The sudden push for a pump gun...

[Phaelon Veritas]

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that pumps are coming back in? I mean I know they have always been around but it seems that right before christmas I ran into and abundance of old pumps pgp's and cheap pump and could pick a host of them up for 40 dollars and now it seems pump are selling for way above normal and pgp's and p68 can't be had for under 3/4 the normal selling price of the gun if not more.... looks like scenario games are coming back to town eh? mean you see people trading tricked cockers for p68's and the like ....

[Not Too Shabby]

I've noticed that at my local field. Some of the 14-year old loudmouth Rec-ballers that I deal with on a weekly basis are starting to buy pumps. One guy even bought a used Kingman Hammer and tricked it out. He had a DYE Boomstick, a double trigger (only god knows why), and a lot more.

The next marker that I buy will probably be a cheap pump. I want to see how well I can get it to perform.

This phenomenon is probably just a fad. I hope that it sticks around for a while though.

[Dräko]

Ive been thinking the same thing. Ive been looking at tracers lately and other pump guns. I think they have a kooler feel.

[rwillia]

I'm selling my Automag to buy a Phantom and some various upgrades. My friends think I'm stupid but they are just ignorant.

[july_favre]

I have a phantom on the way also. I think it has to do with the planets in alignment.

[Paintball Monkey]

I'm way ahead of yah... I have had a pump for several years and still use it... good ole P68

[PBSouLjAh]

weird...... im thinkin of buyin myself a nice cocker or an electro!

[blades of ice]

me too i want to buy a old skool phantom for $225 canadian and when i mean old skool i mean barrel is not replaceable like 10-15 years old but its in good shape what do you think?

[MuckRaker]

Originally posted by PBSouLjAh
weird...... im thinkin of buyin myself a nice cocker or an electro!
:D
I think we're alone in the crowd here PB ... A nice High End Semi ... But I must admit, the new Phantoms look really nice.

[Counterfeit]

When I have some extra chash i'll probably be buying a PGP. Eventually I'd like to own a nice red stock class Phantom.

[july_favre]

Thats what I have on the way. stock class with quick change, t stock, 3.5 with on/off, all in red with the clear acrylic set up!! Suppose to come tomorrow. I cant wait.

[Counterfeit]

Where did you buy yours from and how much did it cost? I am wondering where the cheapest is.

[july_favre]

Im a dealer so I got one wholesale with my order;). Maybe I can give you a good price once I figure out how much it costs me wholesale.

[Counterfeit]

That would be sweet. I don't have the money now but when I do i'll contact ya.

[DamnRock]

ok, other than look/feel and nostalgia, why in the world would you want a pump gun?

I can't imagine it being easier to use...or more accurate...so, what is it? I have never used one so I'm not familiar with the design/use of them.

[Counterfeit]

Are you serious??

Man what ever happend. When I first started playing most newbies had pumps and renters were mostly pumps.

Whoa, that was strange, I just had a "back in my day" moment :)

[Phaelon Veritas]

Ya know the best thing I like about pumps is for someone who is a tinkerer and like to make things himself and just all around tinker with guns they are not tempermental and if you pick up a cheap pump for like 40-50 bucks if you screw it up oh well there goes 40-50 bucks especially if you find one that is all broken down and you pick it up for 15 bucks.... hell you turn it around and it looks like a jem and someone is ready to buy it for 60 or 70 or even better in some cases.... but it's great fun I just want to get another to fully customize and do it all up right and keep it for myself this time though but I want to find practically a junker so I can totally restore it and customize it the way I want... and this is what I see in pumps besides the fact that they are pretty accurate stock even with most of the el cheapos...

[Mission540]

I had a pump once. NEVER again. Pumps just can't compete with the firepower semi's offer.

[Phaelon Veritas]

yes like every gun a pump has it's place and it's not in a speed ball arena or the likes however in a big scenario and the likes of a 24 hour game a pump gun in the right place can leave a devastating trail of destruction lets face it, it would take someone real brave or real stupid to pose his/her pump against any gun with a high rof in a speedball arena .... but again it's a matter of the place you don't bring a knife to a gun fight..... but that doesn't make a knife any less competent or lethal right?

[SmartBall]

I'm thinking o buying my self a talon with constant air kit, then i'll get an adjustable bull dog system to power that baby. Maybe i'll even get a verticle feed job and electro trigger job done to it, and a revvie for those tense moments! Lets see that would be about 500 in upgrades and a 30 gun, is that right?
No J/K ;)
But i am thinkin of gettin a phantom or a tracer(sp?). Pump guns are sweet for scenerio games. The reason most people sugest that a pump is more accurate is because every time you fire it, you only can fire one shot, not like 5 in a row. That one shot doesn't kick as much, and for only one shot, there is no drop off, but in 5 shots in one second, you might get a little drop off that effects the accuracy, consistancy, blah, and blah. That might be the reason they seem more accurate, but here is a mystery: An autococker is basically a pump gun with an automated cocking system (hence autocoker), or the front pnuematics. Why is the autococker so accurate though? Because it is really just a pump gun, that automatically pumps itself? Then if the autococker is so accurate, but is really an autococking pump gun, then are pump guns really more accurate?

