View Full Version : WAS Board Vs. Cricket
frost
04-16-2003, 11:55 AM
I was just curious is there a release date on the WAS board? If so when? What makes the WAS so much better than the cricket? I know it has vision and differnt fireing modes but is that it?
Jabroni3116
04-16-2003, 12:39 PM
well...the fact that the was board is supposidly supposed to rid the impulse of the cursid FSOD due to voltage problems and bad board design on the part of smart parts. Also will help to speed the gun up due to a new eye included. Also...going by WAS reputation with all the intimidators that are graced with this board....I know I will be buying one!!!
paintballnsc112
04-16-2003, 03:20 PM
different firing modes:eyes:
other modes are a waist
c0ck3r_b0i
04-16-2003, 03:23 PM
indeed, unless you play woods...but hey woods are a waste too!:D
heyheyhey
04-16-2003, 03:28 PM
new vision = dope
was board = nope
c0ck3r_b0i
04-16-2003, 03:35 PM
new vision? tell me about it!
thebluenu
04-16-2003, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by heyheyhey
new vision = dope
was board = nope
have you tried the was board? if you havent...... well... dont diss it then.....
heyheyhey
04-16-2003, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by c0ck3r_b0i
new vision? tell me about it!
reads black paint
eye-off is now capped at 20
and its alllllll on my gun:D
c0ck3r_b0i
04-16-2003, 05:44 PM
oh, that special cricket board? isnt it called like super cricket board ?
themann2003
04-16-2003, 07:04 PM
I don't believe the WAS board will have firing modes.
I think of it this way: I don't see how one could outperform each other. The Vision, which has the lowest cap number (20) is faster than anyone can possibly shoot, so why would a higher firing cap make a difference? The WAS board will be cheaper, but as of now it doesn't look like it's going to be out for a long, long time. They both can see all types of paint now as well. Plus, the WAS might have some first shipment bugs (even though it is the best on Timmies, this is a whole other marker), the SP Vision Eye has been on this marker for a long time. So you gotta ask yourself: save a few bucks and wait for the WAS, or spend a little more and get the Vision. I myself just ordered a Vision board, can't wait till I get it.
nycpb.com
04-17-2003, 07:35 AM
i dont see why people are complaining about was products, everything is top quality and they rarely have any problems when they're released
annoying to see that people are complaining about the imp was board when it hasn't even been released yet
themann2003
04-17-2003, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by nycpb.com
i dont see why people are complaining about was products, everything is top quality and they rarely have any problems when they're released
annoying to see that people are complaining about the imp was board when it hasn't even been released yet
I'd like for you to show me where I was 'complaining' about the WAS board. I'm giving suggestions. That's what this guy is asking for. Also, I do not care if they rarely have had problems when introduced to new guns; it doesn't mean it will be the same for this. The bottomline is that the WAS board will be equal to the SP Vision, it will only have a higher firing cap and be less expensive.
c0ck3r_b0i
04-17-2003, 09:40 AM
im tired of waiting for was...im just gonna get regular vision:(
thebluenu
04-17-2003, 10:06 AM
i think they said "by the end of january"...... sigh, its mid april....
themann2003
04-17-2003, 10:29 AM
Well I finally just gave up, and ordered my Vision this morning! Yay!
Exit Woundz
04-17-2003, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by nycpb.com
i dont see why people are complaining about was products, everything is top quality and they rarely have any problems when they're released
annoying to see that people are complaining about the imp was board when it hasn't even been released yet Uh .. The president of WAS over at PBNation was bashing this other guys product for an Impy in the OTHER guys thread, and acts like an ***. If you don't believe me, here's a link, and it's been done on more then 1 occasion: http://pbnation.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=218909
i like tictacs
04-17-2003, 11:04 AM
wait for the chaos chip
thebluenu
04-17-2003, 11:07 AM
wow that was guy is a ****head..... if thast the real president of was, thats just lame....
frost
04-17-2003, 11:16 AM
Whats this Chaos chip u speak of what can it do? DOes it come with and anti chop eye??
heyheyhey
04-17-2003, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by Exit Woundz
Uh .. The president of WAS over at PBNation was bashing this other guys product for an Impy in the OTHER guys thread, and acts like an ***. If you don't believe me, here's a link, and it's been done on more then 1 occasion: http://pbnation.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=218909
man..... even more reason to not buy it
he acts like an *** wipe
themann2003
04-17-2003, 01:19 PM
Makes me glad I ordered my SP Vision yesterday :)
flagman
04-17-2003, 04:10 PM
if you guys won't buy possibly the best board on the market because the owner has total confidence in his product, you are stupid....i will be patiently waiting for the was board to hit the scene... until then, i am stuck with my vision board
heyheyhey
04-17-2003, 04:38 PM
well, the new vision hasnt dissapointed me one bit
flagman
04-17-2003, 06:24 PM
i am not doubting that it hasn't... but, the was board allows the gun to shoot much faster, due to the better board, and the placement of the eye. i like my vision, but it will not compare to the cheaper, faster WAS board
themann2003
04-17-2003, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by flagman
i am not doubting that it hasn't... but, the was board allows the gun to shoot much faster, due to the better board, and the placement of the eye. i like my vision, but it will not compare to the cheaper, faster WAS board
Well I say this: if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You can't possibly outshoot the SP Vision's cap of 20 bps, and you've already payed for it, so why buy a 120 dollar item just to get the same results?
