Ghillie Suit

[cpcg32]

I am almost ready to start making a ghillie suit. I have looked at many websites and have done several searches and still have a few questions. What materia would be the best yarn, twine or burlap? I know burlap is the most common but how easy is it to shred? Also, should I cover the whole suit with one of these three materials? just the back? everthing but the lower legs? I will probably do everything but the stomach and the front of the legs but just wanted some info about it getting caught.

[shibby]

I don't know how to make them, but I think they are really cool! :D Good luck!

[Jaster]

burlap. cover the whole thing. Thinner in the chest and front of legs. Sometimes you might be sitting up to take your shot.

[-=ReD-hAzE=-]

oh dear...

[evilhomer]

*cough*n00b*cough*


Don't worry cp, you'll come out of the sniper stage soon enough.

[Meola]

Hey dont call him a noob, whether or not it is true doesnt matter, just because he likes to put some imagination into a game then let him. I have been paintballing for many a year and when I play a scenario I like to play the role of a sniper, but hell maybe that is the Military in my blood.

[evilhomer]

Originally posted by Meola
Hey dont call him a noob, whether or not it is true doesnt matter, just because he likes to put some imagination into a game then let him. I have been paintballing for many a year and when I play a scenario I like to play the role of a sniper, but hell maybe that is the Military in my blood.

right, the military is in your blood...:eyes:


he's in his sniper stage of n00bism, i'll let him run around in his camo netting.

[BravoLeader4]

If your playing woodball then its awesome to have a ghillie suit or some sort of bush or tree looking camo, the one my friend made has helped me out more than once

so back to the post, id use burlap. If you are allergic to ragweed and any type of dust then youll be sneezing the whole time if its made of twine, and i hear if you have like a ribbon shredder then its real easy to shread the burlap, im gonna be making one soon using as small of burlap weavin that i can find and im gonna leave the net detachable so i can take it off and still be able to wear my camo.

[Mr. Kitty]

I literally cringed when I saw this title. In PB2Extremes there was the ten most overused terms in paintball. # 1 was ghillie suit, because if you say it once, you're overusing it.

But Evilhomer you don't have to call him a n00b. newb would be more appropriate. I can't say I've ever worn an umm.... ghillie suit....but maybe it's fun. I can actually imagine if you're playing in the forest it would be cool to look like a bush or something. I don't know. As long as they're having fun let them do it. :)

[xLiLHockeyFreak]

I didn't have time to read the thread but, about ghillie suits, if you play in hot weather, personally I think you would die of heat.

[Hoplon]

Ghillie suits aren't legal at alot of feilds. When you shoot someone in one of those the paintball will do one of two things.
1) bounce off the padding the "leaves" create.
2)go though the leaves then brake. The leaves then cover the break up making it impossible for refs to see any breaks.


I make it a point to shoot people wearing those suits and not letting off the trigger until i hear them call themselves out. If it takes a hopper full of paint so be it. I can't see the breaks most of the time so what else can i do?

Your better off just wearing camo and laying low. I used to wear a blue jersey and cary a chrome mag and had no problems blending in the woods. Just stay low and be still.

[Jaster]

So....if you all have such a problem with gillie suits then why did you bother to come on in and post? :rolleyes: Just to call some rec playing kid a newb? Just to get your post count up maybe? You feel better now?

[Blacksheep]

Alright...

This post is very interesting.

Jaster, I'd like to know, what would you cover the front with burlap? Ghillie suits are made for crawling, not walking. The reason is burlap and other materials WILL tangle. And I'm sure with your wordly knowledge you know what that means.

Most people don't add natural camouflage...and those that do, do it poorly, putting branches on themselves while crawling. Where is the logic in that?

How about the fact that the colors aren't that good either? It usually runs too dark...if you can get into the shadows, it may work, but then again, it will do the same thing in my red JT Jeresy.

