Impulse vs. Cocker

[MrBo]

Alright, I did a search and came up with too many, and didnt have time to look at all. I have shot both a stock impulse and an Autococker. I like the feel of both, my only thing was the cocker felt a wee bit short. Other than that, I liked both. Of course i loved the rof of the Impulse, but something about the Autococker keeps me wondering about it. Whichever I get, I will be keeping for some time. If possible I will be getting into tournaments, and probably play back or middle. Now for that which would be the best? I know Impulse will have the rof at first, but would upgrading the Autococker over time prove to be better?

If i get an Imp, it will be a Stock with Vert. MaxFlo and tapeworm from EPBO. I will also get either a werm undertow or the ratified kit(minus the valve) or should I get the one w/ valve? If i got the Autococker, I would get an 03 Vertical from the local store and go through them with upgrades.
Thanks for any input, I am just torn between the two :). Yet, I am leaning toward the Impulse a little more. I wont put a poll up so I can get real responses and not just a quick vote.

[TheGreatEgo]

i went through the same problem, but im getting a cocker, because i just want a cocker, if you don't wanna have to upgrade alot get a rjr.

[straptrams]

I would say Impulse...personally, I just think Autocockers are a waste of money. I mean, people think they are so good, why? Just because it has it's own method of cocking-back? With an Impulse you got high ROF, no kick, great consistency, lower maintenence then a Cocker, reliability and mucho more. I think Autocockers are a waste of money (except for E-Blades)...this is just me though. :|

[i like tictacs]

we all know my stance on this...:rolleyes:


besides, this thread has been brought up about, well, alot.


here (http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=103241&highlight=impulse+vs+autococker)

here also (http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=99982&highlight=impulse+vs+autococker)

again... (http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65669&highlight=impulse+vs+autococker)

and theres more, but you get the point.

[Incube]

....Impys are way better IMO...I dont like cockers anyway they are way over rated. They are High matnance and dont come near to the speed of most guns in its super over expensive price range.

[i like tictacs]

incube....



right click > save target as...

http://www.apocalypsepaintball.com/eblade.avi


slow?

[taso_winforce]

You have to spend $350(2k3 cocker) plus another $400 to make it fast.

[5left]

imps are kinda junky stock....

they are like cockers in that both are very upgradeable...but in my mind, you got a ways to go to make an imp competitive...

[Blacksheep]

So you spend $400.00 on an Imp, $100.00 on an Eye, $150.00 on an I-Frame, and another $100.00 for a Respirator? MUCH better deal, right?

[taso_winforce]

Its the same way with a cocker.... Its not like they are God like right out of the box.

[i like tictacs]

My 1350 dollar cocker was god-like out of the box...

[midknight]

Originally posted by Blacksheep
So you spend $400.00 on an Imp, $100.00 on an Eye, $150.00 on an I-Frame, and another $100.00 for a Respirator? MUCH better deal, right?
You spend $450 on a college pack imp, $100 on a WAS board, and it'll wok great.

[taso_winforce]

Originally posted by i like tictacs
My 1350 dollar cocker was god-like out of the box... well there you go. you spent $1350 on it. It better be god like. If you buy an impulse for $1350(if there even is one that costs that much) then it would be god like too.

[i like tictacs]

An impulse, is an impulse, is an impulse...


It would still have the same board and solenoid issues a 350 dollar impulse would have...

[taso_winforce]

what are these issues?

[Incube]

Originally posted by i like tictacs
incube....



right click > save target as...

http://www.apocalypsepaintball.com/eblade.avi


slow?
I guess you didnt see where i siad Price Range..Eblades are fast..if u wanna pay 600 bucks extra

[taso_winforce]

they were only shooting 12/13 bps in that video if that.

[Incube]

Originally posted by taso_winforce
they were only shooting 12/13 bps in that video if that.
I was just about to post the same thing...
Besides....Imps can go 15 and most guns cna only fire 15 bps Including the eblade...So tecnaclly An Electro is an Electro is an electro...

Cockers are not.........With the Accpetion of the Eblade..which is...

[i like tictacs]

Note the hopper, listen when I speak in the video. A reloader isn't capable of more then 13 bps at the most, if that...

And i threw a y-board egg on and outshot it, you could clearly hear the gaps from the eye...

[taso_winforce]

I know but you were trying to make it sound like they were shooting really fast. maybe the egg was messed up. were you over a chrono to see how fast you were shooting?

[Incube]

Originally posted by i like tictacs
Note the hopper, listen when I speak in the video. A reloader isn't capable of more then 13 bps at the most, if that...

And i threw a y-board egg on and outshot it, you could clearly hear the gaps from the eye...
It probly out shot at 15 bps also I have seen impys out shoot egg 2s? so whast the point...

Basicly Tic-tacs u are just coming in to brag about your ebalde..he said AUTOCOCKER...no Ebladecocker....

