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sIc
06-18-2003, 09:37 AM
Ok, now i know that anti siphon isnt as good for your gun as n2, but is it fine to use it with an impulse. The guy as my local feild is tellin me i should basically never use co2 with a pulse. So will it work fine on my gun, just not as... well good?

BaLLeRx10
06-18-2003, 09:44 AM
do a search :yell:

sIc
06-18-2003, 09:47 AM
Though that was probably a good idea......Nice attempt to get your post count up.:rolleyes:

h0p
06-18-2003, 09:51 AM
should work fine :rolleyes: just scroll down there are like 23807423 threads. BaLLeRx10 you coulda just gave him the answer

paintballer42o
06-18-2003, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by sIc
Though that was probably a good idea......Nice attempt to get your post count up.:rolleyes:
LoL...
Anyway...
i wouldnt suggest using Co2 in your impy. Does it have a regulator? If it does, Co2 would be worse for the gun. It might blow the reg. at anytime without warning, which costs about 150 bux to fix. I would definetally reccomend N2. I wouldnt risk using Co2.
If you dont have a reg, you could freeze up the electronics and the anti-syphon has a 7/8 chance of working.
Think of this:
there is a 30 ton brick wall over a door. If you make it out, lets see...youll get a billion dollars. But you gotta spin a wheel. It is numbered 1-8. If you land on any of the 1-7 #'s, you get out free and with your life. If you get the 8 however...your gone. You cant dodge it.
So would you take a risk like that? i sure wouldnt, just save up for a nitro tank...youll be happy with the results.

BaLLeRx10
06-18-2003, 09:55 AM
i have allready gave him hte answer. he is on my Pb team,and hes like my best friend . but he just doesnt listen to me.... Its sad :bawling:

paintballer42o
06-18-2003, 10:03 AM
And what did you say to him:P

sIc
06-18-2003, 10:06 AM
He (unlike you) thinks c02 is fine. Which is why i asked, i didnt think just his opinions was good enough, i wanted to knwo what you guys think.

BaLLeRx10
06-18-2003, 10:06 AM
that co2 is fine until u can afford n2.i ran c02 on mine for a few months. and then the little freak trys to get me to let him use my 68/3k and me to use c02. its very sad :paranoid:

sIc
06-18-2003, 10:08 AM
hey, he wanted to use my blade trigger, so that was the deal. His 68 3k and stock trigger for anti siph and blade.

Oh well, enough of this, we sound like little girls.:P

paintballer42o
06-18-2003, 10:11 AM
Co2 = no. Who you gonna believe, a smart poster like me or some old crusty teammate:D :laugh:
but seriously, look at what i said. It should be enough proof for yoou.

sIc
06-18-2003, 10:16 AM
Im waitin for more people to reply, so i have more to go by.

heyheyhey
06-18-2003, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by paintballer42o

LoL...
Anyway...
i wouldnt suggest using Co2 in your impy. Does it have a regulator? If it does, Co2 would be worse for the gun. It might blow the reg. at anytime without warning, which costs about 150 bux to fix. I would definetally reccomend N2. I wouldnt risk using Co2.
If you dont have a reg, you could freeze up the electronics and the anti-syphon has a 7/8 chance of working.
Think of this:
there is a 30 ton brick wall over a door. If you make it out, lets see...youll get a billion dollars. But you gotta spin a wheel. It is numbered 1-8. If you land on any of the 1-7 #'s, you get out free and with your life. If you get the 8 however...your gone. You cant dodge it.
So would you take a risk like that? i sure wouldnt, just save up for a nitro tank...youll be happy with the results.

uhhh.. WTF... do you even have an imp? shockers ad imps were MADE to run on regular co2. Imps have to have regs... they run at 180 psi, and the maflo is MADE for co2. you obviously have no clue what you are talking about. please craw back under you rock now. 150 to fix? noids are 80... and co2 wont blow the noid. blowing the electronics? haha....

