sniping is a legitimate tactic in paintball period

[rathkim]

sniping is a legitimate tactic in paintball period

http://paintballgods.com/sniperhq.htm

http://www.paintballgods.com/sniperhq.htm#maddog

read it

[Paint Bulley]

few problems with those essay's...

1) they said take out the most important player (all players are important)
2) make 100% sure you can hit them on first shot (paintballs are never 100%)


but that is in regular paintball.

In huge paintball games - 12 hours or more with base camps and the works then I do agree with you. there can be a guy who's job it is to take out the leader. cuz a sniper's job is to take out a given person, so if he just goes out and shoots whoever he's not a sniper. Not that there are actual sniper's since a sniper is one shot one kill (and you can't do that in paintball.

but that's just my 2 cents.

i contradicted myself didn't I

[rathkim]

i agree. snipers will not work well at all in any kind of tourney play like speedball.

even rec paintball. if the field is less than 5 acres and games that last less than 20 minutes, you can forget about sniping as a effective tactic.

but at fields like http://www.paintballjungle.com, the fields are about 50 acres. the games lasts 30 minutes.

sniping is fine.

i only play big fields and long games.

i am a newbie, i don't think i am quick enough to play the speedball games.

i am actually a bit intimidated by it.

i also like reading about the veitnam war and world war 2 so i tend to like the bigger fields.

in the end, i love to snipe and be sneaky in big fields.

i call my tactic the coward's tactic. what i do is i have a flatline barrel with a rifle scope on it. i hide and stay out of range on either the left or right wire. i then wait for the front players to eliminate each other. then i hide and use my scope to get shoot at the remaining opponents at long ranges and if they do discover me, their guns cannot reach me. if they move close, i retreat and then hide and do it all over again.

:)



[Edited by rathkim on 08-01-2001 at 08:30 PM]

[Magadeth]

Originally posted by rathkim

in the end, i love to snipe and be sneaky in big fields.

i call my tactic the coward's tactic. what i do is i have a flatline barrel with a rifle scope on it. i hide and stay out of range on either the left or right wire. i then wait for the front players to eliminate each other. then i hide and use my scope to get shoot at the remaining opponents at long ranges and if they do discover me, their guns cannot reach me. if they move close, i retreat and then hide and do it all over again.

:)



[Edited by rathkim on 08-01-2001 at 08:30 PM]

Sorry to break it to you, but that isn't sniping, it's camping. You will learn.

[Paint Bulley]

why don't you attack?

and magadeath do you wear a chest protector?

[paintballer56]

i used to be a sniper, until i was getting enough action

[harrysacks]

i wouldnt have the patince to snipe in paintball.
it would be hard with a time limit

[Magadeth]

Originally posted by Paint Bulley
why don't you attack?

and magadeath do you wear a chest protector?

What I have on my chest is an army surplus A.L.I.C.E. tactical rig that I have modified to hold 100 rnd tubes. I play speedball as well as woods and even when playing woods, I dont always take the role of sniper. I like to think that I am a well rounded paintballer. In woods, I normally snipe for 2-3 games and then take it easy for the rest of the day. True sniping is very physically demanding as it requires you to move in ways that you normally dont. If you dont believe me, try to lowcrawl as fast as you would normally walk, as if you were following someone. Lowcrawling is when you are on your belly as close to the ground as possible. move one leg up by bringing your knee up to your waist and then extend your gun and arms in front of you. Then use your foot to push your body forward. 10 - 15 minutes of this can be quite tireing.

[JDoGG]

lol, even if it is a legitimit tactic(which it isnt), its really a good waste of time!!

[custom98pro]

Well, I am sorta of a sniper, but I usually just consider myself a Stealthy player. I sneak around ppl and once I get a clear shot, I nail them. I usually end up nailing them in the back.

[CDietz]

Originally posted by paintballer56
i used to be a sniper, until i was getting enough action

dude, didnt u say you only play hyperball, airball, and speedball since there is no woods? if so how is it possible to snipe in these fields?

i know there is a small bit of real snipers, but usually they dont extist

[unknown]

agreed with cdietz on the pb56 thing..... u said u played only speedball!

i am under the opinion sniping doesnt exist in speedball. A.) people almost always know where you are. B.) You can't be so accurate with tons of paint coming at you.

in woods, you can focus on it, but you MUST distinguish the fact between camping and sniping.

