Turbo

[Intimidator]

Why is Turbo allowed on Fields and full auto is not? On my gun Turbo has the same ROF as auto, So why can't I use both?

[Predator2]

hmmmm only God knows.

[Counterfeit]

Turbo isn't allowed at tournies and most fields.

[MuckRaker]

Originally posted by Intimidator
Why is Turbo allowed on Fields and full auto is not? On my gun Turbo has the same ROF as auto, So why can't I use both?

Is turbo a Reactive Trigger thing, where you're finger has to make make contact with the trigger, even lightly? Full Auto, I seem to recall, you just keep the trigger pulled and it fires.

[Counterfeit]

Originally posted by MuckRaker
Originally posted by Intimidator
Why is Turbo allowed on Fields and full auto is not? On my gun Turbo has the same ROF as auto, So why can't I use both?

Is turbo a Reactive Trigger thing, where you're finger has to make make contact with the trigger, even lightly? Full Auto, I seem to recall, you just keep the trigger pulled and it fires.

No, turbo is an certain kind of firing mode for electro. It has different kind of combo's, like 2 trigger pulls equals 3 shots will be fired. I think warpig has a better explanation.

[elTwitcho]

That's the shocker's turbo mode. The intimidator turbo is kinda neat. If you fire 2 shots faster than 7bps, on the second shot, a third shot while immediately follow. The time between the 2 and 3rd shots is 1/14th of a second. An intimidator in Turbo sounds like "pop pop-pop pop pop-pop" which is really distinctive. The shocker on the other hand pretty much slams into full auto after the third shot as long as you move your finger faster than 7 balls per second, which also is a distinctive sound that you can pick up. Because of this sound, it's really easy for refs to pick up on you using it, and really difficult for you to pass it off as being semi auto. Most fields disalow turbo, but I've seen a few that let you use it

[TLplus84]

Turbo mode is when the computer makes the gun shoot faster than what you're actually shooting. Usually, turbo mode gets activated when your trigger gets pulled a certain number of bps, then the balls start to come out like 1.5 balls per trigger pull, or 3 per 2, like counterfeit sed. If i got you more confused, sorry :D

[koolaidman88]

what happened to plain old semi? r people really getting that lazy to shoot each time?? jeez, ill stick with semi any day.

[TLplus84]

yep that's one of the reasons why i won 't get an ep gun..i'll get lazy hehe :P

[elTwitcho]

Originally posted by TLplus84
Turbo mode is when the computer makes the gun shoot faster than what you're actually shooting. Usually, turbo mode gets activated when your trigger gets pulled a certain number of bps, then the balls start to come out like 1.5 balls per trigger pull, or 3 per 2, like counterfeit sed. If i got you more confused, sorry :D

Yeah, 2 shots on the second, not really 1.5 per pull, because you cant shoot half a ball... well you can, but that's hardly something you want to TRY and do

[TLplus84]

when i meant 1.5 balls per pull, try to figure it a 3 balls per 2 pulls. I didn't mean the 1.5 literaly..i shoulda just sed 3 balls to every 2 pulls..

[Predator2]

tlplus84 is just using his math skills called simplifying

[elTwitcho]

I know how to simplify, it's just if you've ever used Turbo, it doesnt feel like 1.5 shots per pull, it feels like 2 shots for one pull, every other pull. 1 and a half would mean it felt like a really smooth action, which unfortunately it does not. Didnt mean to start anything by this, it's just that I think 2 on the second is more accurate than 1 and a half, because that's not really what it's like. Dont take any offence to it :)

[SmartBall]

Why can't we just get rid of this thing called turbo, and replace it with resonce trigger? No offence to any turbo lovers, but i have never realy liked the fact that you can be firing three balls really fast and then all of a sudden, a forth ball comes out. I like the responce trigger becuase you know what your going to fire, whether its four balls, eight balls, or ten balls. It's nice because it fires once on the pull, and once on the realease. So you just count by twos, no geussing! :) just my opinion though.

[elTwitcho]

My trigger's too short for that :) Plain ole semi is my favorite though, given the choice I'd still use it, just because I can get a hella fast ROF (not as fast as turbo, but fast) and half the fun is in pullin the trigger.