:rolleyes:

im done now... theres just so much wrong in that post its enough to kill a guy

any type of compressed gas made for paintball will work perfectly fine on your imp

paintballer42o
06-18-2003, 10:19 AM
Well, most people will say its fine just cause it says it can run off the stuff, but its not very true. Although it can, it can harm your gun in a very bad way. If you talk to proffesionals, paintball store clerks, or with caleb(the master!), they will tell you you shouldnt go with the anti-syphon for more than a month, its just not good for your gun. Be patient and get the nitro tank.

heyheyhey
06-18-2003, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by paintballer42o
Well, most people will say its fine just cause it says it can run off the stuff, but its not very true. Although it can, it can harm your gun in a very bad way. If you talk to proffesionals, paintball store clerks, or with caleb(the master!), they will tell you you shouldnt go with the anti-syphon for more than a month, its just not good for your gun. Be patient and get the nitro tank.

LOL

dude, shut up right now

i ran my cocker on un antisiphoned co2 for 6 months... did it blow up? uh no. it ran perfectly fine

plz shut up now and save yourself the embarrassment

puck_316
06-18-2003, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by heyheyhey

uhhh.. WTF... do you even have an imp? shockers ad imps were MADE to run on regular co2. Imps have to have regs... they run at 180 psi, and the maflo is MADE for co2. you obviously have no clue what you are talking about. please craw back under you rock now. 150 to fix? noids are 80... and co2 wont blow the noid. blowing the electronics? haha....

agreed... i run normol CO2 on my imp.. w/o A/S... its works fine. i know that THIS is not a good idea but im poor and its all i can afford.. i would kill to have an A/S tank... you wont hurt you imp doing this... though you MAY not get as good consistency as you would wit nitro it will work just fine

LimeRatImpy
06-18-2003, 10:29 AM
The reason why SmartParts released the impulse was so it could have a true electronic gun under $500 that was made to work on Co2 just like their shocker. I bet If you take a poll on how many Impulses run off of Co2 in this world it will be equal to or greater than those run off of N2. The Impulse is made to run off of CO2 paintballer42o, learn something, shut up, and stop being stubborn.

heyheyhey
06-18-2003, 10:30 AM
definatly greater;)

paintballer42o
06-18-2003, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by heyheyhey


LOL

dude, shut up right now

i ran my cocker on un antisiphoned co2 for 6 months... did it blow up? uh no. it ran perfectly fine

plz shut up now and save yourself the embarrassment
Thats a cocker:rolleyes:

heyheyhey
06-18-2003, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by paintballer42o

Thats a cocker:rolleyes:

you said you should never use antisiphon for more than a month

imps were made to run on co2:rolleyes:

doi

save yourself from being laughed at..... just go.... unless you enjoy being laughed at:eyes:

paintballer42o
06-18-2003, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by LimeRatImpy
The reason why SmartParts released the impulse was so it could have a true electronic gun under $500 that was made to work on Co2 just like their shocker. I bet If you take a poll on how many Impulses run off of Co2 in this world it will be equal to or greater than those run off of N2. The Impulse is made to run off of CO2 paintballer42o, learn something, shut up, and stop being stubborn.
Try and understand this:
N2 = good
Co2 = Not good
got it?
I never said DONT put Co2 on your gun:rolleyes:

paintballer42o
06-18-2003, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by heyheyhey


you said you should never use antisiphon for more than a month

imps were made to run on co2:rolleyes:

doi

save yourself from being laughed at..... just go.... unless you enjoy being laughed at:eyes:

Originally posted by paintballer42o

Try and understand this:
N2 = good
Co2 = Not good
got it?
I never said DONT put Co2 on your gun:rolleyes:

Dr J
06-18-2003, 10:38 AM
the biggest danger of running co2 on your imp is with liquid getting in the maxflow (can cause minor damage to o-rings and such) and the more drastic but less likely chance of getting liquid co2 in the noid, causing a need for a more painfull 'noid rebuild.

As long as you run an anti-siphon tank matched to your guns asa.