[Phaelon Veritas]

hmmm well hypothetically speaking that was still a pathetic post.... ;)

[TLplus84]

I had a pump once. NEVER again. Pumps just can't compete with the firepower semi's offer.
when you have TRUE skill, you don't need firepower. It takes one ball to get someone out. :D

[Litespeed]

One reason i want to get a pump gun is when i was a chillin we all had pumps, and you had to rely on that one shot. I still play similar today even with a semi. Most of my friends will shot 1000-1500+ pb's in a day. The most i've ever shot out of my M98 in a day is 700, and i take out as many if not more every time out there. The amount you shoot is nothing compared to the quality of the shot. I want to get a pump and take it out against my semi friends and show them once in for all skill pinnacles rate of fire.

[Not Too Shabby]

I agree. I limit myself to one bag of paint (500 rounds) per day. I play rec-ball so I don't really need to dump paint constantly. The guys who I play with are extremely wasteful with their ammo and will shoot 1000-1500 rounds in the same period of time. I have a tricked out spyder with a J&J ceramic that is pretty accurate, but I would love to get a good 'ol pump. I compete with myself weekely to see if I can beat my previous Paint:Kills ratio.

Pumps will save you a ton of money in paintballs.

[Mission540]

TL, your definitly right. It does take skill and history has proven that. The tale of SGT York is a prime example.

[july_favre]

Yeah the guys that just spray and pray dont show any skill. I once watched a guy go through a hopper and 4 140 round tubes all in the same bunker. Who know how much he shot when he was somewhere else!! He got 2 people out so thats almost 400 rounds just to get one elimination.

But more impotantly, I JUST GOT MY PHANTOM AND IS IS SO SWEET. The ano is a little darker than expected but it still looks super nice. I was amazed at how accurate it was also. 20 yards away I had about 10 rounds thats were all on top of eachother. I knew that they were more accurate but I never expected a paint gun to be that accurate. I will get some pics up tonight or tomorrow.

[Counterfeit]

Originally posted by SmartBall
I'm thinking o buying my self a talon with constant air kit, then i'll get an adjustable bull dog system to power that baby. Maybe i'll even get a verticle feed job and electro trigger job done to it, and a revvie for those tense moments! Lets see that would be about 500 in upgrades and a 30 gun, is that right?
No J/K ;)
But i am thinkin of gettin a phantom or a tracer(sp?). Pump guns are sweet for scenerio games. The reason most people sugest that a pump is more accurate is because every time you fire it, you only can fire one shot, not like 5 in a row. That one shot doesn't kick as much, and for only one shot, there is no drop off, but in 5 shots in one second, you might get a little drop off that effects the accuracy, consistancy, blah, and blah. That might be the reason they seem more accurate, but here is a mystery: An autococker is basically a pump gun with an automated cocking system (hence autocoker), or the front pnuematics. Why is the autococker so accurate though? Because it is really just a pump gun, that automatically pumps itself? Then if the autococker is so accurate, but is really an autococking pump gun, then are pump guns really more accurate?

Autocockers and pumps are no more accurate than any other gun. Any one who says different oviousely does not know their a$$ from there .... anyways. The only factor that will make the gun more accurate is your aim and the paint/barrel match.

[Phaelon Veritas]

I agree July I had a cheap maverick which was run down and I restored the gun and threw a little tasco 4x scope on it and man talk about impressive from 25 yards away we were taking shots at a can and hitting it with a fair amount of ease...... I was definately impressed

[SmartBall]

I was just using the autococker as an example, i wasn't trying to start another accuracy thread. Chill. But your all right, and as it's always said (and perhaps too oftenly) "It's not the gun, it's the guy with the gun". Anyways...
Does anyone here have a pump that they run on N2? How do they like it? i thought that that might be a cool thing to consider. :p

[Watupi]

Thats why I love my autococker. I can turn it into a pump in a matter of minutes.

[PBSouLjAh]

well.....the thing is....autocockers and pumps and other closed bolt guns. they mite not be more accurate...but there is better consistancy. closed bolt guns have the ball already in the barrel before the air is released..unlike open bolts...where the air is realeased as the ball is pushed into the barrel. that means the air can have its full potential on the ball, and the ball isnt moving when the air is released. im not sayin it is more accurate...just more efficient and consistent.

[PBSouLjAh]

also sometimes u are required to use more paint a day. say some people are trying to flank you...and they are running at you..and they are shootin at u..and what do you do?stand there and pick them off one by one...pump by pump? i mean....yea i dont waste as much paint as dat guy u talked about...but...i use about 1500-2000 rounds a day.back players need a lot of paint to cover the front players and to keep the opposing team in their bunkers and back. of course u dont need to be wasteful....but desperate times call for desperate measures....