The tank perfect for the Impulse.

[impulseben]

Temporarily, I'll be using a flatline on my Impulse, but since that's not big enough, I'm deciding on a 90ci 4500 nitro duck mega-reg for 400, or an 88ci 4500 sp maxflo, for 440. Which is the better tank and deal?

Please don't move this to air systems mod.

[ds613]

I don't know but I'm wondering: Why do you want a big tank?

I would go with the Nitro duck and then you basically get both since you have a maxflo reg.

[impulseben]

i'm a back player, and big isn't a problem to much, seeing as how i'm tall and have long arms/legs. But those nitro duck tanks are so frickin light it feels like any 45 or 68 tank.

I really wanna carry alot of air on the field, and back players have to, so that's why i'm getting a bigger size tank, but it's not huge like the 114. ;)

[impulseben]

[I would go with the Nitro duck and then you basically get both since you have a maxflo reg. [/B][/QUOTE]

i actually don't use the maxflo anymore, I'm using the gladiator reg...don't ask why, i've done all the research I needed to.

[ds613]

Cool,but i don't really know which tank would be best. I don't know that much about nitro tanks.:)

[impulseben]

ahight that's coo, but if anyone else would offer some input that'd be appreciated

[bbqchicken8]

i think co2 runs just fine on the imp but if you like air, get the sp 4500 max flow

[FOM]

I would get the Maxflo 88/4500. the resion is that you can get rid of the secondary reg and run it stright in to the gun. We do this on all of our turny guns now. it saves weight and we honestly feel we get better preformance. the Angels on the team all have the the insides guted from their regs (and the little vent hole tapped, and pluged). The Impulses are all running the Max flo direct too.

The resion you can do this on a max flo is that the maxflo is the only comensating reg in paintball. they will give you consistent results from 4500 psi ringt down to 300 psi.

If you want to use the secondary reg anyway, then be sure to get a HIGH PRESSURE Maxflo. The other tank we run on many of our guns are the Center Flag tanks. Both of these tanks are top of the line. Unless you are choosing to only buy local (to support your local store?) you may be aboe to get those tanks for a fair amount less.

FOM

[CRUCIATUS]

so it would be a bad idea to run the regular max flo reg, and a adjustable tank? Why would you use a adjustable max flo tank, and not a max flo reg? What would the adv and disadv of both situations?

[impulseben]

but i read that the nitro duck mega reg is the highest and most consistent reg in paintball today. I also read that it will give you the exact amount of psi, every time, at any tank pressure. Does the maxflo also do this?

what about the macdev conquest?

[BetaBoy]

FOM, is the tank you mentioned above steel or fiber wrapped? Also, what are you thoughts on fiber wrapped tanks? Aren't they much lighter?

Also, is it hard to install anti-siphon into 2 year old 20 oz CO2 tank? How much would it cost?

Thanks

[FOM]

All of the top quality tanks are fibre wraped. the only steel tanks i have are the inexpensive tanks.

The Nitro duck is not a compasating reg. in stead it is a two stage reg. becasue they don't have a way to make the reg self comsating, they basicly have one reg that brings the pressure down for 4500 to a set pressure (I think its around 1000 but I'm not certain) then a second reg to that spablized pressure down to the pressure you adjust.

We like to run a single reg to get rid of the extra weight. While I don't have any way to prove it, we also feel we get better preformance. To us, the pressure from shot to shot is not an important figure, the difference between "shoot on" at 4500 psi and "shoot off" at a much lower pressure is. The Maxflo is the only reg in paintball that is designed to comsate for this.

IF you decide to keep the stock reg on the Impulse, you what to get a HIGHT PRESSURE Maxflo (as opposed to the Maxflo for the impulse/shocker) This is because you would like to have an input pressure into the stock Impulse reg of at least 500psi so the reg can fuction corectly. The maxfo for the impulse/shocker is designed to run in the 100-200 psi range.

[Havok]

Hey FOM, the impulse and the shocker, I was told are low pressure. If you start using a preset nitro tank of 600psi to 850psi or anything over 300psi, you are going to start blowing internals aren't you?? The impulse and shocker I was told run about 150 to 300 psi. I was told that my preset bulldog, would not be advised to use it on an impulse cause of that reason.

let me know what you think.