Other than that, you may experience slightly faster o-ring decay do to impurities in the CO2.

I've seen lots of impulse (even with LPRs) run great on CO2 for quite a while. They just don't seem to mind it.:cool:

Captain Anarchy
06-18-2003, 10:47 AM
I was talking to a guy running a booth at a big event (D-Day actually) I forgot what booth..but anyway he said Max Flo's like CO2(mind that its anti-siphon'd) more then N2. I don't know if the actually like it more then N2..but its just what I heard :rolleyes:

Dr J
06-18-2003, 10:58 AM
i wouldn't say that likes it "more" than co2, but it likes it. Co2 is however not quite as stable as N2, just the way it is, so you may have a slight increase in variance between shots, like an extra 2-4 fps. Or your particular Impulse could give you more or less variance with co2.

sIc
06-18-2003, 11:09 AM
See this is why i waited for more replys :D

Im glad to here they run good with co2, i guess ill go with that untill i have enough money for HPA. (like 4 monthes or so)

Keep em comin guys, i like to know what everybody thinks.

heyheyhey
06-18-2003, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by paintballer42o

LoL...
Anyway...
i wouldnt suggest using Co2 in your impy. Does it have a regulator? If it does, Co2 would be worse for the gun. It might blow the reg. at anytime without warning, which costs about 150 bux to fix.
If you dont have a reg, you could freeze up the electronics and the anti-syphon has a 7/8 chance of working.


if that doesnt say "do not use," i dont know what does

do you even know what an anti siphon is? ists not a chancey thing.... it always works......

and you reply to me with a quote from you AFTER i posted.... dude, you were wrong, just admit it instead of trying to always be right by keeping this up. definatly in the negatives on my respect list

paintballer42o
06-18-2003, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by sIc
See this is why i waited for more replys :D

Im glad to here they run good with co2, i guess ill go with that untill i have enough money for HPA. (like 4 monthes or so)

Keep em comin guys, i like to know what everybody thinks.
Good choice.

sIc
06-18-2003, 11:27 AM
One more stupid question...

How do i know what size tube is right for my 20 oz. Do i just need a "20 oz anti siphon tube"? I have a pure energy 20 oz if that helps.....

heyheyhey
06-18-2003, 11:48 AM
you just need an antisiphon tube.... id let a local shop do it tho.... if not doneright, well..... you could die... thats not good:( :eek:

sIc
06-18-2003, 11:52 AM
To bad theres not a local proshop within like 2 hour drive. Ill just let my friend do it (baller) he knows how. He basically did his own.

TripDaddyX
06-18-2003, 12:41 PM
AS Co2 isn't terrible.Noit good but not terrible.

Used C02 on my Turbo Shocker,and my imp(the scant month and a half I had it).Both ran rather well.No problems.

Also,a teammate of mine (puck_316) uses Co2 rather regularly and expereinces no problems,other than the reg gettin a lil frosty after rapid fire.A former teammate of mine used his Imp on Co2 for a year or so with no problems(still does I think,tho he double regs it now with a Vigilante running vert with maxflo on a drop,which I think is kind of moronic but ya know how people are).So if you must run Co2.HPA is definately good,but not mandatory.

straptrams
06-18-2003, 01:01 PM
Paintballer420...seriously just shutup. You don't kow what you're talking about. I've seen your other posts and you say things like you know what you're talking about, but you don't. Like heyheyhey said...save yourself the embarassment and just shutup.

Nowhere in the Impulse instruction manual does it say Co2 is bad for the marker and not to use it. They just tell you to use anti-siphon. Noob.

BaLLeRx10
06-18-2003, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by sIc
To bad theres not a local proshop within like 2 hour drive. Ill just let my friend do it (baller) he knows how. He basically did his own.

:agree: Thank you, Thank you

Commando52
06-18-2003, 02:54 PM
Yea, i use a/s co2 on my rat jr, no problems. if ur retarted and have down syndrome, u will mess it up becuase ur not knowledgeable about it, (paintballer42o).

lol everyone is flaming him, doesn't he notice?

