My idea for homemade rear cocking.

[BMXer]

I have an idea on how to make your own rear cocking. You could drill a hole in the end cap, drill a hole in the bolt insert, and try to put something in the bolt insert for a cocking rod. To hold the insert in place, you would have to have something to replace the stock cocking knob, maybe a dowel rod. You would have to drill a hole in whatever you used to replace the stock cocking knob, so that the drive spring would be able to go through it. For the cocking knob, you might be able to use an old bicycle spoke, and thread it into the hole you would drill into the bolt insert. The bolt insert is aluminum, so I'm sure you could drill a hole in it with a regular drill and maybe a titanium bit, and the hole wouldn't have to be that deep. You could put something on the end of the bicycle spoke to make it easier to cock. For safety reasons, you would need a beaver tail. What do you guys think? Do you think it would work?

Here's a pic of my idea so far: (see attachment)

[willpill]

ya it would work i think..

haha saftey reason..imgainie gettting"stabbed" by a spoke...

i saw one pic in the pic thread with a string with a ball attached to the rear bolt through a hole in the endcap.

looked like those girly pencils but it was a good idea

[Relentless]

good idea...

and maybe some kind of beaver tail though...

and how are you going to get the rod to stay in the bolt? jb weld or something?

[BMXer]

That's the one thing I'm not sure about; bicycle spokes have threads on one end of them, and I'm pretty sure they'll thread into the bolt insert, but I'm not sure if they will withstand the force of someone cocking it.

[willpill]

this will totally cost at the most 5 bucks?

[Relentless]

if you have a drill (with bits), JB weld, a wooden dowl, and a metel rod laying around...

[BMXer]

Relentless, what you said about jb weld got me thinking. You could let the threaded end of the bicycle spoke stick out of the endcap so that you could screw the spoke nipple onto the threaded end of the spoke. The spoke nipple would make a good cocking knob. You could drill a hole the size of the spoke into the bolt insert, and use jb weld to hold the spoke in the bolt insert. I'll get a pic of my current idea soon. How much does jb weld cost? Would the drill bit break in the bolt insert?

[Relentless]

drill bit wont break... its only allumium :P

and jb weld is 5 or 10$... not sure...

and if you have a tap and di, you could thread the hole and the rod (bike spoke) and just screw it in... less perminant (jb weld is...) but just as strong

that would make both sides threaded...

[BMXer]

Idea so far:

[willpill]

looks familiar.. but good

[BMXer]

Does anyone know how far into the rear bolt insert the spoke should go?

[Relentless]

how are you holding it in?

maybe 1/2 an inch for jb weld

if your threading it, 1/4 would work

[BMXer]

I'll probably use JB weld... if I do it; thanks for the info.

Does anyone wany me to get some pics of it when (if) I get through doing it?

[E r y k]

looks hot... but im not going to screw around with it until i get a spare end cap and bolt.

[llSmithll]

FULL BOAR SHADOW

[willpill]

ooo ya.. tats what i remeber now..
haha thanks smith


http://countypaintball.com/images/new_full_boar1.jpg

[BMXer]

Originally posted by E r y k
looks hot... but im not going to screw around with it until i get a spare end cap and bolt.

You won't need a spare rear bolt, just a bolt insert; I made the hole in my endcap with a shortened bike spoke and a hammer, then I cleaned the hole up, made the hole a little bigger so that the spoke would slide through it better. You can barely see the hole in the endcap; the hole isn't that hard to make, because there's only like 3mm of plastic that you have to get through. The hard part I going to be drilling the hole right. BTW does the hole I drill have to be the exact same size as the bike spoke if I use JB weld??

[BMXer]

It's done except for the part I'm going to need to replace the cocking knob; it holds up without using JB weld, but I'm going to put some in there today so it will hold up better. I'll try to get some pics of the finished product sometime. I haven't actually gassed my gun up and shot it yet, but it should work fine. Does anyone want to see instructions on howw do to this? Also, does anyone have suggestions for making a side cover?

[Relentless]

side cover: buy one.

6$ at countys

http://countypaintball.com/product_description.asp?item=1718

[BMXer]

I know I can get one there, but I'll probably end up making on out of popsicle sticks.

