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arson51
06-15-2003, 05:29 PM
if you own a dye titanium boom stick, and play in dark conditions whether it be indoor or night play. i have to ask you a big question. you may look at me funny and say im mad.

but i swear when you fire a titanium boom stick in the dark you can see sparks chase the paintball out of the barrel.... yes its crazy sounding, but i saw it couldnt believe it. the guy that owned it says its crazy aswell.

so if you own one shoot it in the dark and tell me if you see sparks. if you have already seen sparsk too post aswell!

i think it happnes when the paintball takes up a few molecules of titanium, and when those molecules brush up against the alluminum combined with the friction of the paintball, a volatal reaction is formed from the allumium and titanium possibly somthing else, and than you see sparks durring the reaction!

that is my theory to explain it!

X_Brolly_X
06-16-2003, 06:59 AM
I have heard of it happening before... It can happen if a few molecuels of sand or metal shavings stick to the paintball before it is fired. I dont know if it happens with other barrels though..

Kocker141
06-16-2003, 05:01 PM
Kinda gives a whole new meaning to the word "Boomstick" don't ya think? :D But I'd say its possible, just don't shoot your gun after eating certain...foods. BOOM!

IratePirate
06-16-2003, 05:35 PM
Dude pour some lighter fluid on the tip of the barrel. That will confirm or deny any suspicions.

snipers002
06-17-2003, 06:34 PM
this happens with the titanium longbow too

X_Brolly_X
06-17-2003, 06:41 PM
There was a thread on pbn a long time ago about some guy who hooked up propane to his spyder and used a Ti Boomstick to see if he could make it a flame thrower. I dont think any of it was true, but he said the expansion chamber blew up, and he had to spend a while in a hospital for burns.

arson51
06-17-2003, 08:11 PM
kick ***! i think its the titanium reacting with alluminum, i heard the 2 have a hard time in contact with eachother. and i bet it gets even more violent when friction is applied

Twitch
04-25-2004, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by arson51
if you own a dye titanium boom stick, and play in dark conditions whether it be indoor or night play. i have to ask you a big question. you may look at me funny and say im mad.

but i swear when you fire a titanium boom stick in the dark you can see sparks chase the paintball out of the barrel.... yes its crazy sounding, but i saw it couldnt believe it. the guy that owned it says its crazy aswell.

so if you own one shoot it in the dark and tell me if you see sparks. if you have already seen sparsk too post aswell!

i think it happnes when the paintball takes up a few molecules of titanium, and when those molecules brush up against the alluminum combined with the friction of the paintball, a volatal reaction is formed from the allumium and titanium possibly somthing else, and than you see sparks durring the reaction!

that is my theory to explain it!

I have a Ti Boomstick & it does spark - it's kinda cool. It's merely a static charge built up as the balls move rapidly through the barrel. Paintbals (or thier shells) are not hard enough to scrape any bits of titanium from the inside of the back.

nerdcore
04-26-2004, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by Twitch
I have a Ti Boomstick & it does spark - it's kinda cool. It's merely a static charge built up as the balls move rapidly through the barrel. Paintbals (or thier shells) are not hard enough to scrape any bits of titanium from the inside of the back. static electricity is cool. ima go drag my feet across the carpet & touch people now :badboy:

Calebd2
04-26-2004, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by X_Brolly_X
There was a thread on pbn a long time ago about some guy who hooked up propane to his spyder and used a Ti Boomstick to see if he could make it a flame thrower. I dont think any of it was true, but he said the expansion chamber blew up, and he had to spend a while in a hospital for burns.

Wasn't there a guy on the kingmanusa forum who dipped his balls or barrel in gasoline to and it blew up his gun? Don't remember if it ended up being a joke or not...

Twitch
04-26-2004, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Calebd2


Wasn't there a guy on the kingmanusa forum who dipped his balls or barrel in gasoline to and it blew up his gun? Don't remember if it ended up being a joke or not...

:eyes: Yeah uh, no, most propane tanks do not have sufficent pressure to operate a marker - your normal gas grill propane tanks are at about 30 psi - "high pressure" propane tanks (the kind that fit on flatbeds) are about 300 psi.

Ever dip a paintball in gasoline - you get mush - gasoline will eath through paintballs, orings, hoppers. it's a little bit corrosive.

But Ti boomsticks do spark - yay static electricity! excuse me I'm gonna go stick balloons to a wall! :D

Calebd2
04-26-2004, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Twitch


:eyes: Yeah uh, no, most propane tanks do not have sufficent pressure to operate a marker - your normal gas grill propane tanks are at about 30 psi - "high pressure" propane tanks (the kind that fit on flatbeds) are about 300 psi.

Ever dip a paintball in gasoline - you get mush - gasoline will eath through paintballs, orings, hoppers. it's a little bit corrosive.