[impulseben]

you can have a preset tank that's set pressure is 800 or 850, whaterever it is, as long as you let that air go through your maxflo regulator. The maxflo regulator lowers the pressure down between 0 and 300 psi. You then set the pressure (b/t 140-180) on the reg. Other regs like the mac dev I have, canot take a preset tank set over 500 psi. For regs like that, you have to have an adjustable tank and put in about 400 psi into them to work proparly. But the maxflo is just fine with any preset. And your maxflo reg will lower your input pressure for you.

[Havok]

impulseben, are you serious, do you have to do that o-ring trick thing. My preset doesn't have an on/off or anything. I have a bulldog preset tank. I was told by everyone that cause it is preset that the pressure would be to much and you would start blowing internals. Would it not reck the max flo reg?? Do I have to put a high pressure spring in the max flo or anything. Cause everyone else that I have talked to says that you can't do the preset. Is there any tricks in using a preset or precautions that I should know about??

[wolverine]

Havok - it seems that the people you have been talking to have provided you incorrect informaton. I have been using a 90/4500 Nitro Duck preset on my Impulse since I got it.

Yes you can use a pre-set tank on an Impulse and here is how:

1. Put an extra tank o-ring in the ASA. This is because the pin in the Smart Parts manafold is a little longer than most ASAs and will engage the tank before the tank seals, thus air leaks out. The extra o-ring allows things to seal and not leak. The newer manafolds do not require this "o-ring trick" so you might be able to skip this step depending on the serial # of your Impulse.

2. Before screwing in your tank, lower your operating pressure. This is to prevent shocking the solinoid (blowing it out). I have found that about 2 full turns (5 twists for me) lowers the operating pressure to under 100PSI.

3. Screw in your tank slowly. This is just an extra precaution to prevent shocking the solinoid.

4. Once the tank is on the gun, fire slowly as you increase your operating pressure. Then get to a chrono and adjust for your liking.

I have been using this technique with my Impulse from day one. For the record day one was some time in June of 2000 so it's been well over a year without a problem.

Hope this helps!!

[Havok]

Thanks Wolverine, for the timely info. I almost sold my preset under the impression that I would not be able to use it on my new impulse. Do you by chance know what serial number the new maxflo pins are on?? The impulse I am getting is #5122. Do you have to put a new o-ring every time you put the tank on. So you have to shoot as you are raising the pressure?? Would it be bad if I turned the pressure to low before I put the tank on?? Let me know

THanks

PS. Wolverine, would you mind if I got your email in case I have any other questions?? Thanks

[impulseben]

Havoc, you don't have to get a new oring everytime you screw your tank in, you just put the oring in there, slowly screw your tank on until you feel the tank hit the pin, then screw it in fast really quick for it to seal well. Then when you take the tank off, REMEMBER the oring and catch it when it falls out, try not to get it dirty, if you keep it clean you shouldn't have to replace for a while.

When you screw the tank in, (i never lowered the pressure before screwing the tank in) just turn the maxflo cap to the left (decrease) right (increase) [hope that's right], and set it to about 160. you dont' have to fire the gun while your turning the reg, you'll here it kinda vent some air.

[wolverine]

Do you by chance know what serial number the new maxflo pins are on?? The way Smart Parts builds stuff there is a window where you might get the new parts or you might get the old parts. With a Serial # of 5122 I'm guessing old but ya never know.

Do you have to put a new o-ring every time you put the tank on. Nope like impulseben said just remember to catch it and keep it clean.

So you have to shoot as you are raising the pressure?? You do not have too, but I recomend it.

Would it be bad if I turned the pressure to low before I put the tank on?? Nope, just do not unscrew the cap all the way.

PS. Wolverine, would you mind if I got your email in case I have any other questions?? not a problem chris@kamworld.net or catch me on AIM ckam69

[Richy_C]

Conquest, i think its liike the best tank ever.

[impulseben]

I just ordered a used PMS N.D minireg III in perfect condition. Can ya'll tell me if these systems would be nice on the impulse?