:laugh: after all he is a :dunce: :rolleyes:

paintballer42o
06-18-2003, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by straptrams
Noob.
:rolleyes: :laugh: :rolleyes:

paintballer42o
06-18-2003, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by sIc
To bad theres not a local proshop within like 2 hour drive. Ill just let my friend do it (baller) he knows how. He basically did his own.
Ya, let him do it. Hey baller, where did you learn to insert an anti-syphon?

LimeRatImpy
06-18-2003, 04:01 PM
UH their are articles by airsmiths and you can be taught, I know some SP Techs are taught to install AntiSiphons for obvious reasons beyond your comprehension

Azn_gansta
06-18-2003, 04:05 PM
I run my impy on co2. Where im at now and cause my markers running so good on co2 i dont really see the point of me spending 200$ on an n2 tank.(but for a presentr i wouldnt mind) I would rather sepnd 200$ on my internals and a case of paint
All u need is stuff u can pick up at a hardware store. Copper tubing, and some adapters and stuff

sIc
06-18-2003, 04:23 PM
Hmmm... from what ive read it seems rather confusing...:(

Commando52
06-18-2003, 06:00 PM
HE WAS TALKING ABOUT YOU, YOUR THE NOOB

:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

ChaosImp
06-18-2003, 07:37 PM
geez i hate people who bash on imp users who have Co2, when they are using it with a maxflow, which was a)made to use it and b) one of the best regulators on the market.....of course im not saying n2 isnt better, but Co2 works FINE:eyes:

BaLLeRx10
06-19-2003, 06:01 AM
Ya, let him do it. Hey baller, where did you learn to insert an anti-syphon?

well. from what i heard over the internet, and i just used a little common sence. its really not all that hard. but make sure u loctite the tank and everyihtng so its safe

LordOfThePaint
07-01-2003, 04:28 PM
yeah, its pretty easy, my friend has done a couple tanks, and sometime this week I am doing my tank. Basically if you take your tank apart there no other place the tube could go on the valve then where its supposed to, and as long as you use loc tite and do everything safely its pretty easy.

Goozdude
07-02-2003, 06:10 AM
Heres you answer for co2 on impys and any other gun

co2 mind you is made up in our atmospher we breath it in all the time sometimes more than otheres but here inlies its problem it makes up a small percentage making it less stabel than any other gas and also less stable when in liquid to gas via anti syphon mind you anti syphon is not alwyas a fixer to your problem at high rates of shooting say about 8-12 bps u start loseing your anti sypones use and u start getting some if not much liquid to your reg x-chamber anything u try to eliminate liquid co2 but you can and perfectly well use co2 on your gun but its kinda like this you can use arc gasoline which is cheaper but is more harmfull to your car in compairison to co2 in which case u would use cheveron to make your car run better in this case hpa

now if you are on a buget i highly sugest getting what works for you or whats in your means co2 if you dont have many places that do the fill or ur jsut dirt poor like many people such as nmyself who have to save for a long time to get anything

now if you have the cash i suggest you get the hpa becuse for the fact its lighter consistant ant that n2 or compraised air is more stabel and heck who needs anti syphone when its already in stable and free gas and for the person who lives in cold climates so in the end it depends on this if u want to use co2

1.ur poor
2.co2 is all thats near you
3.hpa is out of ur price range
4.you just dont want to spend that much for a tank
5.your just a lameo who thinks hes better than everyone else pig headed and want nothing to do with hpa and flames co2 is better cause u wanteveryone else at a disadvantage except you, you damn jerkoff

anyways i hope this was a help to you and everyone else

LimeRatImpy
07-02-2003, 06:21 AM
ok w/e. You do not realize that some guns were developed/made to work under certain conditions for propellants. The Impy was tested/made to work with Co2 and HPA. SmartParts found that Co2 rarely hurt the Impy and usually the worst done was the reg freezing over. Some valves in paintball markers will no run on Co2, like the X-valve or those in Angels. So before you generalize everything this is in the Impy forum so this topic does not apply to general paintball markers like you were using as an example. Now I used other guns in my example to show you that not every paintball m arker can use C02. And HPA may be more consistent and cleaner than C02 but both acomplish the same task usually and their are minimal differences with Impulses using HPA and C02. Good day sir;) :D