But Ti boomsticks do spark - yay static electricity! excuse me I'm gonna go stick balloons to a wall! :D

I believe he said he was running his marker on co2/nitro and dipped his boomy in gasoline. Thus, when the ball was shot thru the boomstick it would ignite because of the sparks.

Again, this was awhile ago and I don't remember if it ended up that he was joking or not.

AR55 MtM
04-26-2004, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by Calebd2


I believe he said he was running his marker on co2/nitro and dipped his boomy in gasoline. Thus, when the ball was shot thru the boomstick it would ignite because of the sparks.

Again, this was awhile ago and I don't remember if it ended up that he was joking or not.
you know the guy who did it or just heard a story sounds pretty fake if you ask me.

arson51
04-26-2004, 09:40 PM
static electricity? if so y dont other barrels do that?

Firebladz
04-26-2004, 11:01 PM
This is quite possible and I'll tell you what happened to me...

I was at the driving range "golf" and I have a titanium headed driver well I missed the ball and sliced it off the back of the heel of the driver and a huge spark shot off my driver...

but nobody would believe me, but I know what I saw and I do have a witness...

I believe it had something more to do with friction off of the titanium...

by the way I am also a biker "crotch rockets" and we have kneepucks made out of titanium or with titanium impregnated into them so when you lean over in corners they shoot off sparks...
makes for a nice show however the reason they use titanium is because they produce more sparks than other metals...

DaSpEcSter
04-27-2004, 04:43 AM
I've seen sparks come out a barrel..
I dunno what kind it was. But the guy chrono'd and a couple sparks flew....Well after I saw that, I made sure I was on his team. It might have been a titanium longbow though..it kinda looked like one.

arson51
04-29-2004, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by Firebladz
This is quite possible and I'll tell you what happened to me...

I was at the driving range "golf" and I have a titanium headed driver well I missed the ball and sliced it off the back of the heel of the driver and a huge spark shot off my driver...

but nobody would believe me, but I know what I saw and I do have a witness...

I believe it had something more to do with friction off of the titanium...

by the way I am also a biker "crotch rockets" and we have kneepucks made out of titanium or with titanium impregnated into them so when you lean over in corners they shoot off sparks...
makes for a nice show however the reason they use titanium is because they produce more sparks than other metals...
i totaly agree w/ u.. i remember seeing a snow board that created sparks from sliding on rails because it had titanium edges. static electricity wouldn't create sparks that flare red like fire and trail a long with the paintball or snow board, or become so intense they are visible in full day.
twitch where did you get your static theory?

Twitch
04-29-2004, 07:35 AM
Originally posted by arson51

i totaly agree w/ u.. i remember seeing a snow board that created sparks from sliding on rails because it had titanium edges. static electricity wouldn't create sparks that flare red like fire and trail a long with the paintball or snow board, or become so intense they are visible in full day.
twitch where did you get your static theory?

Physics - Due to the density of the paintball, and the density of Titanium, I do not believe it possible for a plastic or gelatin shell to scratch titanium. Especially enough to create a spark.

The spark is white/blue and cannot be seen unless under low light conditions - shaded woods - indoors etc.

I'm sure that titanium will spark when dragged across other metals or concrete / asphalt. (Especially concrete due to its density)

However, I don't believe that it is possible for a paint ball to scrape off little bits of the titanium, especially enough of a quantity to produce a visible spark. If that were the case we'd be hearing stories of players who've worn through thier titanium barrels.

The barrel does not spark every time you pull the trigger, if metal were being removed by a paintball, this would be more likely to happen. If a paintball were able to scrape titanium, then it would do the same thing with aluminium & steel, as titanium has a higher density than both metals.

The barrel instead sparks occasionally when paint is shot through the barrel in rapid succession. The spark produced is most likely a discharge of built up static electricity.

I have never seen my barrel spark after a ball break, that probably ruins the conductive properties of the barrel.

I am by no means a scientist - I took chemistry & physics in college, nor am I interested enough to explore the conductive properties of titanium vs aluminium.

But that's my theory.

arson51
04-29-2004, 01:05 PM
ill hit both long bow and dye w/ that question.

blkbelt
04-29-2004, 01:13 PM
its not sparks... what you are seing is static electricity...

arson51
04-30-2004, 05:09 AM
"Q&L Info" <qlinfo@titaniumpaintball.com

Hello,

The best explanation that I can give is this. Titanium is a flammable metal. The paintball sometimes have a dust or dirt on them. The dirt and dust is, while small, very hard. When fired it reacts with the metal and causes sparks, much like a flint.



Thank You

Sam Lotfy"

static? ha! i was right.. now all i need is 200 for a titanium barrel of my own.

ta2maki
05-05-2004, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by blkbelt
its not sparks... what you are seing is static electricity...

you can't see static electricity, you see the sparks emitted by the static disgharge.



and twitch, it's hardness not density. density is the ratio to weight to volume. density of steel>>>density of titanium

arson51
05-05-2004, 01:54 PM
uh did you not believe my previous post?