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Ded
02-18-2001, 05:51 PM
how big of an air compressor do you have ot have to fill N2 tanks? and about how much would one of these cost?

Counterfeit
02-18-2001, 06:15 PM
One that fills at 3000psi or 4500psi. The will run you $1500-3500

antiramie
02-18-2001, 06:18 PM
Dont you need pure nitrogen to use nitro tanks...or can u just use plain air?

MuckRaker
02-18-2001, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by antiramie
Dont you need pure nitrogen to use nitro tanks...or can u just use plain air?
:cool:
Nitro is compressed air, I'd like to shoot the fool who started calling them Nitro tanks.

antiramie
02-18-2001, 06:23 PM
How moronic.

Counterfeit
02-18-2001, 06:25 PM
Nope, nitro is Nitrogen. A air compressor will fill the tank with compressed air. that is what most tanks are filled with. Compressed air is very siimilar to nitrogen. Nitrogen will work just as good as compressed air. Compressed air is 80% nitrogen.

Most people call what they fill their tank with Nitro for short, even if they are using compressed air. It is just easier to say :)

elTwitcho
02-18-2001, 06:29 PM
The first tanks were actually filled with nitrogen, compressed air came around shortly after. And nitro is just easier to say :)

Counterfeit
02-18-2001, 06:32 PM
Tanks are still filled with nitrogen eltwitcho. not as often as Compressed air though. And the first tanks were filled compressed air and nitrogen.

MuckRaker
02-18-2001, 06:34 PM
Yes, but every field I've walked onto has only Compressed Air, I understand you're point, but the tank is basically a compressed air tank, there is no difference I've been able to tell between tanks that are called Nitro tanks and those that are called Compressed Air or High Pressure Air tanks.

They may be called many different things, but in reality they are all Compressed Air tanks.

antiramie
02-18-2001, 06:38 PM
Does that extra 20% of Nitro really do anything extra special...no. They should just get rid of calling it nitro then and start calling everything thats not CO2 compressed air and stop filling tanks with pure nitrogen. Plus i bet filling with pure nitrogen is a hell of a lot more expensive than using compressed air.

Counterfeit
02-18-2001, 06:45 PM
What is the big deal with calling it nitro? You don't have to. And Anti, why would any one want to ban filling it with N2?

TLplus84
02-18-2001, 06:55 PM
hey anti compressed air is 80% nitrogen..so it really wouldn't be that expensive..

Model98
02-19-2001, 03:54 AM
Does anyone have any recommendations for a decent (Under $200) nitro tank that can be screwed into an ASA Adapter?

I don't want to go to a full blown nitro set up as I want to retain the ability to use CO2 if needed (Yes you can flame me for still using CO2 if you'd like :P ).

Also are there any minor modifications that I need to make to my marker before I will be able to use a nitro tank?

polarbear
02-19-2001, 07:10 AM
I wouldn't flame you for that I use co2 for the backyard we have a fill station in the gargage very easy to to refill during a long day. And the Shocker use a lot of air. But I am looking to get a N2 for when I go on a leage I'm joining.

TLplus84
02-19-2001, 08:39 AM
a good system for under 200 is the Pure Energy tanks. They are i think around 170, and they are nice. they ahve a fast recharge rate, and the reg is very consistant.

PetWoody
02-19-2001, 10:04 AM
i got the bulldog and it was only 180 for the adjustable 68ci

was gonna get the 110ci but ACI discontinued them, now there gonna make 90CI tanks

Watupi
02-19-2001, 10:49 AM
Bulldogs are very nice tanks. One of the best preset regs you can buy. The downside it that they are white, which is just plain ugly.

Ded
02-19-2001, 11:48 AM
what are the main advantages of shooting Nitro over CO2?

TLplus84
02-19-2001, 11:51 AM
Co2, when used over a long long period of time, cuases abrasion to your internals, but N2 doesnt. Also, N2 tends to be cleaner than Co2 doees. Also, N2 is alot more stable than Co2, so you don't get velocity spikes and such. N2 also is not affected by the cold weather, so you dont' have to worry about your gun burping because of the cold, like you would with Co2. N2 is regulated air, so you get more consistant velocities, which means in tourneys, you can go closer to the chrono limit without the worries of shooting hot when you come off the field.

SmartBall
02-19-2001, 12:01 PM
When you said, "every feild i go to only fills there tanks with Compressed air". Thats just the opposite for me. Every feild I go to fills 'em with nitrogen, out of a tank like the cowns use for their ballons, that destincly says "nitrogen" on it. The only place i can get my N2 tank filled with Compressed air is at teh Pro shop

Ded
02-19-2001, 06:09 PM
so i take it the advantages of getting a nitro tank outweigh the cost am I right?

also we don't have any place around here to fill compressed air, the closest place is about an hour away

would it then be worth it to go in with some friends and purchase an air compressor?

Counterfeit
02-19-2001, 09:33 PM
Ded, you can always goto a local scuba shop and get your tank filled there.

elTwitcho
02-20-2001, 05:17 AM
Dont buy an air compressor. Buy a SUBA tank (those big tanks that divers use, not some funky paintball acronym, dont worry :) ) and ask your local pro shop about Compressed air fill stations for a scuba tank. Then you can fill your tanks from the scuba tank, and you get pretty much unlimited air, at a fraction of the cost for buying an air compressor. An air compressor just isnt worth the money

Phaelon Veritas
02-20-2001, 06:04 AM
alhough counterfeit is right about compressors needing high output he is wrong about cost there are alternative I believe it is agd who makes a booster to boost a standard compressors psi to 3000 - 4500 don't quote me on much of this I just saw the product as it was advertised hell if you were going to buy a compressor and a booster I think counter's conveyed opinion still stands a compressor and booster is still a very expensive approach however if you own a standard compressor some may want to look into this