[Jackel]

Yes, you use sniper tactics, no, you cannot be a pure sniper b/c a sniper goes in and fires from 500+ meters. This is the established norm for the Marine Corps, the Army Snipers, Russian and German snipers, and most other snipers throughout the world and you cannot chnage that. And a sniper must stay out of the normal visual detection range which the established norm for most nations is 250m. Sniping *tactics* are very acceptable and are the smartest way to go. But moving in, flanking the enemy, removing individuals, playing pyscological war, sharpshooting and retreating, you become an asset to the team. Most 'snipers' sit around and wait for a target that might come or not come and sit there the entire time, not moving after shooting. Now you beomce a liability.

[Magnus55]

I'm sending this to the general paintball forum so you can squabble about snipers over there. ;)

[blake_sw]

Originally posted by rathkim
sniping is a legitimate tactic in paintball period


OOO OOO, thx 4 claering taht up 4 me. Nows I take teh camo gear and puts it on! I R being stealth. I R snipping wit tipmen flatline. U cants c me cuz of stealth.
WACTH OUT, YUO SI NEXT
YUO R A NEWBIE, PERIOD

How come when I hit a player from the back bunker he doesn't say "OH, YOU SNIPERED ME!" Because he's not a newbie, he doesn't wear camo, we're playing airball and oh did I mention he's not a camo wearing newbie???
pr0k, would you like to shed some light on this topic using Jeff K speeling?
kthxbye

[carfreak]

i am sick of posting this over and over again but i will do it again.

Main Entry: 2snipe
Function: intransitive verb
Inflected Form(s): sniped; snip·ing
Date: 1832
1 : to shoot at exposed individuals (as of an enemy's forces) from a usually concealed point of vantage

were in the definition do you see the word distance. no where, so stop associating sniping and distance. And yes there is sniping in paintball just look at the definition.

[pr0kch0p]

pmgz! i r 13337 sn1pp3r to0!

i hav teh flatlien barel on my tipman m98! also i havae a big stcok so i can aim better, and a riffl scope so i can see yur fcae when i shoot yuo in the bals!. my guns louks just liek a real gun asnd it scars nwbies! it soo pwnz all teh peple with rally neci guns! i go to teh woods feld and tehn when the rfe bluws the wislle i just lei down leik a snipper with my guile suit! i am invisbiel peple cn@t even see me, because my camoflague is so god. then i jstu lok thruh my scope and i shot tehm in the balls and they dorp their angels and cockesrs and they brake becaus thay are crappy guns. then when teh round is ovar i walk up to them and say, maybe you should sell those pieazes of crap and geat a real gun, liek a m98!!!

hey budy! mayb we shuld liek talk and trade sstrategies! ok!?

[iwantamag]

i used to htink i could not psell! or ypte:laugh:


this not only is talking about porkchop eating a baby but blank too they both cant type.


by the way how do i change my sig?

[simon woodstock]

i've played at the jungle, i don't really like it that much, i prefer the Fair grounds, it's more speedball oriented. the jungle has like a 20 minute game limit and most go shorter. Here's what happenend when i went, most of the kids camp on the tape while my friend and i ran straight to the base, took the flag, ran back and never saw any1 except for 1 or 2 kids laying in the grass who we shot in the butt as we ran by with he flag. :D

i always want people on my team to come help with the intense shootouts, and help push, instead of sit on the boarder and eliminate maybe one or 2 people walking along the boundaries who wouldn't hang the flag anways.

i think sniping might exist in some very exclusive circumstances, like if you're playing a game that will last a number of hours and the "sniper" is situated ontop of a 20 foot cliff right next to the main path where the is a clear view of where the other team is walking by. but that doesn't happen very often.

the first time i played, thats what i thought paintball would be like, and i would finish the game w/ a full hopper and i would be ready to play the next, by the end of the day i had 3 eliminations and a full box of paint minus 200 rounds i used shooting at a bush i thought a person was behind.

now i use a hopper+ in a 10 minute game and i'm so out of breath and my adrenaline levels are so high i jump when i step on a paintball. furthermore i'll get more eliminations in one game than i did that first day.

that first day i was kinda disapointed but i've learned something every game i've even played, and the more i know about paintball the more i like it.

in conclusion, there is such a thing as a sniper, but i'd never wanna be one, this was not made to insult any one, just maybe to help some people expand their games like I did.

[iwantamag]

thank you carfreak for clearing up all this sniper stuff...well in that case i'm a sniper.
line?


PS how do i change my sig?

[pr0kch0p]

lol, speedball, lazy!!!

buywahahawhwahawhahaahahahah

thats hilarious.