Zujin
04-17-2003, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by flagman
i am not doubting that it hasn't... but, the was board allows the gun to shoot much faster, due to the better board, and the placement of the eye. i like my vision, but it will not compare to the cheaper, faster WAS board
Ok i know i dont own an impulse but jsut my 2 cents:
Y do u REALLY NEED to shoot faster? i understand the eye so that u dont chop b/c just about anyone can out run a Revy. But sheesh u would think 12 bps was fast enough to hit someone. Besides, try aiming before shooting.
themann2003
04-18-2003, 07:07 AM
Well, for me, I can now play as a backman and create lots and lots of cover fire without having to worry about chopping (Halo B and Vision make a deadly combo :crazy: ) but when the Halo B, the fastest loader on the market, can only load at about 22 bps, what's the point of having a board cap of like 33? I highly doubt that I can shoot maybe 14-15 bps when walking the I-Frame, and that's arguably the fastest trigger on the market for the Impulse. We all can't shoot at fast as we think (or should I say as fast as we want...).
isaaclim
04-18-2003, 07:48 AM
yeah themann, right on.....I think with my imp set up i can only shoot like 6-10bps!!!:laugh:
i've got pathetic fingers, but i honestly don't "hear" or "see" people shoot much faster than me at the fields i play at and the timmy w/ WAS is very popular where i'm at. But these guys will still go on about how they can hit like 24bps and so on.
Isaac
p.s. even thought they aren't shooting 24bps, they still kick my arse with their mad skizillz.
themann2003
04-18-2003, 07:51 AM
Heh, thanks.
flagman
04-18-2003, 01:25 PM
if you have ever shot an intimidator with the sob board... and then shoot a WAS intimidator, you will notice a significant difference in how fast you shoot, and how easy it is to achieve those high rates of fire. the was board is super sweet, and if you buy one... you will notice a huge difference in how fast you shoot and how easy it is to shoot that fast
tyler
themann2003
04-18-2003, 01:44 PM
I don't see how a board on an Impulse is going to 'make' you shoot faster...it's your trigger and your fingers that make you shoot, not a board. WAS Boards on Intimidators are nice though, but that may be because the others are pretty crummy. The new SP Vision rules.
Terminator1
04-18-2003, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by themann2003
I don't see how a board on an Impulse is going to 'make' you shoot faster...it's your trigger and your fingers that make you shoot, not a board. WAS Boards on Intimidators are nice though, but that may be because the others are pretty crummy. The new SP Vision rules.
Sorry but your wrong, if the board is capable of only 10bps and your shooting 15 bps, then the board is holding you back, so in this instance the Cricket boards are holding BPS down, the board can actually slow you down! The WAS board will be the best thing out for impulses. It will be very welcomed into the upgrade family! :-)
flagman
04-18-2003, 02:04 PM
terminator! yes!!!
themann2003
04-18-2003, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by Terminator1
Sorry but your wrong, if the board is capable of only 10bps and your shooting 15 bps, then the board is holding you back, so in this instance the Cricket boards are holding BPS down, the board can actually slow you down! The WAS board will be the best thing out for impulses. It will be very welcomed into the upgrade family! :-)
That's correct, but I HIGHLY doubt you could ever reach the SP Vision's cap, let alone WAS's.
heyheyhey
04-18-2003, 02:55 PM
like uhhh anyone here can shoot 20bps consistently in a game:rolleyes:
seriously, going from vision to was, you wont notice any huge groundbreaking experience:|
themann2003
04-18-2003, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by heyheyhey
like uhhh anyone here can shoot 20bps consistently in a game:rolleyes:
seriously, going from vision to was, you wont notice any huge groundbreaking experience:|
:nod:
heyheyhey
04-18-2003, 04:29 PM
.... and, since the new vision has come out......
also, if youve already got the vision, i can tell you right up front, there is no way the was can be worth $120 to switch:eek:
isaaclim
04-18-2003, 05:25 PM
i think the only real benefit the WAS will provide over the vision is better power supply for the solenoid.