[Serpentine]

when yah get the time take some pics i wanna see this :eek:

[BMXer]

I found something to replace the cocking knob, and I also made a side cover kit out of popsicle sticks. I tested it briefly today, and it works fine. I really do want to get some pics of it sometime, so that I can show them to you all, but it'll be a while before I get around a digital camera or scanner.:(

[willpill]

wow.. popsicle stick...

its all good tho..

it works so its ok

[BMXer]

The popiscle sticks work like a charm, but they're a little hard to make. You can hardly tell that the side cover is wooden, and IMO, they look just as good, if not better than any other side cover. IMO, they also work as good as, if not better than any other side cover, but maybe I'm just proud of my creation:D. The two side covers that I made can be installed and uninstalled with no tools; cool huh?

[Relentless]

they can prolly also fall out with no tools :P

sounds cool!

pics some time would be nice :D

[TippyBalla]

Pop sicle sticks..... that looks kinda like the side cover on the FullBoar

[BMXer]

Relentless, I don't think thay will fall out, because they're a little hard to get out if you don't know how to do it right. They might come out if they hit something though. Do you guys want me to post the instructions for this mod?

[Serpentine]

find a camera i have to see this ! :P

[BMXer]

I'm trying to get my hands on a digital camera or a scanner so that I can post a pic, but I haven't had any luck. I really do want to get you guys some pics though.

[TippyBalla]

Take a pic and go to Kinko, then you can scan it and put it here! I think....LOL:D

[tonysk83]

Popscicle sticks, this kid likes the ghetto effect:cool:

[BMXer]

Originally posted by tonysk83
Popscicle sticks, this kid likes the ghetto effect:cool:

I also like the cheap effect.

[llSmithll]

full boar shadow's milled aluminum looks 5x better than the popsicle stick...

[BMXer]

Speak for yourself, because even though I think the Full Boar one looks better, I don't think it looks 5x better; it also depends on how you do it. The Full boar costs a couple of bucks more, I would have to get a phillips head screwdriver to get it off, and I would have to order a side cover and wait for it to come in. I can make a bunch of side covers with $2.00 and a hot glue gun. Maybe I'll get a Full Boar slot cover one day, but for now, this one works fine. :D

[TippyBalla]

LOL, I like the cheap effect......hehe:D :laugh:

[llSmithll]

Full boar is a drop in upgrade, i dont see why you need a philips, and the slot covers come with them for free.

[willpill]

i wonder what bmxer gun looks like.

i imagine a whole bunch of parts from the trash..


no offense.. but i would like the see the popsicle stickk.

[BMXer]

Originally posted by willpill
[B]i wonder what bmxer gun looks like...

i imagine a whole bunch of parts from the trash..


no offense.. but i would like the see the popsicle stick. .

LOL, no, the rear cocking mod is the only thing like that, andjust incase everyone doesn't know, the popsicle stick is the side cover. On my marker I'm soon (probably Tuesday) to have a Lapco Autospirit 9oz BE tank , 12oz tank, KAPP Tear drop forward, KAPP on/off ASA, Vertical adapter, Dead On X-core x-chamber, APP dogbone offset, homemade rear cocking, homemade side cover, Psycho Ballistics double trigger guard, and gray macroline.


Full boar is a drop in upgrade, i dont see why you need a philips, and the slot covers come with them for free.

I thought you were talking about the side cover when you said popsicle stick, because that's what the side cover is made of; I was talking about the side cover that Full Boar makes when I was talking about a phillips head, because they need a phillips head screwdriver for installation. I plan on getting a Full Boar Shadow one day, but for now, I'll keep my homemade rear cocking.

Does anyone want me to post the instructions?

[willpill]

go to county paintball and lok at the pic. its kinda self explanatory

[llSmithll]

no, the full boar slide covers use the same allen wrenches to open the gun.

[BMXer]

you're right; I don't know why I thought it took screwdrivers.

[SEALLogan]

Why would you want rear cocking?? I am getting a Rocket Cock in a couple days (in the mail). I think it will work and look much better then a popsicle (wow that isn't spelled right) and a bike spoke. And it was 10 bucks....about the same as the homemade full boar rear cock. Interesting though.

[BMXer]

Originally posted by SEALLogan
Why would you want rear cocking?? I am getting a Rocket Cock in a couple days (in the mail). I think it will work and look much better then a popsicle (wow that isn't spelled right) and a bike spoke. And it was 10 bucks....about the same as the homemade full boar rear cock. Interesting though.

:peace: I want rear cocking the same reason you want rocket cock. You can't even tell that the side cover is a popsicle stick, and the bike spoke doesn't look bad. I don't see how a rocket cock would look much better, or work much better than my rear cocking mod; I'm working on a way to make it look better. The only part that look a little bad is the bike spoke, but every one I've showed the mod to didn't know it was a bike spoke until I told them. This mod is not a homemade Full Boar rear cocking; it's just a homemade rear cocking mod. Another reason I wanted to do it is because I like to mess around with my paintball gun. For my friend's application, my side cover is actually better than the Full Boar side cover; my friend cocks his gun with a little pin, pulls the pin out, and put his side cover on. (I will explain more of that later).

