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bunkerking38
07-16-2003, 11:00 AM
hey i am a little new to impulses and i heard stuff about FSDO. i am not exactly sure what it is and what it stands for but i heard it is something like first shot drop something..thx

tippi98custom
07-16-2003, 11:05 AM
yea its first shot drop off and i think you fix it by cleaning and lubing all your internals but im not sure. before a game just take a shot a to get rid of it then it should be fine

Moo Shoo H34d
07-16-2003, 12:24 PM
no, thats wrong, FSDO is cured by an LPR or a TapeWorm. and as long as you take a few shots before playing you will be fine. i never found it a problem, but then i have a tapeworm

xLiLHockeyFreak
07-16-2003, 12:40 PM
FSDO is varies, in many cases you can't just take a shot or 2 and it'll be fine...

Slick Shot Ram's and the new WAS board will also eliminate FSDO.

Moo Shoo H34d
07-16-2003, 01:19 PM
before the tapeworm i found it was the first two or three shots off of just gassing up.... thats all it was to me

bunkerking38
07-16-2003, 05:11 PM
ya ok i got that but what is fsdo? (not the name, but the function).

paintslinger14
07-16-2003, 05:24 PM
Moo Shoo you propablly had bolt stick with a little bit of FSDO since you said the tapeworm fixed it. Ya new guns mostly dont have FSDO any more, but a slick shaft is the easiest solution.

thebluenu
07-16-2003, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by Moo Shoo H34d
no, thats wrong, FSDO is cured by an LPR or a TapeWorm. and as long as you take a few shots before playing you will be fine. i never found it a problem, but then i have a tapeworm no, your wrong, fsdo is not cured by lpr or a tapeworm.... you had bolt stick, different from fsdo.....

h0p
07-16-2003, 05:53 PM
read FAQ to learn what FSDO is bunkerking38. it really isnt a problem just turn on ur gun then take a shot or 2 at the ground before the game starts

thebluenu
07-16-2003, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by h0p
read FAQ to learn what FSDO is bunkerking38. it really isnt a problem just turn on ur gun then take a shot or 2 at the ground before the game starts most fsdo is not bad at all, shot or 2 should fix it.... but in some cases, its REALLY bad, i mean, REALLY bad.... a slick shot fix that problem for me :eyes:

sIc
07-16-2003, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by bunkerking38
ya ok i got that but what is fsdo? (not the name, but the function).

Its when your first shot in say 5-10 minutes, is abnormally slower than the rest. Then it will go away, but after letting it sit for another 5-10 minutes it will happen again.

Dr J
07-18-2003, 08:01 AM
bluenu is half right...

FSDO is absolutely NOT a function of the air passageways. Therefore it cannot be solved by using a tapeworm or LPR.

FSDO is caused by the SOLENOID! The 'noid needs extra juice the first time it is fired after it sits awhile. The Smart Parts boards do not supply the extra electricity needed. The WAS board fixes that problem by having an inline capacitor.

Other things that you do can help relieve the symptoms of FSDO but don't cure it. Those are things like making sur the 'noid is clean and lubed, making sure there is no grease on the hammer, using a ND Slick Shot (one of the best impy upgrades), and using silicone shock oil in your impy (against waranty).

Look at it this way:

The Equalizer board from WAS cures the cause of FSDO. Similar to the same way Antibiotics cure a bacteria infection when you are sick.

ND slick shot and other things can help relieve the symptoms of FSDO just like Dayquil or Sudafed can relieve the symptoms of whatever is making you sick, without actually curing you.

Moo Shoo H34d
07-18-2003, 10:08 AM
sorry gus, it seemsa as though i was misinformed by a "sp guru"

i_luv_strats
07-18-2003, 12:55 PM
I dont see why people complain about fsdo, just do what every one says to do, take a shot or 2 before the game.

Shoe3
07-18-2003, 04:41 PM
some people (Richy_C comes to mind) had it REALLY bad, so after 15 seconds the first shot would not make it out of the barrel, and the second would make the two collide, breaking both of them.

thepainter
07-18-2003, 10:17 PM
No fsdo is usually from build up of dow 33 that gets pushed behind the hammer, so iv heard

Dr J
07-18-2003, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by thepainter
No fsdo is usually from build up of dow 33 that gets pushed behind the hammer, so iv heard

FSDO is not caused by the build up of dow on the hammer. But that does accentuate the symptoms.

Imagine this.... you have a charlie horse in your leg. It hurts (fsdo). You squeeze you leg hard, it hurts more. You don't have a charlie horse cause you sqeezed you leg... but squeezing it made it feel worse.

The dow doesn't cause it.... but it can make it worse.

Shoe3
07-19-2003, 09:59 AM
Dr. J, have you used the Equalizer? Does it in fact cure fsdo 100%? Your responce will be greatly apreciated.

Dr J
07-19-2003, 12:04 PM
No, I have not used the WAS board however my team mates have. The Rat Factory and Rat Dogs teams were chosen to field test the WAS boards. I have talked to several of them about the boards and only ever heard one complaint (Goose said that he wasn't going to be able to keep his prototype board he had for testing, it is going to be taken away and he will get a production version.

I'll give them a call this weekend and see if I can get an "absolutely" from my buddies.

Shoe3
07-19-2003, 01:58 PM
Thank you Dr. J, I will be looking foward to hearing the "absolutes"

Dr J
07-23-2003, 09:01 AM
Sorry it took so long to back to everyone on the FSDO thing. My cell phone went poopy in it's pants.... but it's feeling much better now. Anyway, I had to use that old fashioned e-mail, which is better, cause now I can give you a word for word.


E-mail from Goose at EPBO/Ratguns

Yes, the first boards created first shot hot. The main problem with FSDO is sot a smooth or light ram, that is a cheap cover up fix to the real problem.

The real problem is that SM stock boards don't store energy, they pull straight from the battery. So as your battery dies you lose performance (This you know). FSDO is caused when the gun has been at rest and you pull the trigger, energy is pulled from the battery and that first shot doesn't
have enough power to fully cycle. The next shot is ok because the power is flowing again.

The WAS board stores energy for the next shot while you are
pulling the trigger for the first shot. This way there is always power ready and waiting, so no FSDO. Also no poor velocity as your battery dies. So a half dead battery will work just as good as a new battery, unlike the stock boards. The WAS board fixes alot of problems. Jim is the man.

Goose


-----Original Message-----

Goose,

Do the WAS boards really solve FSDO?

Thanks,
J

Shoe3
07-23-2003, 11:02 AM
thank you!