[Jaster]

A proper Ghillie suit covers the entire body from head to toe, front to back, and then some. Ghillie suits are made for camouflage in any position not just walking and crawling. The problem with that is if you are moving you can be seen and I don't care what you're wearing. They work best when sitting still. Like a military sniper waiting for hours for his shot. That doesn't work very well in paintball. (I'm not going to start a "sniper in paintball" thing) Yes the possibility of tangling is there (though I've never had that problem with any of mine) and yes I DO know what that means. Tangles create odd patterns/shapes. Odd shapes are seen easier because they will stand out because they don't "flow" with the natural surroundings. (key for a ghillie suit) You are very much correct, Blacksheep, that most homemade suits/natural camo are poor at best. The walking tree or it looks Chewbacca is coming to get you! They are not easy to make correctly. Again you are correct with colors (also key for a ghillie suit) being poor at best. You use the wrong shade of colors and you might as well wear a red JT jersey. You'll stand out just as much.
With all that said, a well made proper suit you could hide inches from someone and they won't know it. Can you make a proper suit? Good luck. I spent months on mine with the help from a few who KNOW what they're doing because they do it for a living.
I don't wear it very often. Honestly, it gets in the way, it very hard to tell if you've been hit, and it's hot as hell in the friggin thing. You want to try it good for you and good luck. I don't think anyone should be giving anyone grief over it.

[Hoplon]

Originally posted by Jaster
So....if you all have such a problem with gillie suits then why did you bother to come on in and post? :rolleyes: Just to call some rec playing kid a newb? Just to get your post count up maybe? You feel better now?

I came into this thread to talk about it because it is the topic this thread is about. Are Gillie suit owners the only ones entitled to an opinion on the subject?

I play rec quit a bit myself and i didn't come in here to call anyone a newb.

Yeah, i'm hoping someone will send my a pbreview tshirt. :rolleyes:

Not really. Do you? I bring up a valid point on the subject and you act like i'm being an *******.

[Maelstrom_01]

If you're gonna wear one, be careful not to catch on fire. Then again...

[133+ Player]

Gilly suit isn't for noob snipers. Its for newb *******es who want something to not show their hits.

[Jaster]

Hoplon you need to calm down before you give yourself an aneurysm. Did you come in and bash and name call? No you didn't. Did you come in and ask a reasonable question? Yes you did. So, with that said, why did you think I was talking to or ment you?
You ARE being an ......IMO. Maybe if you used some of YOUR "worldly knowledge"(as YOU put it) instead of worrying about mine you could have figured that out.
And YES I do!:D

To be fair I'll rephrase the question. If SOME of you........:rolleyes:

133 I disagree (to a point. I'm sure there are those who use them for that reason but not all). I wear one every now and then and I'm no newb. Simply put I don't cheat. Even in a suit you know if you've been hit. If they're doing in a suit odds are they would do it with out one. IMO it comes down to honest players and what they are wearing has nothing to do with it.

[Hoplon]

Originally posted by Jaster
why did you think I was talking to or ment you?
You ARE being an ......IMO.

So....if you all have such a problem with gillie suits...

Because you used the word "you" to address whoever you were trying to talk to. Sense i was the last person to post and the most openly against Gillie suits it made the most sense to assume that you were talking to me. If you weren't ragging on me than who were you after? If you weren't talking to me i apologize.



Maybe if you used some of YOUR "worldly knowledge"(as YOU put it)
When did i claim to have "worldly knowledge" ? Perhaps you were talking to someone else again? It's difficult to tell with you...

[soxX]

Cpcg just asked you guys a simple question. Whether you agree with his style of play or not is your personal business. But, he wants to play the game the way he wants to play it. If you find his method of play onorthodox, then don't respond to his thread. If you have an intelligent awnser then by all means post. But, I don't think Cpcg posted just to be insulted.

These are friendly forums guys, if you don't wanna have anyone smart *** your questions, then don't do it to anyone else's.

[Assass!n]

Rememeber the article on warpig about the guy who was wearing a ghille suit, was near a campfire, and some sparks drifted into his suit, setting it alight and giving him 2nd and 3rd degree burns over 80% of his body?