[SEALLogan]

Originally posted by BMXer


:peace: I want rear cocking the same reason you want rocket cock. You can't even tell that the side cover is a popsicle stick, and the bike spoke doesn't look bad. I don't see how a rocket cock would look much better, or work much better than my rear cocking mod; I'm working on a way to make it look better. The only part that look a little bad is the bike spoke, but every one I've showed the mod to didn't know it was a bike spoke until I told them. This mod is not a homemade Full Boar rear cocking; it's just a homemade rear cocking mod. Another reason I wanted to do it is because I like to mess around with my paintball gun. For my friend's application, my side cover is actually better than the Full Boar side cover; my friend cocks his gun with a little pin, pulls the pin out, and put his side cover on. (I will explain more of that later).

So what is my reason for getting a Rocket Cock??

[tonysk83]

The full boar cover is trash...They aren't made of metal, they are made of plastic, delrin if I remember right, and are very very breakable, theres no way I'll even recommend it to anyone, imo stay with side cocking

[BMXer]

Originally posted by SEALLogan


So what is my reason for getting a Rocket Cock??

Because you want rocket cock, and I made my own rear cocking because I wanted rear cocking.

[willpill]

Originally posted by SEALLogan


So what is my reason for getting a Rocket Cock??

IMO:

becasue youll ike to spend money on something uglay.

get the full boar shadow.

ask smith. he knows

[BMXer]

Originally posted by willpill


IMO:

becasue youll ike to spend money on something uglay.

get the full boar shadow.

ask smith. he knows

LOL... I was going to say that, but I didn't want to offend anyone. Everyone likes different things.

[willpill]

almost every ugrade is personal prefs.



so get what looks good. or thinks performs good

[Relentless]

Originally posted by tonysk83
The full boar cover is trash...They aren't made of metal, they are made of plastic, delrin if I remember right, and are very very breakable, theres no way I'll even recommend it to anyone, imo stay with side cocking

:nod:

delrin is only good for bolts :rolleyes:

[willpill]

well doesnt the cover rub agains the hammer?

o well..

so does delrin not neeed to be lubed all the time

[Relentless]

Originally posted by willpill

so does delrin not neeed to be lubed all the time

you dont have to lube it...

allumium would of been better... thats what rubs up against the bolt anyway... no point in having delrin there...

[willpill]

like wahts it made of?

[tonysk83]

Delrin, plus, it doesnt even rub up against it, it rubs against those little metal washers, they should of used aluminum, I cracked mine the day I got it

[willpill]

eh.. ill just stick with what i got.

but i have the aluminum bolt that came with my alum pT.

ill try it someday and tell you guys wats happing wiht it

[SEALLogan]

Originally posted by willpill


IMO:

becasue youll ike to spend money on something uglay.

get the full boar shadow.

ask smith. he knows

Yeah, that is why I am getting it. Because I like to spend my money on something uglay (is that some kind of french accent kind of thing??)

First, I am broke because I recently bought a computer and my tippmann with my savings. So no, I don't like to spend my money on things that are "uglay."

The reason I bought it was because I don't want any external moving parts. <---That is the main reason. But also I want the seal that it makes so that I don't get paint/dirt/water in my internals.

No, I dont want the full boar shadow for a couple reasons. I got a deal on my DOP Rocket Cock. The full boar is 6 and a half times as much money. Second, I could have made my own for $5 :eek: . But that still doesn't have the main feature that I am looking for. That bike spoke will still move...

And I am not going to ask Smith...because I don't know what you want me to ask smith. And quite frankly I don't care what smith has to say. If he wants to say it fine, but I still am going to like the Rocket Cock that will come and be attached to MY gun on Wednesday.

One more thing though, if this thing is so dang ugly, then why do half of the people have one on their gun in this gallery. m98modstop (http://www.m98modstop.com/gallery.htm) And most of the others have the full boar. There arent many that have nothing, or a homemade rear cocking system with a popsicle stick.

[BMXer]

If I wanted no external parts, I've got another mod for that, which is what my friend is using.

[llSmithll]

Originally posted by tonysk83
Delrin, plus, it doesnt even rub up against it, it rubs against those little metal washers, they should of used aluminum, I cracked mine the day I got it

how the hell did you do that? ive had mine for 8 months and its as good as the day i bought it. oh, and seal logan, your tring to tell me you paid $7.69 for that rocket cock?