He didnt evne mention an eblade at all. And Impys are better than Cockers...No one said Eblades...? So basicly you just are here to aruge your greatness of your gun, sure its great but this thread asked nothing on the eblde which sint even an autocoker...which he was wondering about...:confused:

[i like tictacs]

Well you said cockers are slow...so i had to get you to hush and go back to your corner.


I don't think a slider or hinged cocker will shoot 13bps anytime soon...

[Incube]

Originally posted by i like tictacs
Well you said cockers are slow...so i had to get you to hush and go back to your corner.


I don't think a slider or hinged cocker will shoot 13bps anytime soon...
Cockers are slow...?! Unless you put and eblade on them...But cockers are slow...so basicly...?

[i like tictacs]

First off it is annoying to read any of your posts with the hideous grammar, so if you want to prove a point do so intelligently. That last post of yours...made no sense....

[Incube]

Yes it made sense.

I said Cockers are slow unless you put a eblade on them. But cockers with out ebaldes are slow...if you dont get it then .....i donno what to tell you

[i like tictacs]

That wasn't so hard now, was it?

[taso_winforce]

I didn't get your last post either until you just now said what you meant.

[pEnNyWiSdOm225]

Originally posted by taso_winforce
If you buy an impulse for $1350(if there even is one that costs that much) then it would be god like too.


maybe an Adreniline Impulse with some upgrades and a nice tank.
Or a Strange Impulse

[Blacksheep]

SM Impulses don't have very good trigger pulls in my opinion, for $1350.00, you could get a Strange and an I-Frame though which as a nice pull.

[Zophiel]

It's easy to reach 10bps with a hinge trigger on an Autococker. Even with a completely stock 2k3 Cocker. Do you really need more than that?

But I do think that, stock for stock, an Impy is a better deal. Better barrel, much better regulator, faster speed. That's all you need to know.

[5left]

better reg and better barrel I agree...

but a stock impy trigger should be on an $80 gun, not a $400 gun...

The reg is the best part of the imp, other then that, it all needs upgraded...

You can get a cocker up to 10bps and an imp does around 13, so I don't think speed is really much of an issue here...

if you try an imp, you'll probably agree that the trigger feels like absolute junk...I bought an imp and had to drop about $600 in it till I got it semi close to where I want it to be...

stock cockers I believe are much nicer out of the box then an imp...but if you want to upgrade, and you love electros, then an imp is perfect.....

[i like tictacs]

Originally posted by Zophiel
It's easy to reach 10bps with a hinge trigger on an Autococker. Do you really need more than that?



Yep.

[Zujin]

i pulled about 8-9 bps on a stock gen-x 3today (it doesn't have a hinge) but personally i still think i would go with the impulse. The Impy comes with one of the greatest regs alrady and bottomline. I got mine fully upgraded (in sig) with a new designz trigger for 530. And that is with a Vert. reg. Personally i think impys are a little better deal.

[Blacksheep]

Stock, I think an Autococker will get beat by an Impulse in just about everything except for reliability (sorry, but electronics increase the chance of failure that you cannot fix, if an Autococker slips outta time, you can retime it in a timely manner).

But I'd honestly rank an Autococker above an Impulse when tricked to the max...but this again, is my personal preferance.

[Zophiel]

I don't think that guns that cost over $1000 will be very different from one another in anything except weight and balance. Well, except, of course, for the Mag with level 10, and, naturally, the Cocker with its superior closed-bolt accuracy. :dodgy: :D

[Blacksheep]

Or, how about a Phantom because it has less moving parts, lol? (While true for firearms that have 70,000+psi stressing their breech, 850psi or less won't mean much).

[LAMANTEthePBguy]

i just have one question

In one of tic- tacs links a couple people said that more back players use cockers and more front players use impulses. If an impulse fires faster, then why dont more back players use impulses? dont they usualy need to lay down more paint?

[i like tictacs]

people saying a certain gun for a certain position...are nubs...

[Blacksheep]

Autocockers have so much more range and accuracy *rolles eyes*

[LAMANTEthePBguy]

they werent saying that a cocker is a back player gun just that more back players tend to use cockers

[MrBo]

Thanks for all replies :). I think I will go with the Impulse, and get the ratified kit and nd blade trigger on it.

[heyheyhey]

imp

no contest

(yes, ive owned two cockers, and currently have a nasty imp)

[cocker kid 2k2]

Originally posted by heyheyhey
imp

no contest

(yes, ive owned two cockers, and currently have a nasty imp)

If your going to keep the cocker mechanical, impulse. If you plan on eblading the cocker, cocker.

I've owned 2 cockers and 2 Impulses. (Take that Hey3;) )

[Shoe3]

Read my post at the bottom of the page

http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=145012&perpage=20&pagenumber=2