Goozdude
07-02-2003, 06:27 AM
well u kind put or foot in your own mouth u said co2 did little or no damage that was my point and concern to other players if u can afford it i sugest the hpa, co2 i suges for its economy but as usual someone has to flame

co2= save cash but can harm your system to as much it would cost to have hpa

hpa=less cash in ur pocket but save you alot of time and pain

overal= hpa for ur plesure co2 for you pain

LimeRatImpy
07-02-2003, 06:30 AM
you can run an Imp off of Co2 for awhile even years till you get enough money to upgrade to HPA, but you are fine usually untill you get HPA.

Goozdude
07-02-2003, 06:34 AM
well its been my experience with co2 and hpa with imps and others co2 is good for short while but i dont recomend it at a certain degree (owns his own shop and runs a field) but im trying to help our bud here who made the post in the first place but as i will say again and again its ur circumstance that dictate what you get and the concequences you may have good or bad:eek:

LimeRatImpy
07-02-2003, 06:36 AM
yes i do not reccomed using Co2 in winter even w/ the Anti-Siphon., but spring and summer n' fall WHOOOOOOOOhoooo

htownpb
07-02-2003, 07:31 AM
Jesus christ people, the maxflo is the solenoids gaurd, its not going to let a harmful amount of liquid through to the solenoid. I was thinking of the expenses of using co2 and thought to myself omfg...

Those orings may be running in the hundreds of dollars to get on the black market every couple of days. How could I ever deal with such a thing?

A/S Co2 is fine to run on an imp. I have been for like 2-3 months, hasnt bothered it yet. Havent had to replace any of those expensive orings either. So if you want to, run co2, nitro will be better though, its more consistant and a bit more clean.

Goozdude
07-02-2003, 01:28 PM
well yes you can run the co2 but if you take a new imp put it on co2 then take your imp thats been on co2 for maby a year and sometimes les you will see a major difference in performance but by all means dont listen to the guy who owns paintball supplys guns co2 and hpa and the field in which he plays at and knows the difference when you deal with 2 different types of gas and co2 will damage your gun i dont know any gun that ive seen not suffer some form or degradsion over time with co2 aperantly its hard to fight its attack on ur guns weak points such as places where its 2 parts come together anyways there you go:pissed:

bobalis
07-02-2003, 01:35 PM
Co2 will run fine on the Impulse. HPA will always run better though.

smash
07-02-2003, 05:31 PM
well i have heard c02 anti siphon of course is just fine on a impy matter a fact i have a friend that owns a store, i shouldn't say friend i guess i know a guy that owns his own paintball store that uses c02 with a on/off he converted a n2 bottle..... he states smart part made the impy to run on c02...... not n2 and a 68 bottle last him all day.....????? me i would not use it because it is so dirty..... plus the max flo is made for c02..... max flo was way back when made for the shocker ..... before we had n2 and the shocker worked just fine.... a old gun tech had a shocker and to this day runs c02...... so there is my opinion
take it how you want to do what you want it's all up to you

No_DAMN_NAMES
07-02-2003, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by Goozdude
well yes you can run the co2 but if you take a new imp put it on co2 then take your imp thats been on co2 for maby a year and sometimes les you will see a major difference in performance but by all means dont listen to the guy who owns paintball supplys guns co2 and hpa and the field in which he plays at and knows the difference when you deal with 2 different types of gas and co2 will damage your gun i dont know any gun that ive seen not suffer some form or degradsion over time with co2 aperantly its hard to fight its attack on ur guns weak points such as places where its 2 parts come together anyways there you go:pissed: I doubt very much that you own anything resembling a paintball store. You both spell and act like your 4. I've used used impulses, some that have been on CO2 and A/S for over 2 years. And guess what? They are fine. Your whole theory about n2 compressed air and CO2 is distraught and thrown.

