for you. The cocker is not a troublesum marker like most would lead you to believe but it does require a little work to keep it running nice and smooth. If you dont know how to work on it you will have a rough time with it.

The only reason I can think of that would make me want a cocker over the bushy is the upgrade factor. I am a major tinkerer. In this area the cocker leaves the bushy far behind. It has more upgrades/aftermarket part than you can even imagine.

If you like to tinker then the cocker maybe your marker.

If you want a marker that will be reliable and easy to maintain I would recommend the bushy.

Either will be a great marker. Do as most people have stated here. Shoot both markers and see which one feels the best to you. It is mostly personal tastes when you get down to buying a marker.