Closed bolt being better

[ry_goody]

Ok a while ago I read that test that they did on open and closed bolts on warpig. They concluded doesn't really make a difference in accuracy, but there test didn't test all aspects of it. I have been thinking, closed bolt still is, possibly, better. Because, since no gas escapes from around the bolt you don't have to turn up your velocity or psi to compensate for that lost pressure. Allowing you to run it at lower pressure, which lower pressure makes it more accurate and therefore closed bolt does in fact make a gun more accurate. Not to mention more efficient since no gas gets wasted by escaping around the bolt

[elTwitcho]

Yeah, and guess what, no gas escapes around open bolt markers such as the angel (which has vacuum feed, which is the opposite of blowback), intimidator, matrix, bushmaster, impulse or countless others. And low pressure is not more accurate anyhow, so I have no idea where that is coming from

[ry_goody]

Low pressure is more accurate o_O

[elTwitcho]

No it isnt, there's nothing to support that, not on paper, webpages, or even through personal experiences between my Spyder (800psi) and my intimidator (180psi)

[simon woodstock]

there's no difference.

[jrr112]

i totally agree, the only difference in my oponion between a spyder or tippmann and a timmy or angel is the pull of the trigger and alot of fancy milling. i like my compact and i dont want to or see the need to change to an electro for a litter trigger pull, i can do that myself for alot less.

[krasher]

I dunno, alot of people seem to think LP shoots farther, or closed bolt is better, on the field. Online it is kind of a taboo.

Hell, joe thinks his cocker shoots farther than daves impulse :)

[Thead]

well lower pressure should make your gun more consistent, which means you'd have less chnace of balls dropping when shooting at your target, which may mean you hit them with less shots, which could be considered as having a more accurate gun. right? :\ heh, i have no idea really, but all i know is my piranha shoots teh same at 600psi and 300psi.

[krasher]

Tell me how LP makes it more consistent.

[elTwitcho]

Pixxies and fairy dust bro

[krasher]

So THATS whats in the bottle fatty gave me.

[ry_goody]

Your saying LP doesn't make it more consistent? Maybe not on nitro because that already consistent, but definantly on co2. Co2's pressure fluctuates betwen like 750 and 850 psi. If it is going through a regulator that outputs at 300 psi than those fluctuations won't make much difference because they don't go as low as 300 psi.

[Thead]

Originally posted by Thead
heh, i have no idea really,

that should indicate i dont know what im talking about, just blabbing up stuff that i read. I said my gun shoots the same at both high and lower psi, so it makes no diff to me.

[harrysacks]

closed bolt describes the chamber where the ball is fired from.the bolt does not slam into it and use the same pressure to blowback and recock

[krasher]

Originally posted by ry_goody
Your saying LP doesn't make it more consistent? Maybe not on nitro because that already consistent, but definantly on co2. Co2's pressure fluctuates betwen like 750 and 850 psi. If it is going through a regulator that outputs at 300 psi than those fluctuations won't make much difference because they don't go as low as 300 psi.


Most tourney players run N2. So then your arguments are invalid.

[krasher]

Originally posted by harrysacks
closed bolt describes the chamber where the ball is fired from.the bolt does not slam into it and use the same pressure to blowback and recock


According to you, Angels are closed bolt.

[elTwitcho]

Actually, that would make all guns closed bolt

[krasher]

Yeah, I know, that's why all guns have the same range :)

I figure, as long as your gun doesn't have blowback and horrendous kick, you're set.

[Volcov]

Well I have a Nova (which operates at 95 PSI) and that thing isn't very efficient at all. The only thing low pressure does that is noticable is put less pressure on your balls.

^Did that last sentance sound weird to you too? :D

[Letchworth40]

i think lp gives you more range because you can use more brittle balls that wont bounce at longer ranges. you get an extended "non-bouncing range"

[krasher]

Originally posted by Dedagain
i think lp gives you more range because you can use more brittle balls that wont bounce at longer ranges. you get an extended "non-bouncing range"


Angels can shoot hellfire and they aren't really LP.

[krasher]

Originally posted by Volcov
Well I have a Nova (which operates at 95 PSI) and that thing isn't very efficient at all. The only thing low pressure does that is noticable is put less pressure on your balls.

^Did that last sentance sound weird to you too? :D


I had a nova too and mine was very effecient off C02.

[Letchworth40]

Originally posted by krasher
Originally posted by Dedagain
i think lp gives you more range because you can use more brittle balls that wont bounce at longer ranges. you get an extended "non-bouncing range"


Angels can shoot hellfire and they aren't really LP.

ah.......

[Richy_C]

Originally posted by elTwitcho
Actually, that would make all guns closed bolt
Considering all bolts are in the closed position when the guns fire I think this whole thing is BS. But twitches gun is blue, so of course it shoots farther, but thats just what he told me.

[Volcov]

My Nova isn't efficient at all, not sure why... But I have a Nova 700, so maybe the older versions weren't as efficient?

[elTwitcho]

Originally posted by Richy_C
Originally posted by elTwitcho
Actually, that would make all guns closed bolt
Considering all bolts are in the closed position when the guns fire I think this whole thing is BS. But twitches gun is blue, so of course it shoots farther, but thats just what he told me.

Listen Richy, the serious player who wants to win is always gonna be willing to pay the extra money to anno or powdercoat their gun blue, blue is a color for the hardcore player and if you're serious about winning you'll be sporting a blue mag in the near future. That's all I have to say about range anymore, and that's the bottom line!

[krasher]

One too many bounces off the head...

[krasher]

Well, there is one way to make your marker shoot farther, without adjusting velocity or backspin.

Have a frontal lobotomy and apply for a job at smart parts.

[paintballer56]

closed bolt is like a half of an inch more accurate or sometihin

[Richy_C]

Really? Back that statment up

[elTwitcho]

Originally posted by krasher
Well, there is one way to make your marker shoot farther, without adjusting velocity or backspin.

Have a frontal lobotomy and apply for a job at smart parts.

lol. Now just imagine a blue shocker. scary man, just scary