Gladiator Reg, Output Pressure, and Gauges OHH MY

[PoInT BlAnK]

:confused:Where can i get a silver gladiator reg(cheap). i have a 68/4500 pure energy nitro tank preset at 800-850psi and i am wondering if i will damage or cause problems in the timmy if i have this high of pressure. would it matter at all if i run it with the glad. i would die before i used co2 on a timmy. i am also planning on doing the LP mod(and i am wondering if i can because of the pressure). also what gage should i get 0-300psi or 0-700psi :confused:



thank for your help and imput
-mike:D

[PoInT BlAnK]

come on
eltwitcho
vern 1
morphus
omega 6
help pleeze

[elTwitcho]

I'm on it my man :P

Okey dokey, first question, 750 psi into the marker is a bad idea. Bob recomends against it, and if you absolutely must do it be sure to turn on the air source very slowly. Generally it's bad for the internals of the marker (I'm guessing because if the pressure jumps too quickly the LP reg may spike and screw up your solenoid) so you should avoid this. However, with a gladiator your setup would work extremely well. Your best bet for input pressures would be about 500psi stock setup. If you do the LP mod (highly recomended) you will absolutely need an inline regulator such as the glad, as this governs velocity. Good pressure for the LP mod is around 180-220. Less than 170 if you purchase the new volumizer from Bob long. for your gladiators output pressure, look into a guage from www.wickedairsportz.com Their guages are of extremely high quality, and if you are showing output, non LP modded 700 would work best, with the LP mod 400 or so would be good. And beleive it or not, the timmy works very well on CO2. I was forced to play a full day of CO2 and shot half a case without a single problem

[Vern1]

Greetings,
The only thing that I would suggest is if you HAVE to shoot CO2, get a Palmer Stabalizer as they are the best CO2 regulators.
Other than that, what he said above.

[PoInT BlAnK]

:D thank you very much eltwitcho for all your help and expertice. thanks vern1 too:D

[Splat98]

Plz someone enlighten me, what the heck is the Low Pressure mod? im guessing its not stock but what does it do? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[JorynnRace]

Well, it kinda depends how much you already know about paintball guns. I'll explain it like this:

Basically, in order to shoot a paintball a certain pressure must be met. You can trade high pressure for low pressure when there is enough volume. Hence the LP mod.

A stock intimidator has 2 regulators. A high pressure (HP) and a low pressure (LP, uhh bottom one). Twitch will have to help me on the details exactly, but the LP recocks your gun, and the HP holds that air that "pushes" the paint ball out the barrel.

when the intimidator is stock, the HP reg will mostly be responsible for adjusting velocity (although it is really finding a good combination of pressures with both the LP and HP regs)

OK, wait.. I think I just confused myself...

Oh yeah, so, when you do the LP mod, you basically gut the HP reg so that it is just a hollow canister. Then you MUST attach an inline reg under the LP reg. The inline reg (gladiator/max-flow/stab or what have you) will be responsible for velocity adjustment, and what used to be the HP reg is now an empty chamber to hold a certain amount of volume of air (or CO2).

Basically the advantages of the LP mod, are that it makes it even more impossible to break a ball, the gun is quieter (some people think), but most importantly, it is more consistent when you bring it to the chronograph. Instead of being +/- 4or5 fps, its more like +/- 1or2 fps (in my experience... your milage may vary)

hope this helps..

[PoInT BlAnK]

the low pressure mod consists of gutting the internals or the high pressure reg on the timmy to have less kick and better accuracy
go to www.pettypb.com/timilp.html

[Splat98]

Ok thanks you guys, but one last thing will i need a second reg if im using a preset tank, lets say this is my set up:
Timmi w/LP mod, Gladiator reg, and a 68/3k preset (8oo-85o PSI), will i need another regulator?

[PoInT BlAnK]

no the gladiator reg would be your second reg it skrews into your asa adapter

the gun comes with 2 regs a hp and a lp

BArrel
hp reg the hp reg is undre the barrel and when you do the lp mod it just acts a a place to store air
lp reg is under the hp reg it recocks the gun
asa-is where u put your glad reg wich regulates the pressure going into your gun from the tank

good questions:)

[Omega6_Virus]

you guys might want to get a piecethat screws into your asa adapter that has a gauge port and that your glad can screw into. BTW Most glads are no more than 75 unless you get green.
I am usinga 1500psi gauge right now but it is in 50 incraments so its okay. just get a 150 gauge and 300. The ony thing is you will have to go to a proshop. I was gonna get my gauges from wicked air but i was too excited to wait to order em. so i bought hte only gauge left in my local shop, the 1500psi one. ITs okay but i recommend against it. try to get the correct gauges.

[PoInT BlAnK]

yeah i was gonna get that piece but i am doing th lp mod so i dont need it. i am not going to keep the gagues on my gun it makes it too wide hey omega where can u get silver glads for that cheap

[A damn fool]

How much are those asa gauge ports? Im buying a glad regulator, and i am going to need to set the presre on it to 300, but after that ill never realyl have to touch it again, so i wont keep it on the gun. How else could i test the pressure? I have a spyder with a guage drilled in the asa adaptor, is that sufficient for testing the pressure of the glad? Ive heard that there is a 100 psi error in the guages on the asa adaptors, is that true?

ANd while im on the subject of regulators, i have a pmi pure ergy and a black ice, which one should i keep and which one shouyld i sell, i need one of them for my shutter.

[PoInT BlAnK]

http://www.g3pb.com/product_images/lapco/dual_adapter.gif
is where you can get the adapters
if you have the lp mod done you dont have to have the adapter you can just put the gague on the hp reg
you can drill the gague but if you were me i wouldnt
i have never heard of that 100 psi error thing
not to flame but neither of those regs are good but keep the black ice

[Omega6_Virus]

http://www.animalpaintball.com then at the top menu, which is in blue, click Tank Stuff and scroll down to the gladiator. The black and silver are 75 and the green is 80 or 85.

[PoInT BlAnK]

thanks omega 6 and evry1 esle for the help

[Omega6_Virus]

No Problem. I like to help out. Thats why I am here.

BTW Point blank, I dunno if you saw my reply in some other thread but dont use MICRO line. Get MACRO. Micro is too small. OR get steal braided.
O yeah, just call me Virus.

[Splat98]

Wait one second Omega/Virus...:)
Which is better, Macro or Stainless? im guessing stainless is always gonna cost more but is it really worth it? and just to make sure one last time...:)
A low pressure moded (is that a word?) timmi with a glad reg and a preset tank will shot good right? Thanks for all help guys!

[elTwitcho]

Yes it will work great. Stainless is better than macro because it is rated for a higher pressure and macro will blow sometimes. Macro however looks much better and can be easily cut to exactly the length that you want, while stainless cannot. Performance wise, you arent going to see any difference whatsoever between them

[JorynnRace]

Splat, dude, I myself have macro-line, LP mod, stainless gladiator and preset tank (68ci/3000 Pure Energy), and it shoots like a dream. (when its properly maintained.. but thats the same with every intimidator)

For example, on a good day, my chronying will look like this:
290, 289, 291, 290, 290, 289

get the point? its very consistent with that set up.

[PoInT BlAnK]

i like micro-macro lines cause they can be cut have diff colors swivel and can be taken apart easily