[Paintball Monkey]

Actually the newest NPPL rule is SEMI-ONLY!!! You aren't even allowed to have the options on the board anymore... This means the manufacturer will have to make a board that is capable of only shooting semi with no other enhanced modes available... and it has to be the original manufacturer's equipment, no aftermarket boards allowed.

[elTwitcho]

Yeah I know, it's a load of... well you know what it's a load of. But that is a totally different thread anyhow. And it's not implemented yet, so hopefully they'll change their minds

[Paintball Monkey]

Actually it is! Manufacturers at Mardi Gras (ICD) were showing their semi only boards. From what I hear from my buddies in Colorado, the Las Vegas tournament enforced the rule.

[elTwitcho]

Crap, kinda sucks that they implemented that. People who cheat can reporgram a semi only board just as easily as a non semi board, so here we've got to change our chips for no good reason whatsoever.

[polarbear]

Originally posted by Paintball Monkey
Actually the newest NPPL rule is SEMI-ONLY!!! You aren't even allowed to have the options on the board anymore... This means the manufacturer will have to make a board that is capable of only shooting semi with no other enhanced modes available... and it has to be the original manufacturer's equipment, no aftermarket boards allowed.

R u saying that angles would not be allowed???

[elTwitcho]

No, an angel with the stock chip wouldnt be allowed. Any angel owner (or any owner of an electro with advanced fire modes) would have to replace the chip inside his marker to comply with the new NPPL rules

[Paintball Monkey]

...and not with just any chip either. The chip has to be the original manufacturer's equipment, which means Angel owners would have to buy a chip from WDP, Intimidator owners go to Bob Long, etc...

[elTwitcho]

Which is total BS because say you have a bushy with chaos chip and anti-chop eye, then the new semi bushy chips dont have eye support, you're out of the use of a very good upgrade. That and companies that make the chaos chip or the glacier boards are gonna be out of buisiness. Total load of "you know what". I dunno, I'd be even more angy if I invested in a chaos bushy, lucky I didnt I suppose

[polarbear]

Ok then if I would ever play in a tournament would my 4 by 4 be OK than? From what you have said it sounds like it would. And isn't a board that you buy not with the marker whether from the markers company or some other, automatically after market?

[PBSouLjAh]

instead of makin people waste their money and make them buy a stock chip....they should just make some kinda tourney lock. it would be cheaper and better for people with angel chips or intimmy chips....cuz if i were someone with an electro...i would hate to keep changing my chips....and wasting a 200$ chip just for rec ball.

[Paintball Monkey]

there are tourney locks, but the reasoning behind it is that with these chips you can have stealth modes where you have to fire in a certain sequence to unlock the "secret" mode.

[elTwitcho]

Yep, the stock chips have tourney locks which work just dandy. They're worried about people who have recently been reprogramming their chips, so that it is in semi auto, until the person performs a special sequence of events, like "Two rapid shots, then hold the trigger for 5 seconds" and it goes into Turbo mode. The incredibly ******* thing about this, is that to do that, you need to reprogram the chip, which is as easy to do with a semi chip as any other chip. Another factor in it is insurance companies finding something new to gripe about, and now it's enhanced fire modes. Dont be surprised if the "offical paint of the NPPL" is those stupid foam balls in a little while.

[NickR]

Why cant we all go back to that thing called skill. That thing that made it so you depended on being able to aim instead of hopeing that 1 out of the 50 balls you shot in like 3 seconds hit them. I would feel much safer with an acurate semiautomatic cocker than i would if i had an angel.

[elTwitcho]

A cocker can shoot fast. High rate of fire does NOT take away from skill. If anyhting, it requires more skill, you gotta keep smaller, snap shoot quicker, and you've gotta communicate with your teamates. If you're constantly getting taken out by guys with electros, it's not because they suck and they shoot fast, it's because you've neglected these very fundamental and most basic of all paintball skills.

[Intimidator]

Originally posted by PBSouLjAh
instead of makin people waste their money and make them buy a stock chip....they should just make some kinda tourney lock. it would be cheaper and better for people with angel chips or intimmy chips....cuz if i were someone with an electro...i would hate to keep changing my chips....and wasting a 200$ chip just for rec ball.


Intimidator have tourney lock!