Make sure you have a layer or two of fire resistant material.

[Blacksheep]

I'm going to ask this politely:

Do you want an overall explanation and assessment on the ghillie suit and it's paintball uses?

If so, I'll be happy to provide, if not, I'll let this thread stand.

[133+ Player]

Originally posted by Jaster
133 I disagree (to a point. I'm sure there are those who use them for that reason but not all). I wear one every now and then and I'm no newb. Simply put I don't cheat. Even in a suit you know if you've been hit. If they're doing in a suit odds are they would do it with out one. IMO it comes down to honest players and what they are wearing has nothing to do with it.

Just a lil note. My name is 133+ meaning Elite (leet for short ^_^).

Anyways, back on topic. Gillhie suits suck, in every aspect. They have no place in paintball.

[Jaster]

Hoplon I said "you all" meaning all of you. Which I corrected to some of you to clear things up. So no I wasn't talking directly to you.

My mistake fot the worldly thing. Sorry. I was going to make a comment to blacksheep about his saying that to me and it went into the comment for you. My bad. Need sleep or more coffee.

Blacksheep, what did you mean by that anyway? :confused:

[shibby]

Ghillie suits aren't for n00bs. Just most n00bs wear them... Lol.

[Blacksheep]

Jaster, what I mean is that I will state some well-founded opinion and some facts about them, and some experiances with them.

[Hoplon]

Originally posted by Blacksheep
Jaster, what I mean is that I will state some well-founded opinion and some facts about them, and some experiances with them.

It's up to you if you. If you want to go for it. People who are considering getting/making Ghille suits will most likely wonder into this thread due to it's title and a couple of us have already stated our experience with them so i don't see why you shouldn't.

[Rancid Coleslaw]

I've seen a few ghillie suits at the field here. The thing i hate about them most of all is almost tripping over some guy laying there in the back "sniping":rolleyes:
And when people see a guy show up at the field in a ghillie suit, you hear a lot of giggling.
You'll relize there's no point in a ghillie suit pretty soon.

[Blacksheep]

Let's look at what is required to win woods ball:

Stealth (Camo, Concealment, Terrain, Noise Discipline)

Speed and Aggressive Attitude

Planning and Coordination (Teamwork)


Now, a ghillie suit does not lend itself to any of those applications fully. A ghillie suit is mere camouflage and from 50m away...a large piece of burlap sitting in the middle of the open with a barrel pointing out, maybe a few tree branches sticking out...I wonder?

The ghillie suits WILL tangle and catch the brush. There goes noise discipline. Moving concealment is not concealment and as we've stated a ghillie tangles. That's not good either! Terrain...maybe since you will crawl most of the time.

Speed and Aggressive Attitude...no, a ghillie suit is added weight, some weigh upwards of 20 pounds. That means you will become fatigued quickly which brings about laziness and mistakes. There goes your aggression right there.

Teamwork...how many of these said snipers actualyl carry 2-way radios or work as a team? How many again?

[Rancid Coleslaw]

Originally posted by Blacksheep
Teamwork...how many of these said snipers actualyl carry 2-way radios or work as a team? How many again?

0

Ah, the lone "snipers" of paintball :rolleyes:

[cocker kid 2k2]

Originally posted by shibby
Ghillie suits aren't for n00bs. Just most n00bs wear them... Lol.

Makes ya think don't it? :eyes:

[ariade]

Zero, eh? So I don't count??

You know, I think I've seen this argument about a million times elsewhere in this forum, only difference is that this time I'll give my two cents.

Play paintball exactly the way you want to...if this involves playing with a guillie suit - do it! If you want to snipe - do it! If you want to dress up in a clown suit and blow a horn yelling "SHOOT ME I LIKE TO BE BUNKERED" - do it! And if you want to play speedball - something I hate - do it, who cares if YOU don't want to play a certain way...certainly not I... just get whatever you want out of this game, and enjoy every second of it, and if someone's play style makes them easier to hit, so what? If it makes you look like an idiot, SO WHAT?! It's a game, remember?