[SEALLogan]

I spent $10 on my Rocket Cock. And when I said 6.5 times as much I was just looking at the listed price on www.tippmann.com. and that is for the Full Boar Shadow Rear Cocking with no external moving parts.

[llSmithll]

used? cause they are 50.

[SEALLogan]

nope, it is new. Friend wholesales, and gave me a great deal.

[llSmithll]

no kidding! see if i can buy a rico off him...

[SEALLogan]

I personally really love the looks of a ricco, but I don't need a motorized hopper yet. My gun is currently stock, haven't even put my Rocket Cock on yet. I still think it looks cool stock though.

http://www.sighost.com/user/SEALLogan/sighosttippy.jpg

[llSmithll]

dont worry, your gun will jam...someday, it will jam...

[SEALLogan]

I play woods ball, so I am not too woried about it. Ok, just a little.

[llSmithll]

ha! i rarely play speedball.

[SEALLogan]

I am not a "sniper". But I choose my shots wisely. Usually from behind if possible. But I move into position and move behind them until I know I can hit them with ease. Then when they are fully concentrating on someone or something else I open up on them with a quick 5-8 shots. Then I am back behind good cover again. And with the stock hopper you have what, 4-6 shots in the stack, so, it works well.

[Relentless]

barrel should always be your first upgrade... especially on tippies...

whats the point of the rocket cock?

if you say it keeps out paint and dirt, i bet your prolly gonna clean your marker after every day of play anyway, so no worry...

if your gonna get something like that, i say go all out and get a shadow

[llSmithll]

well, have you ever taken a direct hit to the side slot? its not pretty, and you will have to clean that all out, and he already bought the rocket cock i believe.

[SEALLogan]

Originally posted by Relentless
barrel should always be your first upgrade... especially on tippies...

whats the point of the rocket cock?

if you say it keeps out paint and dirt, i bet your prolly gonna clean your marker after every day of play anyway, so no worry...

if your gonna get something like that, i say go all out and get a shadow

Ok, think really hard. Maybe I dont want to spend $65 on the Full Boar with no external moving parts. Maybe I don't want to spend $35-100 on a barrel right now. I am satisfied with the performance of my gun stock, anything above and beyond just excedes my expectations. I am 15 and work my a** off for minimum wage. I can't get a job anywhere else until I am 16 because nobody wants people that are under 16. So between my computer and my gun, and paint and air, that doesn't leave much money left over to pay for my cell phone bill and anything else I want to buy. Everyone has their reasons for getting stuff. It is my gun and I will upgrade it to my playing style.

[willpill]

good choice..

i would ditch the cell phone tho..
i dont have one and nothings wrong

[BMXer]

I've got some really cool upgrades on my 98c now; all I really want now is a Ricochet AK, Full Boar Shadow, and a double trigger. Of course, there are other things I want, like an LP kit and a Palmer Stabilizer, but that will be a while.

[Caleb98]

Originally posted by SEALLogan


Ok, think really hard. Maybe I dont want to spend $65 on the Full Boar with no external moving parts. Maybe I don't want to spend $35-100 on a barrel right now. I am satisfied with the performance of my gun stock, anything above and beyond just excedes my expectations. I am 15 and work my a** off for minimum wage. I can't get a job anywhere else until I am 16 because nobody wants people that are under 16. So between my computer and my gun, and paint and air, that doesn't leave much money left over to pay for my cell phone bill and anything else I want to buy. Everyone has their reasons for getting stuff. It is my gun and I will upgrade it to my playing style.

dude your 15 and make minimum wage and your complaining that you poor...ha!!
I'm 14 I've spent most of my summer in a dairy frost making 2.25 an hour and I got more upgrades on my gun I'm not making fun of you, I was satisfied with the performance of my 98 but why be satisfied when they're stuff to make it better????
don't be complaining that your poor other people have it harder than you and not just me...

[Relentless]

Originally posted by SEALLogan


Ok, think really hard. Maybe I dont want to spend $65 on the Full Boar with no external moving parts. Maybe I don't want to spend $35-100 on a barrel right now. I am satisfied with the performance of my gun stock, anything above and beyond just excedes my expectations. I am 15 and work my a** off for minimum wage. I can't get a job anywhere else until I am 16 because nobody wants people that are under 16. So between my computer and my gun, and paint and air, that doesn't leave much money left over to pay for my cell phone bill and anything else I want to buy. Everyone has their reasons for getting stuff. It is my gun and I will upgrade it to my playing style.
some1 i know bought a j&j ceramic for 15$...

cell phone=30$ a month unless if you buy 5000 extra minutes you dont need.

i wasnt saying that its my decision of what you get, i was stating an opinion, much like you are.

