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Big_Red
04-21-2003, 04:33 PM
Can the Black Dragun's really shoot 20 balls per second? If so why would anyone buy an Angel?

Thanks

MuffinMan14
04-21-2003, 04:38 PM
its an estimate, it max aobut 16-18
angel are way freaking holy jesus better a freaking Black Dragun
plus a new angel SPEED can get 30 off. :love:
angel is basically already perfect, almost no upgeaded are needed.
has delrin bolt
good elctronic frame
not a blowback
etc............................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...............
:finger: :devil: :idea: :dizzy:

Big_Red
04-21-2003, 05:00 PM
Damn, so it can actually shoot that fast.......

BUT even the most expensive Black Dragun with every upgrade possible is like 1/4th the cost of an Angel.....

Zujin
04-21-2003, 06:09 PM
actaully...a BD LCD WILL do 20 bps. i got the sound file to prove it.
and about the Angel...lets put it this way, its like going from a pinto to a Corvette. Angel has almost no recoil and just simply feels better u could say.

stupid_ricers
04-21-2003, 06:20 PM
its not all about speed, the reason y angels cost a lot more is because of the amount of research and development put into them. the money also goes into the qaulity of the gun. rate of fire has nothing to do with how much the gun costs. just look and the sniper and phantom, they're still pump guns but can still cost more than most entry level semis which can shoot faster than them.

GoalieKeg14
04-21-2003, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by stupid_ricers
its not all about speed, the reason y angels cost a lot more is because of the amount of research and development put into them. the money also goes into the qaulity of the gun. rate of fire has nothing to do with how much the gun costs. just look and the sniper and phantom, they're still pump guns but can still cost more than most entry level semis which can shoot faster than them.

Another reason that angels are more expensive than all other guns is because of the name of the gun. Say "angel". Doesn't it sound expensive??? It's just like Nike. You put the swoosh on a product and BOOM it triples in price than what it's really worth. Same with the angel. You gotta admit though, the guns are pretty sweet. I just don't want to spend 10 paychecks on one. Well, mabye 11.

Big_Red
04-21-2003, 10:05 PM
Well from what I have heard from other people, the Angel's accuracy isnt very good, and basically its just a paint hose (what I have heard in the past) so considering a Black Dragun will keep up, thats pretty damn good in my book. But I'm sure an Angel shoots really damn nice.

stupid_ricers
04-21-2003, 10:50 PM
im betting that an angel with a good paint/bore match will shoot a little more accurate than the same setupthan with a bd. the reason to this is the the bd is a blow back, while the angel is an electro pneumatic. with bd the have a little more kick to it which my throw of shot to shot accuracy a little bit.

kaibutsu
04-21-2003, 11:21 PM
Both(LP and HP) of my BD's shoot just as accurate as my friend's EM1, '03 Cocker, B2K3, B2K, and Angel IR3. It's all about matching the barrel and paint to your particular setup. I had to lower the pressure on my HP setup because the trigger bounce was geting out of hand .:crazy: Consistency and gadgets out of the box are what set the markers apart. Marketing, R&D, and low production numbers are what make the Angel so expensive.

Zujin
04-22-2003, 11:37 AM
thats one thing i think an BD has over a Angel...BD's can trigger bounce like MADDD

Shoe3
04-22-2003, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by MuffinMan14
its an estimate, it max aobut 16-18
angel are way freaking holy jesus better a freaking Black Dragun
plus a new angel SPEED can get 30 off. :love:
angel is basically already perfect, almost no upgeaded are needed.
has delrin bolt
good elctronic frame
not a blowback
etc............................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...............
:finger: :devil: :idea: :dizzy:

you are forgetting that the angel costs nearly 9 times as much...

Big_Red
04-22-2003, 03:02 PM
Dumb Question: What is Trigger Bounce? And is it good or bad?

Thanks

And I think I'm prolly gonna get a BD now.

Zujin
04-22-2003, 05:31 PM
its when the recoil of the gun causes you to fire the trigger repeatedly. if done right it will be like full auto(its illegal in NPPL touney's)