[Blacksheep]

Why was this topic brought back up?

[ariade]

Because I felt like saying something about it.

[Blacksheep]

18 days later...

[slapcornpoopfac]

First off, a gillie suit is for a nub in teh woods, this is paintball not sneaking up on osama in the jungle...
2ndly, how are you supposed to know when you are hit with a gillie suit on? its like 10 pounds and you wouldnt really be able to feel half of the shots thru it.

[Woods Sniper]

Seems like more and more old topics are being brought back, now a days... We need to rape the cattle that's owned by the folk who bring these threads back to life. Who's with me?!

[slapcornpoopfac]

Me, but if your in with me you need to clear the name eh?:P

[radishboy]

this is all i can think of whenever i see one of those things.

[Woods Sniper]

Originally posted by slapcornpoopfac
Me, but if your in with me you need to clear the name eh?:P
That was really low.. yet funny...

[Superdesk2007]

I would use jute its more expensive, but it looks cooler. I'm making my own its something to do in your spare time.

[PMI_Guy]

Originally posted by evilhomer


right, the military is in your blood...:eyes:


he's in his sniper stage of n00bism, i'll let him run around in his camo netting.

i was only in the "sniper stage of n00bism" for about 2 weeks. Lucky i learned quick

[ariade]

I dunno, I just subscribe to the shocking philosophy that speedball isn't much fun and woodsball is the best, but more importantly, play the game however you want it, and don't take no guff from no one if they wanna mock you.

[slapcornpoopfac]

You havnt been playing very long eh?

[ariade]

Why would you think that? I've been playing 2 years, maybe not all that long, but long enough to know what I like. Quite frankly I don't give a damn if you want to insult me for liking what I like, I'm not trying to insult you, I'm just saying this is a game to be enjoyed how ever you want.

[5left]

lol.....just thought I would throw something in here....

I don't use a ghillie suit, but I do wear full camo, and my 2k2 cocker is also airbrushed camo for rec play....Except, when we do rec play, we don't go to one of those wimpy little fields that have all the branches cut down and the brush removed, we go straight into the woods and swamp areas...

I would bet all my paintball gear that if any of you came out and played woodsball with me, i would get you atleast a couple times from 10 yds away, and you would have no idea I was even there....

all you would hear is the cycling of the cocker....

You may not be able to snipe from 80 meters, but you can belly crawl, disapear in the brush, and await your victim.....which, If I remember correctly, is a way of sniping...

I laugh at the people who wear these overpriced pointless paintball jerseys (another thing to waste $200 on) and only play speedball every weekend....

Try to diversify, makes your game a whole lot better...

Woodsball and *sniping* helps on a speedball field...helps you learn how & when to move....

[The Sniper]

Ok one thing to point out, Jerseys cost around $30 and could some moderator please close this cause it'll be retarded to keep it cause people ar going to keep on flaming until the thread is 15 pages long.

[5left]

I think it is kind of rediculous that people 98% of the poeple in this forum claim to be "pro" paintball players, and read certain things, so they automatically flame...

Misconceptions...

Woodsball you can be a sniper
Ghillie suits work great if you sit back...(not great for moving but if you are protecting a flag, or something of the sort, then they work flawlessly)

Just because it is made for paintball, does not mean it will make you a better player...(i.e. spending tons of money on jerseys, pants, gearbags and so forth...I have always used a rubbermaid container, works better)

Just because it is not made for paintball does not mean it won't help....If you want camo, go hit a yard sale or an army-navy surplus store....

If you have to have it say Dye all over it, then throw a few stickers on it....

There is nothing wrong with having beautiful milling and anno jobs done on the gun...But that has nothing to do with how good you are..(besides I would rather not have it, if it knocked a couple hundred of the price)

The first thing to underrstand is, you may have played for 10 years, but once in a while the kid on his first day WILL hit you... It happens...

I could rant on and on...but it is always easy to pick out in threads who knows what they are talking about, and who doesn't....