Goozdude
07-02-2003, 07:12 PM
when is it a requierment to spell corectly on forums and first of all where do you get the idea that i cant if i want to make picture perfect puntuation ill do it but its not worth my time to have a clean and perfect post if you want to make remarks to a individual person please by all mean pm me and my i also add impy is not the proper word useage for impulse so dont tell me nobody here isnt aware that spelling 100 percent is not a requierment i dont see that in any term of use or forum rules and for your information i hope to never see you in my store or field i can just feel you noobing it up just by the mear knowlege a person like you is around
good day and hope you find yourself some way and some how

i apologise to anyone else aperantly some people like to pick fights over simple ****

No_DAMN_NAMES
07-02-2003, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by Goozdude
when is it a requierment to spell corectly on forums and first of all where do you get the idea that i cant if i want to make picture perfect puntuation ill do it but its not worth my time to have a clean and perfect post if you want to make remarks to a individual person please by all mean pm me and my i also add impy is not the proper word useage for impulse so dont tell me nobody here isnt aware that spelling 100 percent is not a requierment i dont see that in any term of use or forum rules and for your information i hope to never see you in my store or field i can just feel you noobing it up just by the mear knowlege a person like you is around
good day and hope you find yourself some way and some how

i apologise to anyone else aperantly some people like to pick fights over simple **** No I mean how you carry on and have shown no proof that you have any credentials.

Goozdude
07-02-2003, 07:28 PM
Do you need me to sing it for you or what

LimeRatImpy
07-02-2003, 07:33 PM
all i'm gona say is that No_Damn_Names has some experience here and Goozdude you have been here less than a couple days it seems that you need to show you know something before you assume you know something, show us some actual knowledge, if i may say you seeem a little n00bish but you may not be, sooooooo w/e

legendaryloser
07-02-2003, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by Goozdude
but by all means dont listen to the guy who owns paintball supplys guns co2 and hpa and the field in which he plays at and knows the difference when you deal with 2 different types of gas and co2 will damage your gun

You own your own field at the age of 18? That's pretty impressive.....

LimeRatImpy
07-03-2003, 06:43 AM
either he is lying or his mummy und daddy paid for it, or maybe he won the lotto!!!!!

sIc
07-03-2003, 06:48 AM
It doesnt matter if you own a shop, my local shop dude thinks you should never run c02 on imps too....Obviously after looking at all the people who say its ok on here, you 2 are completely wrong.

perudo12
07-03-2003, 07:19 AM
wat if i get a premaid anti-siphon tank from pbgear.com will that be matched correctly to my gun? or when i get my imp from epbo should i just get the tank with that? or would both options be fine?
Thanx

perudo12
07-03-2003, 07:32 AM
ok, my last post didnt come up so ill put it in in again if it shows up twice sry. If i get a premaid a/s tank from pbgear.com will it be matched correctly to my gun? Or when i order my imp from epbo should i get the a/s tank from there at the same time? would that be matched to my gun right?
Thanx for the help

LimeRatImpy
07-03-2003, 08:09 AM
get the tank from epaintballoutlet the same time you get the gun, it should match it plus you'll pay less for the tanka nd shipping cost compared to buying from 2 seperate places

Ven X CockerBoy
07-04-2003, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by Goozdude
well yes you can run the co2 but if you take a new imp put it on co2 then take your imp thats been on co2 for maby a year and sometimes les you will see a major difference in performance but by all means dont listen to the guy who owns paintball supplys guns co2 and hpa and the field in which he plays at and knows the difference when you deal with 2 different types of gas and co2 will damage your gun i dont know any gun that ive seen not suffer some form or degradsion over time with co2 aperantly its hard to fight its attack on ur guns weak points such as places where its 2 parts come together anyways there you go:pissed:

LMFAO.....dude of course an old impulse is gonna have differences with a new.......no matter what kinda air you use :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: