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Megilar
05-19-2003, 12:27 PM
Oh boy... I'm treading on thin ice here, but this thread deals with airsoft. for those of you who don't know what it is, it's pretty much the same as paintball, 'cept you use bb's, and the guns are exact replicas of reals guns (M16 A2, Uzi, etc...). Instead of using gas, they use batteries (some use gas, and others are pure spring powered). but anyway, I heard a story from a friend about a couple of airsofters going to a paintball field to airsoft. They, and a bunch of buddies, had an airsoft banner on their van to let other airsofters come there. They went out, had fun, and came back to find that their van was painted and deeply scratched. I was just a little curious as to what you people thought about that... and if you guys hated airsoft, or not, or whatever... just thought i'd post this and see what everybody thinks.

MuffinMan14
05-19-2003, 12:53 PM
theres already one like this....

something nasty
05-19-2003, 03:07 PM
I don't know a single tourney baller that likes mil-sim.. makes paintball look bad.

evilhomer
05-19-2003, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by something nasty
I don't know a single tourney baller that likes mil-sim.. makes paintball look bad.

wait, are you talking about paintball mil-sim or airsoft mil-sim?

Cadet2005
05-19-2003, 03:42 PM
I'll get flamed for this but:

If you watch a good speedball match, you pretty much are watching a simplified version of a SEAL Team Six Op, heck, even an urban combat op trained to the Rangers or SWAT/ERT teams...but hey, don't flame me, I am just pointing this out from observation.

something nasty
05-19-2003, 04:20 PM
Any mil-sim.

And Cadet if you want to go into that, so is a child playing hide and seek.

Cadet2005
05-19-2003, 04:41 PM
Where do you think sport derived from? Rugby was originally designed in the Middle Ages between rivaling manors as a way to indoctrinate them to the competition needed by the Lord to A) prevent them from revolting and B) in the event of war, have no problems going at one another...hey, I don't want to really get into it here since that is OT but if you would like to discuss it further, feel free to PM me.

midknight
05-19-2003, 05:03 PM
Speedball might indeed be a simplified form of CQB, but its a far cry from mil-sim. You go to your avgerage tournament on any level, and you probably won't (if ever) see any mil-sim people there. And I do think that mil-sim paintball and airsoft hurts the sport. Some people are trying to create the image of paintball as that of a true sport, and that's pretty hard when you've got poeple running around with their "commando" 98cs and then we've got those armotech guns, it never ends. And airsoft is even worse, because the guns are pretty much scale replicas, and it looks pretty bad to see a bunch of people running around in the woods with extremely realistic guns shooting full auto at one another.

Rancid Coleslaw
05-19-2003, 05:17 PM
I don't like the mil-slim stuff. Those armotechs are unnecessary unless its for police training or something. Saw a guy at the field a few weeks ago with one, it had the scope, wires and all kinds of crap on there. He paid around $400-500 for it when it's no better or probably even worse than most of the other markers. They even say on the site that they're m4 replicas have the same recoil as the real gun, now why would you want that?:rolleyes:
And what if, for some stupid reason, someone showed up at the field with a real gun. If everyone is running around with replicas of m4's and m16's you wouldnt even be able to tell. It's trouble waiting to happen. Plus, it just creates a war image for paintball that most of us try to avoid.
As for airsoft, it would be hard to take one of those things outside or even anywhere other than in a room with no windows without having the police called on you. If you want a real experience with firearms just join the army, not shoot bb guns.