Do what makes you happy...try it out, you can have success with it, and if it doesn't work then now you know....

[The Sniper]

Just to point out i wasn't flaming ,but was stating that a moderator should stop this thread because its so pointless. I mean if you believe there are snipers then be happy and nobody cares if you do. I'm tired of coming on General PB talk and seeing like 3 or 4 anti-sniper threads because its all so stupid. And it isn't really a good debate either its just flaming and crap.

[5left]

Originally posted by The Sniper
J I mean if you believe there are snipers then be happy


correct...so whats the point of poeple coming in for no reason and flaming?? Also, why are posting in here if you are tired of seeing it..you may not be flaming, but your just as much of a help to the thread.. also whats the point in closing the thread??Their are people in here that have answered his questions and given him some advice...Sure there is other crap but you often have to sift through pages of crap in here to find a post with some intelligence

sad, but true...

[ariade]

See, that's my point, I only reciently started posting here, but it seems all these pages are about is making fun of newbies, and groups of "pros" banding together to bash every style of play but the ones they like. 5Left you've made a very good point.

[monkeybacon00]

Originally posted by Assass!n
Rememeber the article on warpig about the guy who was wearing a ghille suit, was near a campfire, and some sparks drifted into his suit, setting it alight and giving him 2nd and 3rd degree burns over 80% of his body?

Make sure you have a layer or two of fire resistant material.

yea I heard about that, the fire was started by some hobos the night before.

and 5left, name one person here who claims to be a "pro" player? I dont think you quite realize what the pro or am lvl is like. 98% is quite a big margin considering maybe 60% or more of the people here dont even play tourneys. I know very well that I'm taking your statement pretty literally, but there are plenty of ppl on these boards who think they suck at paintball, but they still like it.

And no, playing woodsball didnt do **** for my game. I started playing in the woods, for like a year. Then went and played speedball and never looked back. And I am absolutely POSITIVE that if I had never stepped onto a woods field, and started off playing speedball, my game would be so much better. Woodsball didnt teach me when and how to move, it was the speedball that brought that out of me. After speedball, you cant keep me in the same bunker for more than 20 seconds unless you had every team member laying paint on me.

There are some 12 year olds at my field who have been playing for a year, and never touched a woods field. For their age, its amazing that these kids can ball with the rest of the players out there. I cant even imagine what they will play like at age 18 or so.

And I would love to see you fullfill your claim about nailing me from 10 yds numerous times. :laugh: Personally, I remember when playing in the woods and when anybody used a ghillie suit it didnt make a bit of a difference to me, I could still spot them out just as easily.

rant over

[Blacksheep]

Originally posted by 5left
lol.....just thought I would throw something in here....

I don't use a ghillie suit, but I do wear full camo, and my 2k2 cocker is also airbrushed camo for rec play....Except, when we do rec play, we don't go to one of those wimpy little fields that have all the branches cut down and the brush removed, we go straight into the woods and swamp areas...

I would bet all my paintball gear that if any of you came out and played woodsball with me, i would get you atleast a couple times from 10 yds away, and you would have no idea I was even there....

all you would hear is the cycling of the cocker....

You may not be able to snipe from 80 meters, but you can belly crawl, disapear in the brush, and await your victim.....which, If I remember correctly, is a way of sniping...

I laugh at the people who wear these overpriced pointless paintball jerseys (another thing to waste $200 on) and only play speedball every weekend....

Try to diversify, makes your game a whole lot better...

Woodsball and *sniping* helps on a speedball field...helps you learn how & when to move....

D-Day, Skirmish USA, I challenge (provided my achilles tendon is healed).

As per challenge courtesy, you set out the challenge, I set conditions, time, place.

Or, where do you live? We can probably find a scenario that iwll work for both of us.

[5left]

I would love to be able to go out there.....I'll try but doubt wife will let me... I know of some in Michigan, but I doubt you want to go that far...

Maybe we can figure it out....I live outside of Cleveland, Ohio
I might be down Nc way in september...