[iwantamag]

so blake (post after this) you are saying your gonna umm...smash me with a umm...tre umm... e? :laugh: ::laugh: :laugh:

[blake_sw]

Originally posted by iwantamag
thank you carfreak for clearing up all this sniper stuff...well in that case i'm a sniper. all you speedball freaks get off your lazy *butt* and play some woods instead of sitting behind some dorito shaped thing filled with air.


Dude, your mom liked it.

Speedball...lazy...the words don't mix. So how about umm...I chop down some trees, and umm...kill you? Ok? ok.

[unknown]

look at the difference here.. here this loser with a gun that sux is bunkering a pansy. In the woods

[unknown]

while...
this guy is bravely bunkering that pole with his good fast gun! he is soo skilled! thats why speedballs better

[unknown]

evidence 2:
here is a dog. he is obviously a speedball player, note that he is hiding behind a bunker.. uhh.. yea and kicking ***. case closed, speedball rocks.

[pr0kch0p]

whenever i try to bunker poles i always get gogged D;

[FireViper]

These threads are pointless because both sides think that they are right and are not going to cheange there minds the fact is that In speedball sniping is not only nonexistent is just stupid to even try, but In scenarios and big games it pratical and don't say that sniping is for newbies cause I know some players who do it who have been playing longer than some people here have been alive and their good at it they don't camp and relocate after taking out some of the competition. many of them kickass at speeball too. Like I said before these sniping threads more than likely aren't going to change any minds.

oh unknown, what ever that guy was doing behind that pile of wood it wasn't sniping; it's camping and besides what they were playing looked more like recball or wooded speedball and we've established that even attempting that there is ridiculous.

[unknown]

lmao did you notice that i was, ooo 104.30% sarcastic?

[snipinhick]

lets face it!!!!!


you people that grew up with concrete buldings instead of trees where you lived just plain old SUCK in the woods. thats why you play speed ball and will continue to BIT*H about how lazy and ***** you have to be to play woods, BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE TO PLAY IN THE WOODS WITH PEOPLE THAT KNOW WHAT THE FLUCK THEY ARE DOING!!!!

all in all its the culture shock that makes you hate what your not used to ie: speedball players in the woods, and woods players on a speedball field. sooooooo


EVERYONE JUST SHUT THE FLUCK UP!!!!!!!!! QUIT YOUR GODDAMN-3RD-GRADE-YOU STOLE MY LUNCH MONEY- BITC*IN.

[iwantamag]

so unknown your saying that...speed ball players have no idea what to shoot and 1/2 of woods players are panzes?:laugh:

[iwantamag]

okay here is the point THIS IS NOT WOODS VS SPEED! it has to do with paintball snipers



the speed/woods thing is personal preference :)

[iwantamag]

Originally posted by blake_sw
i'm sorry iwantamag your right speed ball people are lazy woods is the best.


thanks for finally agreeing with me

[unknown]

Originally posted by iwantamag
so unknown your saying that...speed ball players have no idea what to shoot and 1/2 of woods players are panzes?:laugh:

something like that.

[DasBaldDog]

Hmmmm......those links are nothing but websites promoting merchandise. Now if YOU had alot of "sniper" equipment to sell, which side of the argument would YOU support? Those links are biased and not to be considered in the overall scheme. I am shutting this argument down because of 2 reasons. #1. The argument is bogus and nothing will ever be solved because both of the two groups are so short sighted and narrow minded that they will NEVER listen to logic or reasoning. #2. Well, because I am tired of hearing about it.


Sniping in it's pure and intended form DOES NOT exist in standard paintball. It can and DOES exist in scenario, big games and 24 hour + games. What most people that argue the point think about is a stealthy player who runs tape or is a back player.

A "SNiper" in it's standard form is someone who advances undetected into enemy territory and places well-aimed shots to destroy enemy communications, gather intel or eliminate enemy soldiers.

If you play me in hyperball, I KNOW where you are, IE you are NOT a sniper. If you sit in the back and hammer on your trigger, you are NOT making well-placed shots, IE you are NOT a sniper. If anyone wants to argue to issue can go find a wall and talks its bricks off.

If I am flaming, I apologize but I am sick of the issue and having known REAL, PROFESSIONAL MILITARY longrifles (aka snipers to you simpler folk), I have come to my well-thought out and reviewed decisions. Snipers DO NOT EXIST in hyperball, speedball, normal woodsball. They can exist in larger and longer games.