[willpill]

tippmann 98 CUSTOM <------

[BMXer]

Dude, I'm 15, and I don't get much money at all, but I save my money, and I have good things to show for it. I have been given a few things though.

[SEALLogan]

Originally posted by Caleb98


dude your 15 and make minimum wage and your complaining that you poor...ha!!
I'm 14 I've spent most of my summer in a dairy frost making 2.25 an hour and I got more upgrades on my gun I'm not making fun of you, I was satisfied with the performance of my 98 but why be satisfied when they're stuff to make it better????
don't be complaining that your poor other people have it harder than you and not just me...

Never ever did I say I was poor. I just don't have a lot of money right now. I worked all of last year when I was 14 making minimum wage, and saved almost every penny of it. Then I have worked all that I can now that I am 15 at the same place, still at minimum wage, still saving. But I decided to by a computer and my paintball gun, and guess what, my bank account is considerably smaller.

$1300 computer
$250 for 98c package (it was a good package)
$45 on another case of paint.

And that was almost all of my money. And I didn't make it by just bagging groceries. That is the smallest part of my job actually. After cleaning the store, bathrooms, all the garbage, pushing carts, sorting bottles, cleaning the machines, doing odd errrons for cashiers, cleaning spills, taking care of damaged items, doing things customers want me to do, and restocking shelves, I don't have any down time. I move constantly for my whole shift. I am in no way complaining, but I can upgrade my gun the way I want to. If I could get a JnJ for $15, that would be awesome and I would jump right on it. But I am going to save my money until winter, and then upgrade things when I don't spend money on other things like paint and air.

I just got my gun like 3 weeks ago. Many of you have probably had yours a lot longer, so obviously you have more upgrades for it. MEH, I am not getting rid of my cell phone. I can't drive yet, so I need to call my mom to have her pick me up. I hate to cut a day of paintball short because I estimated the wrong time for it to get over with. And I also got a sweet deal. $10 a month for 100 minutes. It is all I need. Again though, I am going to upgrade my gun to the way I want it. I don't really care if you guys think I should get other parts instead, I wanted this thing, so why do you guys really care all that much?

[tonysk83]

Originally posted by llSmithll


how the hell did you do that? ive had mine for 8 months and its as good as the day i bought it. oh, and seal logan, your tring to tell me you paid $7.69 for that rocket cock?

over tightening it, why couldnt they just use metal of some type, personally I like screws on my gun tight, not so loose they are going to fall off in a game

[Caleb98]

dude I'm not gonna start a flame war with you on here...but I could hook you up with a J&J for 20 bucks...anyway


I'd like to see pics of this rear cocking you speak of...

[BMXer]

I know, I know, I hope I can get some pics.

[Caleb98]

Originally posted by SEALLogan


If I could get a JnJ for $15, that would be awesome and I would jump right on it.

I can hook you up with a like new one for 20 bucks...
lemme know if you interested.

[SEALLogan]

If it makes you all happy I just got a new barrel. JnJ Ceramic 14" for $15.50. Yep, same friend.

[Caleb98]

dude can he hook me up with a teardrop??????

you got his email??????

[SEALLogan]

Sorry, but the guy that my guy gets his stuff through dropped SP cuz of their patent lawsuit thingy.

[Caleb98]

what about a GTA expansion chamber could I get that?

[BMXer]

Hey guys, I'm interested in some of this stuff also; can you get me a 98c?

[SEALLogan]

Yeah, thats it guys. I come in here state my opinion, get flammed, then you guys want to use me to get cheap parts....forget it.

[BMXer]

LOL, I was just joking about you getting me a 98c; I already have a 98c. I haven't flamed you unless you've said something that offended me. You can't expect to make a remark about someone and not get a response. Anyway, back to the topic, the rear cocking works great, the RVA needs a little more work on it, and side cover isn't working as well as it was originally, because the wood has changed it's shape as it has been took on and of so many time.

[Caleb98]

I need-


pics,pics,pics,pics,pics,pics
of this rear cocking

oh and sealLogan the only reason I said that stuff was because you offended me...

[BMXer]

If you want, I can post the instructions on how to do this mod, and you can get everyone else pics of this mod.

[Caleb98]

gotta decline...no digi camera and I broke the scanner...:(

[Turambar]

Well folks, this thread has been off topic for two pages. And it seems that the homemade rear cocking has been dealt with. Closed.