***
What i was refering to when I said pro players, is that everyone suddenly wants to sound 10 years old and call people *!*noobies*?*
c'mon, grow up a little...

***
You can't only play speedball and expect to go out and rule in the words...Same as the other way around...I play just about every format available, and I feel I can easily adapt from one to another and they both help you out....

It is so great the people that claim you can't *snipe* then also are the same people who get down on the guys who *spray and pray*

Woodsball can teach you how to move...It helps teach you how to use cover correctly, and also to maintian positions...Seems most speedball players either don't stay long enough at a bunker or stay way too long....
Woodsball can also help you identify targets alot better...

Speedball helps woods players alot also...Alot of woods players sit wayyyy too long and also don't ever learn to snapshoot correctly...It goes both ways....

[Blacksheep]

Cleveland?

Hmm...I am going to TWC V, be there.

I'll pm you, keep in touch.

[slapcornpoopfac]

Im not going to battle nubs, you'll learn.

[ariade]

What?

[Incube]

Originally posted by evilhomer


right, the military is in your blood...:eyes:


he's in his sniper stage of n00bism, i'll let him run around in his camo netting.
AHAHAHA...

The Millitary in his blood...

ROFL Yeah Snipers are wikkid...Cuz a ball that goes 60 feet and curves is uberaccurate...

Also this should be in the REC forums...wher eyou can breed your disguesting ideas with the sniper noobs over there...u filthy sniper noob

[ariade]

Ok, damn, wow, that argument was so convincing...geez, I'm sorry I even brought it up, your immense and amazing logic has shown me that new players have no place in paintball and that everyone should bow down to your style of play...

Geez man, how pathetic are you? I believe the term for people who act like you is "Trolling"... ie. "I think I'll start an argument because I only value my opinion and am so insecure with myself that I have to shoot everyone else's down..."

Go back to smoking in behind the school and playing with your xbox, and leave your 12 year old opinions somewhere else...

[Incube]

Originally posted by ariade
Ok, damn, wow, that argument was so convincing...geez, I'm sorry I even brought it up, your immense and amazing logic has shown me that new players have no place in paintball and that everyone should bow down to your style of play...

Geez man, how pathetic are you? I believe the term for people who act like you is "Trolling"... ie. "I think I'll start an argument because I only value my opinion and am so insecure with myself that I have to shoot everyone else's down..."

Go back to smoking in behind the school and playing with your xbox, and leave your 12 year old opinions somewhere else...
Xbox? I dont play that....Smoke? I dont do that? 12 yearold? add 5 more years....

Ummmmm and its true Snipering is dumb..who do you think you are he Jesus Chirst of plaintball."blah blah blah BE whatever play paintball" Wtf? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAH U make me laugh..go save the world...or something...And yes evrone should bow down to my style of play..Speed ball owns you...

[ariade]

No, I just know that the real thing behind paintball is the choice to play however you damn well want...too bad you're too young to have figured that out... and sorry about the age, I just assumed because you can't spell that you were 12, just how you assumed since I defend newbies that I'm one... which is more of a stretch...

[Incube]

Originally posted by ariade
No, I just know that the real thing behind paintball is the choice to play however you damn well want...too bad you're too young to have figured that out... and sorry about the age, I just assumed because you can't spell that you were 12, just how you assumed since I defend newbies that I'm one... which is more of a stretch...
LALALALALALALA.............

Is someone posting?

[ariade]

Owww...damnit what a horrible blow to my ego!! The little 'cocker kid just insulted me...

Oh wait, no he insulted himself...
Hey, guess who I'm not going to bother with anymore?


Anyway, I have nothing more to say, seeing as the logic I'm trying to convey is falling on deaf ears...

[Incube]

Originally posted by ariade
Owww...damnit what a horrible blow to my ego!! The little 'cocker kid just insulted me...

I dont have a cocker....?

You make many an assumption..your my kind of guy

[IromKnight]

Originally posted by Incube

LALALALALALALA.............

Is someone posting?
You remind me of a newb mall cop