There is this issue of power regulation that the impy boards do to the solenoid. If I remember correctly, the old amber/green boards did not regulate the 9v energy coming in, but the crickets do. This would explain why I got FSDO with my cricket when I never ever had FSDO with my amber/green board. I think if I clean out my hammer/ram assembly and maybe some different pressure/dwell combos can help.
Other than that, Smart parts has done a better job by upgrading their software. I still believe the WAS will be a better system, but if you got vision right now and all you have to do is upgrade the software, why not? saves you some cash moneys and you'll have little/no issues on paint reading abilities.
I will agree that timmies w/ WAS are a whole new beast than with the SOB, but shooting more than 20bps.....come on people. Be reasonable here. You honestly think you can wiggle your fingers back and forth that fast? make a vid or something cuz i know i'd like to see and hear that.
Isaac
heyheyhey
04-18-2003, 05:38 PM
well.... i have absolutle no fsdo at all with this new vision and a properly lubed gun:)
themann2003
04-18-2003, 06:26 PM
I don't either.
flagman
04-18-2003, 07:13 PM
since the vision board will only be able to shoot 20 bps... you will lose firepower in bursts.... if your board can handle say 1 million shots a sec.(was) you will be able to put more balls in the air in a less amount of time, that would be good for snapshooting... i can't wait for the was board!
to those of you who want to stick with vision, i will sell you mine when the was comes out
themann2003
04-18-2003, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by flagman
since the vision board will only be able to shoot 20 bps... you will lose firepower in bursts.... if your board can handle say 1 million shots a sec.(was) you will be able to put more balls in the air in a less amount of time, that would be good for snapshooting... i can't wait for the was board!
to those of you who want to stick with vision, i will sell you mine when the was comes out
WHAT! You CANNOT possibly shoot 20 bps in any type of form, whether it be bursts or whatever. When you snap shoot, you shoot 2-3 balls, not 20. Also, the WAS can't handle 1 million shots per second, are you crazy?
flagman
04-18-2003, 07:27 PM
yes, it can... and it does... it checks the for trigger cycles 1million times a second...meaning that the board can handle 1 million bps... the gun never can, and no one will ever be able to shoot that fast... but it does help in bursts, because if it take less effort and time to shoot fast, you can and will be able to shoot more in a snapshot.
how fast do you think you can shoot a gun? i have gotten 16 as my best over a chrono
my setup?
vison pulse
nd blade
smoke halo
boomstick
gladiator
themann2003
04-18-2003, 07:36 PM
It still doesn't matter; I don't care if a board 'scans' my trigger 20 billion times a milisecond, it still isn't going to 'make' me shoot faster. It will only allow me to. See, you've shot at most 16bps; no reason to spend 120 on something that you're going to shoot the same speed.
flagman
04-18-2003, 07:43 PM
that is 16 with just a blade... if the i frame adds what it is supposed to, then i will be sitting at about 18-19. couple that with the was board... that is one bad gun. when i get my was board, i will make a vid... and you make a vid of your vision, and hopefully then you will learn that the was board is worth the money
[X5] FLIP
04-18-2003, 08:18 PM
Man you guys need to check how much bps your shooting at and I doubt you will get an extra 2-3bps from a frame. Thats like saying you will get 10 more horse power from a pine air freshener. lol. I use the stock trigger and I can barely out shoot my 12v non x board. I can outshoot my hopper if I wanted to, but I would be holding my gun in a totaly diffrent way and my aim would be so off because I wont even be holding the gun in my hand.
heyheyhey
04-19-2003, 06:06 AM
Originally posted by flagman
since the vision board will only be able to shoot 20 bps... you will lose firepower in bursts.... if your board can handle say 1 million shots a sec.(was) you will be able to put more balls in the air in a less amount of time, that would be good for snapshooting... i can't wait for the was board!
to those of you who want to stick with vision, i will sell you mine when the was comes out
riiiiiiiight:rolleyes:
one person has hit 23 at one point in time - rich telford
ok, thats one ball that wouldnt go out of the gun...... what would we do:rolleyes:
so, you wanna pay 120 for 1 ball? even if any of us could pull that fast?:rolleyes:
RED_MAN02
04-19-2003, 08:10 AM
So this new WAS board would be good for people that didn't want to buy a Vision when they first got their impy but now want to add vision cuz they have the cash?
monkeybacon00
04-19-2003, 08:25 AM
sure redman, but you gotta understand that it wont be out for a while.
so you would be better off buying vision than waiting forever for something that isnt that much better.
heyheyhey
04-19-2003, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by monkeybacon00
sure redman, but you gotta understand that it wont be out for a while.
so you would be better off buying vision than waiting forever for something that isnt that much better.
yes
there is no point in waiting for the was if you have the cash for the vision now
;)
RED_MAN02
04-19-2003, 08:57 AM
Well i kinda don't have an Impy right at this moment so when I get the Impy by the time I want to order a vision board WAS will probably be out.
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